Drempels:
If I valued him as a friend, I wouldn’t do it
It’s ok spending time with a friend for a few hours while socialising, but much like sharing a room while on holiday, double manning with a mate will soon put a strain on you friendship
One of mine recommended a friend of his five years ago, and they crew together as above, about 75% of the time. They also share a flat when they are down in the Southern depot! It can work, but it really is down to personality.
I also have a married crew work for me and he’s been here 27 years and she’s nearly at 21 years. Frankly I’d have killed Mr A if I had to work with him that much, but it seems to suit them and they don’t fall out that I’m aware of.
Drempels:
If I valued him as a friend, I wouldn’t do it
It’s ok spending time with a friend for a few hours while socialising, but much like sharing a room while on holiday, double manning with a mate will soon put a strain on you friendship
One of mine recommended a friend of his five years ago, and they crew together as above, about 75% of the time. They also share a flat when they are down in the Southern depot! It can work, but it really is down to personality.
I also have a married crew work for me and he’s been here 27 years and she’s nearly at 21 years. Frankly I’d have killed Mr A if I had to work with him that much, but it seems to suit them and they don’t fall out that I’m aware of.
That does sound quite ■■■■■■■■.
In this instance it’s someone I became friends with doing local coal and gas deliveries with back when we were on 7.5 tonners. So I know I can work with him and we won’t fall out over daft things.
My fear is, as noted above, that you could be paired up with someone and even the slightest clash of personality could make it a nightmare, especially as I’m used to (and perfectly happy) working alone.
I think Telt, that’s the difference between double manning for hours and because the load requires two drivers.
In some ways we aren’t choosy, hit a bridge, rolled it over, New pass, I don’t see those as a problem. Come in with an attitude, gobby, know it all, abrasive and if you bypass my bs detector, then within 6 months they are out of the door. With someone like Dominos, chances are you are just a bum on a seat so they aren’t bothered and pair you with anyone.
Drempels:
If I valued him as a friend, I wouldn’t do it
It’s ok spending time with a friend for a few hours while socialising, but much like sharing a room while on holiday, double manning with a mate will soon put a strain on you friendship
One of mine recommended a friend of his five years ago, and they crew together as above, about 75% of the time. They also share a flat when they are down in the Southern depot! It can work, but it really is down to personality.
I also have a married crew work for me and he’s been here 27 years and she’s nearly at 21 years. Frankly I’d have killed Mr A if I had to work with him that much, but it seems to suit them and they don’t fall out that I’m aware of.
That does sound quite ■■■■■■■■.
In this instance it’s someone I became friends with doing local coal and gas deliveries with back when we were on 7.5 tonners. So I know I can work with him and we won’t fall out over daft things.
My fear is, as noted above, that you could be paired up with someone and even the slightest clash of personality could make it a nightmare, especially as I’m used to (and perfectly happy) working alone.
One thing nipping around in a 7.5 during the day (I did it for a few years with high-value stuff) knowing you’re going home at the end of your shift, very different getting up after a bad kip because Bert has been ■■■■■■■ all night and waking you up with the sound of his arse cheeks slapping together, not to mention the post-flatus satisfied moan… Then you notice that your ■■■■■ smell like Bert’s, you know why? Cos you’ve been ingesting them, baby! Bert’s ringpiece-DNA has made its way through your body and you know it.
Now you’ve got another day or week of the same thing. Night after night of Eau de Bert…
To cut it short, you’ve gotta ask yourself “do I want to sleep with this man?”
Drempels:
One thing nipping around in a 7.5 during the day (I did it for a few years with high-value stuff) knowing you’re going home at the end of your shift, very different getting up after a bad kip because Bert has been ■■■■■■■ all night and waking you up with the sound of his arse cheeks slapping together, not to mention the post-flatus satisfied moan… Then you notice that your ■■■■■ smell like Bert’s, you know why? Cos you’ve been ingesting them, baby! Bert’s ringpiece-DNA has made its way through your body and you know it.
Now you’ve got another day or week of the same thing. Night after night of Eau de Bert…
To cut it short, you’ve gotta ask yourself “do I want to sleep with this man?”
The above is the reasons why you blokes should be thankful your wives stay with you
Drempels:
One thing nipping around in a 7.5 during the day (I did it for a few years with high-value stuff) knowing you’re going home at the end of your shift, very different getting up after a bad kip because Bert has been ■■■■■■■ all night and waking you up with the sound of his arse cheeks slapping together, not to mention the post-flatus satisfied moan… Then you notice that your ■■■■■ smell like Bert’s, you know why? Cos you’ve been ingesting them, baby! Bert’s ringpiece-DNA has made its way through your body and you know it.
Now you’ve got another day or week of the same thing. Night after night of Eau de Bert…
To cut it short, you’ve gotta ask yourself “do I want to sleep with this man?”
The above is the reasons why you blokes should be thankful your wives stay with you
Drempels:
One thing nipping around in a 7.5 during the day (I did it for a few years with high-value stuff) knowing you’re going home at the end of your shift, very different getting up after a bad kip because Bert has been ■■■■■■■ all night and waking you up with the sound of his arse cheeks slapping together, not to mention the post-flatus satisfied moan… Then you notice that your ■■■■■ smell like Bert’s, you know why? Cos you’ve been ingesting them, baby! Bert’s ringpiece-DNA has made its way through your body and you know it.
Now you’ve got another day or week of the same thing. Night after night of Eau de Bert…
To cut it short, you’ve gotta ask yourself “do I want to sleep with this man?”
The above is the reasons why you blokes should be thankful your wives stay with you
That genuinely made me lol!!! Mostly because it’s true!
albion:
With someone like Dominos, chances are you are just a bum on a seat so they aren’t bothered and pair you with anyone.
With the greatest respect to Albion, bums on seats don’t last 5 minutes at dominos.
Handballing a 40ft fridge over 10 drops, opening stores, checking orders, you need a head on your shoulders and a good rapport with your buddy to get it done smoothly and safely.
Also some nifty driving skills required to get to the stores, mostly tight high streets with bad access, not a yard or loading bay in sight.
It’s hard work but often done in 8 hours but always paid for 12, and it keeps you out the gym and the heart attack ward as your bum spends little time on the seat.
They also leave you to it, not rushed or pushed, never had a call from the office yet. And they have some of the best pay and conditions I have seen in the industry
To be honest Drempels given that I have a two month old baby at home if all I had to interrupt my sleep at night were Bert’s ■■■■■ I’d probably take that tbqhwy.
Whilst I do see what you’re saying I was thinking more along the lines of packing the big hours in and kipping in the passenger seat most of the time so if there was a situation where we stayed out for the 30 hours and had to sleep simultaneously I’d imagine the tiredness would win out.
Telt:
To be honest Drempels given that I have a two month old baby at home if all I had to interrupt my sleep at night were Bert’s ■■■■■ I’d probably take that tbqhwy.
Whilst I do see what you’re saying I was thinking more along the lines of packing the big hours in and kipping in the passenger seat most of the time so if there was a situation where we stayed out for the 30 hours and had to sleep simultaneously I’d imagine the tiredness would win out.
Ha, I’m with you on that! Whoever coined the phrase “sleeping like a baby” must have had very quiet ones!
albion:
I was using Dominos as someone mentioned them earlier, I don’t know any Dominos drivers.
Substitute for any company that aren’t too bothered if the crew are going to work together.
I shouldve been clearer in the OP tbf. I was thinking about this more along the lines of “can we run for big hours and earn more money in less time?” rather than delivery work which requires two men.
I suppose the best way to find out is to enquire with agencies about what’s available. If anything grabs us we could try it and if it goes well look to get on it full time.
trevHCS:
Double manning seems to be split into 2 types.
Jobs which require 2 people like furniture delivery which dont always need two drivers. Very hard work but hours are within the 13 / 15 hours.
Jobs where you run on the true double manning like Sports Direct and can run for (from memory) 30 hours between you. Usually very good money but not good if you cant sleep sitting up. Can sometimes be nights out but thats mostly Euro.
Personally I wouldn’t do it again although only done the first one on agency. Luckily had decent people to drive with, but only takes one to be an ahole, stink, smoker, hates your driving etc to make it horrific.
Personally I don’t think you’ll make anymore doing the first one and they are often low paid. Know one place on class 2 was on £8 hour doing furniture and that wasn’t unusual. Crap for 15 hour days.
Shifts - same as you can get on other jobs.
Money - varies just like other jobs. No more for double manning unless doing those stupid 30 hour shifts sonce you’re paid for the whole time.
Definitely 21 hours doublemanned. Done quite a bit of it, usually ok but you do sometimes get stuck with an undesirable. As for Sports Direct they only run out of the one depot near Mansfield. They have trampers up Scotland but they’re all single manned.
biggriffin:
Domino’s do double Manning, max hours, £35-£40k a year.
Are they in Scotland or is it done from Penrith? As that’s a bit much of a trek tbh.
Penrith is closing imminently. All northern England to be covered from Warrington.
Scotland is subbed out to a courier up there, not sure who.
And it’s 48 hours basic for that wage. Overtime available on top of that. Good shift pattern aswell with 5 days off every 3 weeks
Dominos do have a place in Scotland. It’s Chilterns and they are based in Nisa’s RDC in Livingston.
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No they don’t. Chilterns do, and dominos sub the Scottish delivery work out to them.
All of England and Wales is own account and from next month is covered from only two bases in Milton Keynes and Warrington
Class 1 at Dominos is the holy grail.
I’ve worked with a couple of agency that have been there and it’s literally dead mans shoes.
Well, it used to be, allegedly MMTM the wage structure was altered to stop the drivers turning up in better cars than the managers and directors.
Even the class 2 is really good money, but it’s really hard work.
I have done a fair bit of double manning . Mainly Europe and max hours to get stuff to or from the destination on time .
It works really well if you are paired with a compatible other driver , it soon gets tense if you don’t see eye to eye with the person in the other seat . If you regard the cab as your own personal space then having another person in very close proximity for up to a week or more could be a problem.
I have only had one trip with another driver for a couple of days that I certainly wouldn’t care to repeat . Even very minor delays or problems got him huffing and puffing and he was very poor at decision making and following instructions .
Having a mobile karaoke at 3am on the Brenner Pass was one of the better trips with someone that has become a firm friend . We have been all over the UK, Ireland and Europe together and have freely swapped knowledge and experience.
It can get very tiring doing several 21 hour stints on the trot , but the money racks up quickly if it’s hourly paid at a decent rate .
Do you trust the other driver enough to hit the bunk while he does a driving stint ?
Or do you have to watch him like a hawk ?
grumpyken52:
I have done a fair bit of double manning . Mainly Europe and max hours to get stuff to or from the destination on time .
It works really well if you are paired with a compatible other driver , it soon gets tense if you don’t see eye to eye with the person in the other seat . If you regard the cab as your own personal space then having another person in very close proximity for up to a week or more could be a problem.
I have only had one trip with another driver for a couple of days that I certainly wouldn’t care to repeat . Even very minor delays or problems got him huffing and puffing and he was very poor at decision making and following instructions .
Having a mobile karaoke at 3am on the Brenner Pass was one of the better trips with someone that has become a firm friend . We have been all over the UK, Ireland and Europe together and have freely swapped knowledge and experience.
It can get very tiring doing several 21 hour stints on the trot , but the money racks up quickly if it’s hourly paid at a decent rate .
Do you trust the other driver enough to hit the bunk while he does a driving stint ?
Or do you have to watch him like a hawk ?
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Thanks for this mate. Yes, I trust his driving fine.
Do you know of any firms that can be approached for this type of work?
