Don't bother with the maths!

good for him…anyone that’s ever worked for me who mentioned unions,was a spokesman for “the lads” or was the usual dung stirrer was the 1st one out the door,whether they knew it or not,as soon as they opened their mouth they were on borrowed time .who needs the greif of listening to some sweetie wife bleating…if you don’t like the job,work somewhere else.dont moan about the job your in…just leave.
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God help us all. We’re back in Victorian times with you. :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

Drivers who in work places with a strong union representation, generally have better terms & conditions than those in non unionised places. This is a fact. Obviously, some places have better union representation than others.

Amount of drivers at our place that won’t join the union, but will happily pocket the yearly pay increments, overtime rates and premiums which are fought for and defended by the union reps year on year.

What I don’t like about unions is the ‘getting people off the hook’ side of it, making it a nightmare for firms to relieve themselves of deadwood.

rob22888:
Drivers who in work places with a strong union representation, generally have better terms & conditions than those in non unionised places. This is a fact. Obviously, some places have better union representation than others.

Amount of drivers at our place that won’t join the union, but will happily pocket the yearly pay increments, overtime rates and premiums which are fought for and defended by the union reps year on year.

What I don’t like about unions is the ‘getting people off the hook’ side of it, making it a nightmare for firms to relieve themselves of deadwood.

+1.

Those who trouser the benefits (and moan endlessly about it not being good enough) without doing their bit, at the very least paying their dues, really annoy me…and they’re almost always the ones who pull strokes (don’t appreciate what they have and take the ■■■■) getting themselves into trouble and then expect the union to support them.

Unionised jobs have prevented the race reaching the very bottom, the gradual loss of drivers to those increasingly few premium jobs helping to keep the non unionised just above slavery level.

isnt the whole point of a unuion Rep to represent the whole workforce? not go for tea and cake with management and screw over the workforce?

i have seen a strong union when on agency at royal mail and having grown up in the north east also seen the downside of lets walk out for anythign and everything, notice not much shipbuilding happens on the tyne now.

unions - higher pay and longer holidays (this is more liekly than not due to the workforce having been in positions longer than non unionised outfits).

and having been in disciplinaries where i have had to ask the union rep to leave and stop representing me i will never rejoin one.

rob22888:
Amount of drivers at our place that won’t join the union, but will happily pocket the yearly pay increments, overtime rates and premiums which are fought for and defended by the union reps year on year.

When I worked at a Unionised place this was what always used to rile the eff out of me. Those who were the non-union types were always the biggest moaners about pay and everything else, but the one time a strike did happen they worked through it and then quite happily picked up the pay rise just the same as everybody who had been out…! Lowest of the low.