Do you brick it on tight turns?

yourhavingalarf:

Franglais:
If the road is impassable for artics put up a sign with a length limit. Job done.

In the same…

Way that bridge height limit signs stop bridges from being hit?

But they’d get hit a lot more often if there were no warning signs.

jakethesnake:

Carryfast:

jakethesnake:
Just backs up my theory how some drivers don’t check their mirrors when they should. I mean how could you not see a house in a mirror?. :unamused:

Probably because it’s an artic and all he’d see in the mirrors when it was turning with the unit at an angle to the trailer would be across the front of the load deck and the wall of the house on the opposite side of the road to one he hit.Or a mirror full of trailer side if it was a box trailer.Part of the ‘fun’ of driving artics is knowing that it ain’t going to make the turn before you start it.

Fair enough, I never even looked at the link however after looking he was turning right so when he lost the trailer in the mirror he could have looked out the window whilst going very slowly and surely seen he was going to hit it. :open_mouth:

As far as your last sentence goes surely if you know you ain’t gonna make it you don’t go or was that only in the good old days. :wink:

I’ve probably lost the plot if he was turning right. :confused: I though he was turning left and had taken out the house on the left with the cut in and what we’re seeing is the truck after he’d aborted the turn ?.

Or was he turning right and hit it with the tail sweep ? in which case surely there’s no way he could have got far enough out to catch it with the nearside rear overhang ?.

Yes there seems to be ‘issues’ with many drivers being unable to weigh up a situation and saying to themselves that ain’t going to work and then going for banzai moves.

Franglais:
Seeing impossible turns at a glance only comes with time.

:open_mouth:

If that’s the case expect to see a lot more houses in the firing line. :laughing: I think your expectations of even the newest driver with an artic or even a 4 wheeler rigid in his hands just might be a bit short in that case.

yourhavingalarf:

jakethesnake:
Exactly what I was saying the other week but told I was talking crap by a certain DD999. He must be one that can’t tell. :unamused:

Oh…

Grow up child.

^^^^^^^
+1
i dont think il bother biting,
theres just no fun when its too blatant and easy
note to jts. must try harder.

jakethesnake:
Whilst I agree with 99% of what you say Franglais it ain’t always the case. I have seen many older drivers make a complete hash of things over the years. I sometimes think younger drivers get more stick than they deserve on here. There are definitely good and bad amongst both. However in this case what I can’t understand is why the driver did not stop before hitting the house. Surely in a tight situation you move very slowly and observe and Stop before hitting then back off. Anything but hit a house. :unamused:

I’m not saying that newly passed drivers today are any worse than we were.
But I reckon most of us, and them learn from experience. Certainly hope so!
A new pass won’t see a tight corner through the same eyes we do. Not blaming anyone, just pointing out that we all learn all the time.
And you’re correct that aging doesn’t a bad driver onto a good 'un. Good and bad of all ages.

Franglais:

jakethesnake:
Whilst I agree with 99% of what you say Franglais it ain’t always the case. I have seen many older drivers make a complete hash of things over the years. I sometimes think younger drivers get more stick than they deserve on here. There are definitely good and bad amongst both. However in this case what I can’t understand is why the driver did not stop before hitting the house. Surely in a tight situation you move very slowly and observe and Stop before hitting then back off. Anything but hit a house. :unamused:

I’m not saying that newly passed drivers today are any worse than we were.
But I reckon most of us, and them learn from experience. Certainly hope so!
A new pass won’t see a tight corner through the same eyes we do. Not blaming anyone, just pointing out that we all learn all the time.
And you’re correct that aging doesn’t a bad driver onto a good 'un. Good and bad of all ages.

Yep fair enough. Nice to communicate with someone who can actually post and discuss in an adult fashion. This forum reminds me of the roads back home. Plenty good drivers but the odd idiot keeps popping up. :laughing:

Franglais:

Heavy-metal-Hodge:
Call me daft but if “it’s not the first time a lorry has hit the wall”…
put a sign up!

If the road is impassable for artics put up a sign with a length limit. Job done.

The one way system on the road at the top forces traffic down there. Faced with the same I would probably opt for going down there assuming I could see a way past the parked cars, Right hand turn looked doable.

njl:
This guy did

edp24.co.uk/news/dereham-lo … -1-6299992

Compo face…

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lolipop:

ezydriver:
Probably agency.

Why make assumptions,anything goes amiss and its probably agency.Forgetting some of those guys are not on agency by their own choice,they could have been made redundant, company closed down,relocation could be any number of reasons.Like it happened to me twice in four years,no option at the time other than to go on agency I needed money to live on. Permanent employed Drivers are not always the gods gift to the transport industry,like you seem to think.

And probably on drink and drugs.

Reefie:

njl:
This guy did

edp24.co.uk/news/dereham-lo … -1-6299992

Compo face…

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Yeah mate, got me new pruis on order all ready, me be only Uber driver in da village.

Heres a better view of it

facebook.com/10000070081871 … 89?sfns=mo

Dear me, unbelievable. :unamused:

ArcticMonkey:
Heres a better view of it

facebook.com/10000070081871 … 89?sfns=mo

That is painful viewing.

Credit to MRA they have said the driver was new to c + e and are sticking by him

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ … 1321879114

njl:

ArcticMonkey:
Heres a better view of it

facebook.com/10000070081871 … 89?sfns=mo

That is painful viewing.

Credit to MRA they have said the driver was new to c + e and are sticking by him

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ … 1321879114

^^^^
+1
good for MRA nice to see a company with enough balls not to be influenced by faceache anoraks.
he scudded a wall going round a corner thats been whacked before…no biggy,no kittens or crippled orphans crushed.

The gentleman in the house will probably claim whip lash for his whole extended family

dieseldog999:

njl:

ArcticMonkey:
Heres a better view of it

facebook.com/10000070081871 … 89?sfns=mo

That is painful viewing.

Credit to MRA they have said the driver was new to c + e and are sticking by him

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ … 1321879114

^^^^
+1
good for MRA nice to see a company with enough balls not to be influenced by faceache anoraks.
he scudded a wall going round a corner thats been whacked before…no biggy,no kittens or crippled orphans crushed.

Had a feeling it might be a newbie with the way he ended up across the other side of the street trying to get out.

The training for the test would probably benefit from letting trainees do a lot more real world stuff like finding their own places to turn round and that sort of thing though I know they have changed things a bit on the test but the training itself still leaves new drivers badly prepared for reality.

TheNewBoy:
The gentleman in the house will probably claim whip lash for his whole extended family

Oh, yeah I see cos he’s a ■■■■■■

Brilliant :unamused:

Own Account Driver:
The training for the test would probably benefit from letting trainees do a lot more real world stuff like finding their own places to turn round and that sort of thing though I know they have changed things a bit on the test but the training itself still leaves new drivers badly prepared for reality.

Nail on head.
Test candidates ain’t being taught to drive a truck in real terms, the priority is learning a test route and how to get around it.
This has gone on for years, I myself did not learn to reverse until after I passed my test, I was given a licence and could not reverse for peanuts.

‘‘They’’ would rather prioritise on the derisory drivers cpc and call it ‘‘training’’.

robroy:

Own Account Driver:
The training for the test would probably benefit from letting trainees do a lot more real world stuff like finding their own places to turn round and that sort of thing though I know they have changed things a bit on the test but the training itself still leaves new drivers badly prepared for reality.

Nail on head.
Test candidates ain’t being taught to drive a truck in real terms, the priority is learning a test route and how to get around it.
This has gone on for years, I myself did not learn to reverse until after I passed my test, I was given a licence and could not reverse for peanuts.

‘‘They’’ would rather prioritise on the derisory drivers cpc and call it ‘‘training’’.

But how much training would it take to send a fully formed, ready for anything, driver out alone?
It never was like that, and I doubt it ever will be.
How much time and money is realistic to spend on training? Isn’t the answer always “just a little bit more”?
(Where’s Dipper)

This is a statement from the company on what happened, nice to see them backing a new driver, who made mistakes, I’m sure there are some on here who were born great drivers, but I wasn’t I made a few silly errors, fortunately they didn’t cause that much damage and everyone and their dog didn’t have a mobile phone to publish my errors on social media, however I did work for a supportive family run haulage company who like MRA backed me and helped me.

Following on from recent events we are aware of a video circulating on social media involving one of our vehicles. The incident involved one of our drivers who is new to HGV Driving. Due to inexperience misjudgements were made. However we were told by police at the scene that the same mistake had been made by numerous other drivers in recent times and the house has been hit on many occasions. Indicating that all fault does not lie with the driver. Management has assessed the situation, everyone has to start somewhere and mistakes do happen. The driver is fully supported by everyone at MRA and further training will be given. Due to the nature of the business, unfortunate situations do arise, this is why we have the insurance in place that we do. Our insurance team are working to get all matters resolved. We appreciate people bringing the video to our attention, and thank you for your continued support