Don't pull the pin!

UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUMS THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE)
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Dolph:
:lol: :laughing: :laughing: thats a hilarious, no seriously, in order for the trailer to go the parking brake had not been applied

To be fair it also meant that the lines were all still attached especially the red one. :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing:

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Carryfast:

Dolph:
:lol: :laughing: :laughing: thats a hilarious, no seriously, in order for the trailer to go the parking brake had not been applied

To be fair it also meant that the lines were all still attached especially the red one. :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing:

That one as well :laughing:
Is it possible someone else pulled the pin?
I had a crime committed against me and the vehicle I drove years ago. The repair cost $2500(USD) to my boss and 3 days in the shop, Christmas I’ll never forget :grimacing:
A former employee of the company I drove for back in the day saw me in California and put sugar in one of my fuel tanks while I was in the truck stop facility. :imp:

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war1974:
it was always drilled into me by my old man legs down first then the rest.

having said this this is why DHL and the likes now have a uniformed way to drop and pick up trailers. a lot of guys moan about it but things like this show why its necessary.

Thats how i always work, if the legs are down on a level surface is can’t go that wrong.

As for DHL they had these things fitted as they didn’t like split coupling/un-coupling. I thought it was a novelty tbh. Just to add clearly this guy in the picture is pretending to have WAY to much fun :laughing:

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asda used to have trailers with a similar thing but not quite that extreme.

how white is his shirt by the way!

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mac12:
Things like this should not happen but everyone makes mistakes, Radar could have got hit but who in there right mind would stand undoing curtains when a truck is backing into you I would stand to the side even when someone is backing down the side such as on a bay.
The thing I think is wrong is Radar coming on here with photos telling everyone what’s happening at the company he’s working at, the driver needs dealing with but it’s not a case for the HSE.
This week Radar has told us his run and how much fuel is wasted and now this if I was his boss it would be him who I would be having a word with, some companies have in there contracts that you cannot tell things about the company.

He wasn’t reversing, he was dropping the trailer. It is a case for HSE because our yard is getting dangerous now. Too much traffic in too small of a space. What if my truck hadn’t of been there and it had rolled down and hit one of the trailers on the bay’s with a warehouse man inside? The office know how busy it gets yet it’s been getting worse for the last few months. The driver in question doesn’t work for us, but for a subcontractor.

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Own Account Driver:
It’s things like this that are the reason I don’t like the DVSA load security nonsense. Not because I’m lazy and anti-safety but because being round the sides of the vehicle in a yard, particularly a busy one, the risk of getting hit by another vehicle is very high and in many cases is putting drivers’ safety at an unnecessary risk to secure loads that are no risk of harming anyone.

Yet an unsecured load can kill someone you’re next to on a roundabout or in fact kill you if you have to brake hard. If those “secure” loads are at no risk of harming anyone then why do they prosecute you for not securing it properly?

Take the chipboard I carry. Chipboard is a live load and slides around like a sod if not secured properly. If I secured it the same way as pretty much every single driver does on Hull docks and drove it down the back roads around the A1 Leeming Bar to Scotch Corner closure the way that we do on a night time it would be hanging out of the curtains literally no more than a couple of miles south of Darlington. Because we secure ours properly which literally involves using two and a half times more straps than they’d use on Hull docks, you could drive like a complete lunatic and the load wouldn’t shift. Usually the drivers you see crawling down the A167 from Darlington to Northallerton on a night are those who know they didn’t strap their load down properly.

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I uncouple exactly how I was taught in my test very simple and safe
B-brake
L-legs
A-airlines
C-clip
K-kingpin

And obviously reverse for coupling… Simples

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Bluey Circles:
that’s what the susies are for, if they are cut to the correct length they should stop the trailer leaving the back of the tractor, coiled into a spring shape they stop any shock load on the unit and dynamically bring the trailer to a controlled stop… belt and braces.

You’d never be able to turn anything more than a slight corner. You’d certainly not be able to do a tight 90 degree turn.

And as the suzies are only held on to the fittings by a compression fit for the air lines and a cable grip for the electrics then how do either of those prevent 36 tonnes of trailer from moving?

They’re coiled into a spring shape so you don’t have 10ft of suzie dangling in the propshaft when you’re going in a straight line.

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[zb]ing grim that Radar!

As others have said, that needs reporting as a very serious near miss. Is the driver one of yours?

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Bluey Circles:
that’s what the susies are for, if they are cut to the correct length they should stop the trailer leaving the back of the tractor…

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I was always taught before you do anything

BREAKS

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Thought you had do some work before you took a break Nick?

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Conor:

Bluey Circles:
that’s what the susies are for, if they are cut to the correct length they should stop the trailer leaving the back of the tractor, coiled into a spring shape they stop any shock load on the unit and dynamically bring the trailer to a controlled stop… belt and braces.

You’d never be able to turn anything more than a slight corner. You’d certainly not be able to do a tight 90 degree turn.

And as the suzies are only held on to the fittings by a compression fit for the air lines and a cable grip for the electrics then how do either of those prevent 36 tonnes of trailer from moving?

They’re coiled into a spring shape so you don’t have 10ft of suzie dangling in the propshaft when you’re going in a straight line.

I think He might of been thinking, that if the Red line was to snap before the trailer dropped of the lead up ramps, then the brakes would activate, and the trailer be halted, a nice idea, but for the reasons Conor has stated, totally impractical :wink:

PS cutting a suzzie away from a prop shaft, is an experience you will only do once :blush:

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Conor:

Own Account Driver:
It’s things like this that are the reason I don’t like the DVSA load security nonsense. Not because I’m lazy and anti-safety but because being round the sides of the vehicle in a yard, particularly a busy one, the risk of getting hit by another vehicle is very high and in many cases is putting drivers’ safety at an unnecessary risk to secure loads that are no risk of harming anyone.

Yet an unsecured load can kill someone you’re next to on a roundabout or in fact kill you if you have to brake hard. If those “secure” loads are at no risk of harming anyone then why do they prosecute you for not securing it properly?

Take the chipboard I carry. Chipboard is a live load and slides around like a sod if not secured properly. If I secured it the same way as pretty much every single driver does on Hull docks and drove it down the back roads around the A1 Leeming Bar to Scotch Corner closure the way that we do on a night time it would be hanging out of the curtains literally no more than a couple of miles south of Darlington. Because we secure ours properly which literally involves using two and a half times more straps than they’d use on Hull docks, you could drive like a complete lunatic and the load wouldn’t shift. Usually the drivers you see crawling down the A167 from Darlington to Northallerton on a night are those who know they didn’t strap their load down properly.

Jesus Conor, that’s a leap, even for you. OAD was referring to “loads that won’t harm anyone”. Not a curtainsider full of ■■■■■■■ kitchen worktops and chipboard… Your post has got about as much bearing on the topic as a load of male cows seed.

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eagerbeaver:
Thought you had do some work before you took a break Nick?

No that’s for driving hours :wink:just done pre check +4 mins drive now having a 15 :grimacing:

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eddie snax:
PS cutting a suzzie away from a prop shaft, is an experience you will only do once :blush:

Try all of them electrics and air having been snagged in a domino effect.Causing a stuck wagon on the single carriageway road from Sheerness docks early on a dark winter morning with no spares and having to wait for a garage call out to arrive to fix it.( Not exactly DAF aid response time either ). :smiling_imp: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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Radar19:
… This class A cabbage had decided to pull the pin before dropping the legs

I think you mean Class 1 cabbage :wink:

What a careless twonk but ■■■■ happens to all of us and none of us are immune from making stupid mistakes, at least no one was hurt and hopefully lessons were learned!

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Handbrake was mentioned earlier on and was the first thing i always did before cranking the legs down but knew plenty of drivers at our yard who would never bother… always in too much of a hurry or bone idle lazy to do such a simple task…

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Conor:

Bluey Circles:
that’s what the susies are for, if they are cut to the correct length they should stop the trailer leaving the back of the tractor, coiled into a spring shape they stop any shock load on the unit and dynamically bring the trailer to a controlled stop… belt and braces.

You’d never be able to turn anything more than a slight corner. You’d certainly not be able to do a tight 90 degree turn.

And as the suzies are only held on to the fittings by a compression fit for the air lines and a cable grip for the electrics then how do either of those prevent 36 tonnes of trailer from moving?

They’re coiled into a spring shape so you don’t have 10ft of suzie dangling in the propshaft when you’re going in a straight line.

thanks for that, I always thought they were safety lines. LOL

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Carryfast:

eddie snax:
PS cutting a suzzie away from a prop shaft, is an experience you will only do once :blush:

Try all of them electrics and air having been snagged in a domino effect.Causing a stuck wagon on the single carriageway road from Sheerness docks early on a dark winter morning with no spares and having to wait for a garage call out to arrive to fix it.( Not exactly DAF aid response time either ). :smiling_imp: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I’ll take a rain check on that, if its all the same with you :wink: .

My experience that I hope never to repeat, was on the Norfolk Line dock at Great Yarmouth, all those years ago, after managing to rip an air line off, whilst moving between drop and pick up of trailers. Our fitter nipped round from the yard, fitted the new line, I pointed to the unsightly mess wrapped around the Prop, he said “there’s plenty of tools on the Van, you put it there you get it off” :unamused: