Sympathy here mate.
Do yernow what, every time i hear of people being advised to engage a solicitor and then follows such advice, who then proceeds (politician/management style) to tell them what they want to hear to get the client on board…kerching…in almost every case the punishment result proves little different than if they hadn’t bothered.
Juddian:
Sympathy here mate.Do yernow what, every time i hear of people being advised to engage a solicitor and then follows such advice, who then proceeds (politician/management style) to tell them what they want to hear to get the client on board…kerching…in almost every case the punishment result proves little different than if they hadn’t bothered.
The 550 quid fine was bad enough, if it had not been for the 6 points on my clean licence,.and for a non driving offence into the bargain, but an even more disproportionate heavier fine instead, I would not have dreamed of getting a solicitor co involved.
I had visions of getting caught on a camera., or something,.maybe unluckily twice in a week knowing my luck, and my licence and livelihood going down the khazi in a One er.
Bummer but a lesson learnt I guess. It’s just not worth the risk sometimes.
I actually feel a little sorry for you Rob.
Parking everywhere now is a problem that needs tackling and not just for trucks. Look at roads now where people have more and more cars and double park etc including on pavements.
And it will only get worse as time goes on.
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Franglais:
stu675:
robroy:
Zac_A:
So this was just for “wheels on the pavement” and not double-yellows or anything else?Yep, no lines, no signs, no restrictions…and I went to the same estate although a different part, and the were cars, presumably employees, parked FULL ON the pavement, presumably the regular ‘done thing.’
Cars are allowed to park on the pavement everywhere except London as long as they are not causing an obstruction.
What is the law about lorries not being allowed on the pavement at all?highwaycodeuk.co.uk/parking.html
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You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.
Law GL(GP)A sect 15
everything in the HC that says should as opposed to must can be ignored because it has no basis in law.
And
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Goods vehicles. Vehicles with a maximum laden weight of over 7.5 tonnes (including any trailer) MUST NOT be parked on a verge, pavement or any land situated between carriageways, without police permission. The only exception is when parking is essential for loading and unloading, in which case the vehicle MUST NOT be left unattended.
Law RTA 1988 sect 19
That’s good to know, thanks, because I do it all the time for loading. (But I am still not over 7.5 yet)
My only real offence was the crime of taking a ■■■■ against my wheel. It cost me £190. FPN.
Local Governments close loads of HGV rest areas. They close loads of public toilets.
Then they go out in force in Industrial estates to catch drivers parking up at night or taking a ■■■■■ against their tyre at 2am.
I really don’t know how they can not just admit it is a pure money making scam.
Although I no longer do nights away, my company has always insisted…actually demanded that we park in either MSA or Truckstops on the company dime. The company view is that for our wellbeing we must have access to toilets and wash facilities even if it shortens our working day to get ourselfs parked properly.
After reading Rob’s experience I am glad I haven’t had to ■■■■ about looking for a spot with time running out.
Feel for you mate, it was a crap sitution to be in and the rozzers took full advantange of an easy pull!
I drive a foreign regtruck and just throw tickets in bin without even looking at them the plod are stupid in the uk
Thanx for posting this Rob, it just reinforces my wish to never return over there. It seems the powers that be simply loath trucks and their drivers. The recent pics of Border Farce handing out halal kebabs to the invading migrants reminded me of how the truckers were treated at Manston last Christmas, it’s become an absolutely shameful place, sad to say.
short walk:
Thanx for posting this Rob, it just reinforces my wish to never return over there. It seems the powers that be simply loath trucks and their drivers. The recent pics of Border Farce handing out halal kebabs to the invading migrants reminded me of how the truckers were treated at Manston last Christmas, it’s become an absolutely shameful place, sad to say.
Yep, totally agree and it’s not just recently either. I can sympathise with Rob too. Going all the way back to about 2005, we were over there and borrowed a car from a mate to get around for five weeks. In London I parked overnight with two wheels on the kerb. The footpath at this particular place was a good 8’ wide. There was a bus stop opposite with cars parked all the way through it and others right on corners… guess who was the only one to get a ticket! The only reason I paid it was because of it being a mates car, or I’d have said ■■■■■■■
Nah, holidays over there, OK, but living there? It’s just turned into a ■■■■’ole for the average people.
robroy:
So thanks to my bad parking decision on my part… and an over zealous [zb] copper ticketing drivers taking their obligatory rest (who are only making the best of a [zb] chronic UK parking situation,) decided to do me, whilst ‘‘patrolling’’ in one the most notorious crime hot spots of the UK (Merseyside) and then to add insult to injury, an incompetent administrative dept in the Police, I am now a lot of [zb] money down, not to mention severely ■■■■■■ off.
Oh look it’s Robroy, our resident law abiding citizen whining again about the police victimising him again . Funny how they’re always over-zealous when it’s you who is on the wrong end of the stick eh Rob?
Conor:
robroy:
So thanks to my bad parking decision on my part… and an over zealous [zb] copper ticketing drivers taking their obligatory rest (who are only making the best of a [zb] chronic UK parking situation,) decided to do me, whilst ‘‘patrolling’’ in one the most notorious crime hot spots of the UK (Merseyside) and then to add insult to injury, an incompetent administrative dept in the Police, I am now a lot of [zb] money down, not to mention severely ■■■■■■ off.Oh look it’s Robroy, our resident law abiding citizen whining again about the police victimising him again . Funny how they’re always over-zealous when it’s you who is on the wrong end of the stick eh Rob?
Oh look it’s Conor, our resident smart arse know it all on another of his charm offensive campaigns… to maintain his vast popularity on Trucknet. 
robroy:
Oh look it’s Conor, our resident smart arse know it all on another of his charm offensive campaigns… to maintain his self perceived vast popularity on Trucknet.
Fixed that for you Robroy.
If it was to happen at any time of the year rob this is it , you’ve Boxing Day , New Year’s Day to earn premium rates ( possibility of even Xmas day ) to cover your financial losses
It’s really a win / win situation , before when you worked it you’d of got abuse from the likes of me for being a greedy so& so , but now you can use this fine as a excuse to be a greedy so&so without the abuse ha ha
Thanks for the name check.
You screwed up… and continued to screw up throughout.
They write to you… and you pled guilty?
Maybe you should have taken some advice?
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Monkey241:
Thanks for the name check.You screwed up… and continued to screw up throughout.
They write to you… and you pled guilty?
Maybe you should have taken some advice?
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Fair comment, but they also screwed up, that was the whole catalyst to it going ■■■■ up, they should have given me the chance to pay the initial fine, they didn’t !
The first correspondence was charging me with an offence of failing to give driver details…that had not been commited imo,as my firm.had gave details already.
I naively thought it would be easier just to go with it by pleading guilty as I could not be arsed with the mountain out of a mole hill type grief.
You would have sworn I had committed a major crime with all the ■■■■ palaver, but that’s coppers for you eh? 
I ■■■■ ed up in that respect basically.
The reason parking of HGVs on footways etc is forbidden in the first place has nothing to do with cash-cow, anti-lorry policies etc, and everything to do with footways and verges (and the utility infrastructure underneath them) is of necessity not constructed with anything like the same robustness as the carriageways.
Unfortunately, even though the original offence of parking on the pavement doesn’t carry with it the additional penalty of endorsement/points, failing to identify the driver does.
Sadly, although you’ve now been fined by the Court and paid out for legal help, you’ll not only have yet another additional cost when it comes to time to renew your insurance next time, you’ll face a similar loading on your premiums for each of the following 4 years as well…
Roymondo:
The reason parking of HGVs on footways etc is forbidden in the first place has nothing to do with cash-cow, anti-lorry policies etc, and everything to do with footways and verges (and the utility infrastructure underneath them) is of necessity not constructed with anything like the same robustness as the carriageways.Unfortunately, even though the original offence of parking on the pavement doesn’t carry with it the additional penalty of endorsement/points, failing to identify the driver does.
Sadly, although you’ve now been fined by the Court and paid out for legal help, you’ll not only have yet another additional cost when it comes to time to renew your insurance next time, you’ll face a similar loading on your premiums for each of the following 4 years as well…
Coppers also respond to local pressures.
I find a good way not to get fined is not to break the law… and if I do…[emoji6]
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Roymondo:
The reason parking of HGVs on footways etc is forbidden in the first place has nothing to do with cash-cow, anti-lorry policies etc, and everything to do with footways and verges (and the utility infrastructure underneath them) is of necessity not constructed with anything like the same robustness as the carriageways.Unfortunately, even though the original offence of parking on the pavement doesn’t carry with it the additional penalty of endorsement/points, failing to identify the driver does.
Sadly, although you’ve now been fined by the Court and paid out for legal help, you’ll not only have yet another additional cost when it comes to time to renew your insurance next time, you’ll face a similar loading on your premiums for each of the following 4 years as well…
1st paragraph …
Yeh?
You just carry on believing that mate.
2nd paragraph…
I’ve already discovered that., but thanks anyway.
3rd paragraph…
Don’t think so, the faliure to notify charge was dropped, the points rescinded, and parking charge was fine only no points.
The solicitor told me different about any changes in insurance in the future, so no offence I’ll choose to believe his version and synopsis of the outcome rather than yours.
robroy:
Roymondo:
The reason parking of HGVs on footways etc is forbidden in the first place has nothing to do with cash-cow, anti-lorry policies etc, and everything to do with footways and verges (and the utility infrastructure underneath them) is of necessity not constructed with anything like the same robustness as the carriageways.Unfortunately, even though the original offence of parking on the pavement doesn’t carry with it the additional penalty of endorsement/points, failing to identify the driver does.
Sadly, although you’ve now been fined by the Court and paid out for legal help, you’ll not only have yet another additional cost when it comes to time to renew your insurance next time, you’ll face a similar loading on your premiums for each of the following 4 years as well…
1st paragraph …
Yeh?
You just carry on believing that mate.2nd paragraph…
I’ve already discovered that., but thanks anyway.3rd paragraph…
Don’t think so, the faliure to notify charge was dropped, the points rescinded, and parking charge was fine only no points.
The solicitor told me different about any changes in insurance in the future, so no offence I’ll choose to believe his version and synopsis of the outcome rather than yours.
My apologies - I missed the bit where you said the points etc had been rescinded.
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No probs mate.