Different Jobs

Rob K:
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: Baby1 in the firing line again I see. Makes a change from me I suppose. :laughing:

@ Drew, as a very general rule - if you love/enjoy driving then you’ll be able to put up with all the BS that comes with the job in order to earn some fairly decent money. If you don’t enjoy driving and would have no interest in this sector whatsoever if you hadn’t heard about the potential earnings then my advice to you is to forget it and look at other sectors as you’ll get ■■■■■■ off with it in no time at all. Really, enjoying driving is what makes the job relatively stress free for a lot of us.

A lot of people rave about supermarket work as being the ‘daddy’ in terms of pay but I disagree. When you factor in all the weekends and bank holidays you’ll be working on your rolling rota the money isn’t really anything spectacular. The only thing really going for it is that you’re home every night and know when you’ll be starting and finishing each day. Of course if you’ve got family commitments then that’s worth a lot, but it isn’t for everybody.

Is it hard to get a permanent job with supermarkets? Mostly I have seen only agencies advertising that kind of job, or I should just fill out application forms that are available online and wait?

MikeCunn:

ady1:

Conor:

ady1:
as for if they caught me,not a thing they could do,one job was working in a factory,one was driving :wink:

BWAHAHA what a clueless [zb] you are. You could have had your licence revoked and ended up in prison. It would take a traffic commissioner precisely 10 minutes to find out what other work you’d been doing other than driving with one single phone call to HMRC.

Any other work is classed as other work under tacho rules and what you did was completely illegal under EU drivers hours rules as you didn’t have sufficient daily or weekly rest. ALL NON DRIVING WORK is classed as other work under EU Drivers Hours regs. So say you start driving at 8am and finish at 4pm then go to a factory and do a night shift from 5pm to 3am then you’re back in the wagon at 8am you’ve not had sufficient daily rest of 11hrs - you’ve only had 5 because the factory work is classed as other work for tacho regs.

[zb] [zb],working in a factory has got zb to do with driving a truck
how do you think the
fireman
sqaddie
window cleaners
taxi drivers
caravan repair bloke all do it,work in day,drive evening/nights,are you saying they all run bent,stupid [zb]

the only thing that amazes me is you havent blamed it all on P.O.A like you normally do,and for your info i was stopped more than once by vosa and they never said a word,just checked my tacho,truck and sent me on my way :unamused: :unamused: knowitall who knows zb all

Conor is completely correct ady1. You were bang out of order and if you’d had a bump or fell asleep etc they would’ve nailed you to the wall by your ■■■■.
If you drive for reward in any given week, you come under Tacho rules. ANY paid or voluntary work counts towards other work. You weren’t resting because you were working in a factory so you didn’t have sufficient daily or weekly rest.
As for,
Fireman
Sqaddies
Window cleaners
Taxi drivers and
Caravan repair bloke.
Emergency services and the Armed Forces are exempt.
Window cleaners, Taxi Drivers and the Caravan Repair Bloke, they’re not carrying goods, nor are they over 3.5 tonnes.

dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/R … Europe.pdf

Use the link and learn something. Ask at Stobarts for re-training aswell perhaps, your lack of knowledge of drivers hours rules is pretty shocking.

ive had 1[YES 1] infringment in 2 years so id guess i knowq what im on about,even the driver trainer said i wish i had more drivers like you,as i say ive been stopped by vosa many times in past[not last 4 years or so] and at NO point did they question me about anything,they checked my tachos,check truck and if all was fine with those i was allowed on my merry way,I
THE REASON THEY DONT QUESTION ME IS THEY HAVE NO JURISTICTION OVER ANYTHING I MAY DO WHICH DOESNT INVOLVE DRIVING,WORKING A GRINDING MACHINE IN A ENGINEERING FACTORY HAS NO RELEVANCE TO DRIVING LAWS,a universal grinder/spline grinder/internal grinder/surface grinders for your information do not have STEERING WHEELS/CLUTCHES/BRAKES,all vosa care about is driving time.wtd etc,there not bothered if i grind a half-shaft on a external grinder/its no revelence to them at all,same as the bloke who cleans windows/builds walls :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

Ady, the rules are clearly displayed. Any work you do outside of driving is counted as other work for EU drivers regs. The only reason you didn’t get caught by VOSA at a roadside check is because they have no way of knowing you did another job at the roadside check.

However if you had an accident or someone grassed you up you’d be in ■■■■ street because you’d not had sufficient daily and weekly rest and VOSA DO care about that.

Tell you what Ady, if you are so confident you are right, PM me your real name, address and the dates you did this and who you worked for. I’ll then inform VOSA and the Traffic Commissioner. As you are so sure you are right, you will have no problem doing this because you know nothing will happen.

ady1:
[zb] [zb],working in a factory has got zb to do with driving a truck
how do you think the
fireman
sqaddie
window cleaners
taxi drivers
caravan repair bloke all do it,work in day,drive evening/nights,are you saying they all run bent,stupid [zb]

the only thing that amazes me is you havent blamed it all on P.O.A like you normally do,and for your info i was stopped more than once by vosa and they never said a word,just checked my tacho,truck and sent me on my way :unamused: :unamused: knowitall who knows zb all

Yes they are all running bent if they’ve not had sufficient daily or weekly rest. IT IS THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE IN THE EU DRIVERS HOURS REGULATIONS.

The only reason you didn’t get caught is because you broke the law by not recording the non-driving jobs on a card as other work and carrying them with you as you are legally required to.

From dft.gov.uk%2Fpgr%2Ffreight%2 … sgoods.pdf

Drivers must record all other work and periods of availability — including work for other employers —
on all driving and non-driving days within a week where they have undertaken driving that comes
within the scope of the EU rules on drivers’ hours since their last weekly rest.

For example, a driver who works in a warehouse on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday and wishes
to drive a vehicle within the scope of the EU rules on Thursday of the same week must complete
records for Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.

The record must be either:

written manually on a chart;
written manually on a printout from a digital tachograph;
made by using the manual input facility of a digital tachograph; or
for days where a driver has been subject to the domestic drivers’ hours rules and a record
is legally required (see page 25), recorded in a domestic log book.

For the non-driving days, the record may simply show the driver’s name, the date, and the start
and finish of the shift. These records must be carried on the vehicle by the driver to be produced to
enforcement officers for the relevant period (see individual sections on how to make manual entries).

From roadtransport.com/Articles/2 … lained.htm

What is a break?
A break is taken by a driver during his shift for recuperation. It should not be interrupted. However, it may be taken in a moving vehicle provided no other work is undertaken.

What is a rest?
A rest is taken at the end of a shift where the driver may freely dispose of his time. Therefore, if the driver is engaged in other employment or is under some obligation or instruction it cannot be counted as a rest. A rest should be uninterrupted.

CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU? Quite how someone who is so ignorant of the EU drivers hours regs can call themselves a professional driver is beyond me. You’re not a professional driver or even anything approaching it. You’re a cowboy who runs bent, plain and simple. You should change your forum name to John Wayne. And if I ever find out your real name and address, I’ll shop you myself. You’ve got 7 years to worry as that is how long records have to be kept by employers.

And I don’t give a ■■■■ if you end up in clink, your wife leaves you and you lose your home. Clever ■■■■■ like you kill people and mame them for life.

:open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: CONOR! Your full of the brown stuff! :smiling_imp: Zero chance of getting caught. Who cares if a man works factory by day wagon in evening? You really think vosa are gonna pay attention to your e mail? :smiling_imp: ffs conor second name rog :stuck_out_tongue:

Riho:

Rob K:
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: Baby1 in the firing line again I see. Makes a change from me I suppose. :laughing:

@ Drew, as a very general rule - if you love/enjoy driving then you’ll be able to put up with all the BS that comes with the job in order to earn some fairly decent money. If you don’t enjoy driving and would have no interest in this sector whatsoever if you hadn’t heard about the potential earnings then my advice to you is to forget it and look at other sectors as you’ll get ■■■■■■ off with it in no time at all. Really, enjoying driving is what makes the job relatively stress free for a lot of us.

A lot of people rave about supermarket work as being the ‘daddy’ in terms of pay but I disagree. When you factor in all the weekends and bank holidays you’ll be working on your rolling rota the money isn’t really anything spectacular. The only thing really going for it is that you’re home every night and know when you’ll be starting and finishing each day. Of course if you’ve got family commitments then that’s worth a lot, but it isn’t for everybody.

Is it hard to get a permanent job with supermarkets? Mostly I have seen only agencies advertising that kind of job, or I should just fill out application forms that are available online and wait?

Tends to get a lot of applicants so someone with little to no experience is unlikely to be taken on imho. I’d have said your best way in would be to get in there on agency and prove yourself. Once you’ve done that you’ll start getting to know familiar faces by their name and then the rest is a piece of ■■■■…

ady1:

DrewHughes:
Hey guys,

I am pretty new to the forum and I haven’t yet got a licence and I’m researching the industry as much as I can, before I commit myself and to also cure my curiosity.

I’ve heard rumours about all sorts of jobs in logistics and I can never really decide if these things are true or not, so I’m just gunna go ahead and ask the question.

I’ve heard that the fuel tanker jobs are the best paid, one of the lads I know, his dad works for Shell driving the tankers and is apparantley on 40-50k a year which I thought was amazing, and he’s home everynight! But I took his figures with a pinch of salt as I thought it was a bit of an a white lie especially with the current climate we are in.

So what realistically is the potential earning driving tankers?


Also driving car transporters I’ve heard are very good as well, but can be quite high pressure?


Tipper drivers? Apparantly can earn a decent living and there home everynight


Supermarkets I also heard is good for new passes and is also one of the highest paid in general haulage?


Lastly are there any specialist type jobs are well paid, like oversized loads? Leicester Heavy Haulage springs to mind and seems a very interesting job.

If anyone could give me an idea of these jobs are like, or infact recommend a decent job I’d be all ears, even though im still a bit wet behind them lol

Cheers

Drew

do two jobs,i.e work in a factory in day time,mon-fri,then sat- sun driving[earnt shed loads doing that],one week did fri 6 a.m-6 p.m in factory,straight to b+q and did 7 p.m-5 a.m fri night for them,then straight back to factory for 6 a.m-12a.m[6 hrs] sat morn,out on my legs, but pay pckt following week was zb hot,too me its the way to earn serious money,factory[or what ever]+driving time left over

Yeah, I did that for two and a half years too. As well as the extra money, it gave me a taste of quite a few different firms and the types of work carried out, all the while keeping my eyes open for the chance to get on the road full time.
During that period I applied for just three jobs that I considered worthwhile, so it just goes to show that theres an awful lot of crap work about, and you have to be patient when looking. Hang on to your day job and get as much agency work as you can with different agencies (you’ll find theres a lot of crap agencies as well, that said the last one I drove for was a diamond geezer, and if he could guarantee to keep me busy I’d be still with him full-time)
If you’re serious about driving wagons, I don’t think you’ll better the route I took into the industry, but, then, things were different six years ago…

Some interesting view here!

Why are the fridges so well paid then?

DrewHughes:
Some interesting view here!

Why are the fridges so well paid then?

Because they have the more intelligent drivers .

Also you do more work and get more hours in .

more handballing?

DrewHughes:
more handballing?

on the fridges,no most times its open the back doors and back on a bay,sometimes with smaller food factories you will have to pump the pallets out of the back with a pump truck but no handballing.

i wouldn’t do it if it was :wink: :slight_smile: