Carryfast:
I’ve certainly got the knowledge of at least that example in which the British product was superior to it’s German competition.
That’s why this one is not as fun as the other ones we derailed already… As in this case I don’t know how big is bs that you are giving 
This thread is turning out to be a nonentity.
After a little research it turns out that DAF… for instance…has been using Leyland engines and technology under licence since 1949 until they merged and only recently stopped using said engines. Scania also have been using Leyland technology/engines for many years. So have MAN.
So lads like it or lump it…basically many of you have been driving Brit innovated vehicles for years.
Now who dislikes Brit trucks again■■? 
Solly:
This thread is turning out to be a nonentity.After a little research it turns out that DAF… for instance…has been using Leyland engines and technology under licence since 1949 until they merged and only recently stopped using said engines. Scania also have been using Leyland technology/engines for many years. So have MAN.
So lads like it or lump it…basically many of you have been driving Brit innovated vehicles for years.
Now who dislikes Brit trucks again■■?
So after all its like with japanese car manufacturers? First they had licenses, then they copied it and now they are better?
billybigrig:
Yes, one of my favourite motors was an EC with a ■■■■■■■ in it. Olympic cab was massive, air con, electric everything and a swivel passenger seat with table.
Simple bulletproof and comfortableIf I could have one today I would, especially if it had a proper box and jake.
So assuming you’d prefer it to a Merc that’s England 2 Germany 0 so far. 
Carryfast:
billybigrig:
Yes, one of my favourite motors was an EC with a ■■■■■■■ in it. Olympic cab was massive, air con, electric everything and a swivel passenger seat with table.
Simple bulletproof and comfortableIf I could have one today I would, especially if it had a proper box and jake.
So assuming you’d prefer it to a Merc that’s England 2 Germany 0 so far.
I would indeed. 
Then again I’d prefer a wirewool ■■■■■■■ to a Merc
British built plant has gone the same way; We used to have Hymac, Bray, Wetherill, Powerscreen, Matbro, Priestman, Benford, Ruston Bucyrus, Sanderson…
Hymac went, Priestman and Ruston Bucyrus merged to become RB Int (I think Bucyrus are now Cat owned), Matbro, Bray and Powerscreen are now all dissolved into Terex. JCB is the only success story. Bray loaders had served our lot well but they were heaps of junk in comparisson to the Volvo L series of loaders.
Solly:
This thread is turning out to be a nonentity.After a little research it turns out that DAF… for instance…has been using Leyland engines and technology under licence since 1949 until they merged and only recently stopped using said engines. Scania also have been using Leyland technology/engines for many years. So have MAN.
So lads like it or lump it…basically many of you have been driving Brit innovated vehicles for years.
Now who dislikes Brit trucks again■■?
The DAF 2800 was what the T 45 would/could have been given the type customer base and demands here,that the Dutch had in their domestic market,sooner.
Carryfast:
So assuming you’d prefer it to a Merc that’s England 2 Germany 0 so far.
Only because most of the forum members weren’t spending their youth in Germany. Because Harry is right with this:
Harry Monk:
sammy:
I drive a fairly new XL globetrotter with i-shift but I’d swap it tomorrow if I could for an ERF EC14 Olympic with a eaton twin splitter…now that’s a lorry.No, what you mean is that you would swap the age you are today for the age you were 20 years ago.
orys:
So after all its like with japanese car manufacturers? First they had licenses, then they copied it and now they are better?
Sorry at having to digress further people.
Good morning “orys”.
Yes. Of course “They are better”… because…errr… we…the Brits…thanks to successive Brit governments giving in to international political forces IMO… don’t have anything to compare them with now!!
But! But! We can be certain in the knowledge that because of past and present British engineering and concepts they are still being used and developed today… to make all of them better.
BTW. I believe the Leyland brand is still going strong and has plenty of international influence with other manufacturers.