Saw one of Mason Bros trailers on its knees on the A16 in Boston town centre around 8 this morning. It appeared to have happened just as the driver pulled away at traffic lights. Made a right mess of the trailer legs, underskirts etc. Fortunately there was room for traffic to get past. Oops!
stobarttrucker:
Dafman:
stobarttrucker:
i allways found in ten years of shunting if the fifth wheel pin safety catch would go on it was on right.or i was luckyNow before you have a go at other people check your spelling stupid, carry on men.
Hiya daftman
Have you ever heard of the term “chip on his shoulder”
lighten up and get some happiness in your life.
this will be my last comment about or to you because people like you just try to bring people down to your own miserable level.
good day
You have no idea how far from miserable I am.
They took the unit from West Bergholt to Boreham services for an inspection? That’s a fair hike for that surely - 25 miles easily. Surely they could have found somewhere a bit nearer than that?
Gary
Dafman is just a bit ■■■■■■ off because someone posted his picture on the forum and said his name is Bob. 
Question to everybody on here: Do you go under the trailer and have a look up the arse end of the fifth wheel during your coupling procedure?
Contraflow:
Dafman is just a bit ■■■■■■ off because someone posted his picture on the forum and said his name is Bob.Question to everybody on here: Do you go under the trailer and have a look up the arse end of the fifth wheel during your coupling procedure?
Yes 
Contraflow:
Dafman is just a bit ■■■■■■ off because someone posted his picture on the forum and said his name is Bob.Question to everybody on here: Do you go under the trailer and have a look up the arse end of the fifth wheel during your coupling procedure?
If the idiot would have asked I would have told him my name because it is not Bob.
And no never
if it dnt sound right then yes
Contraflow:
Question to everybody on here: Do you go under the trailer and have a look up the arse end of the fifth wheel during your coupling procedure?
Yes, to be honest I never used to, but I have done for about the past year.
tango boy:
Contraflow:
Question to everybody on here: Do you go under the trailer and have a look up the arse end of the fifth wheel during your coupling procedure?Yes
Good.
I know a fair few “Dafman” types who don’t though.
One of them put a trailer through the house opposite our yard entrance a while back. Even after that, he still doesn’t bother to check. 
Contraflow:
Question to everybody on here: Do you go under the trailer and have a look up the arse end of the fifth wheel during your coupling procedure?
Never, unless it didn’t sound/feel right when hooking up, and on uneven ground, and if I go under at an angle, or if I’m slightly off centre and the trailer moves into the jaws, and when the pin is up in the air & I can’t be arsed to wind it down, and if the front end is a bit saggy, and did I mention I always check if it didn’t sound right?
Contraflow:
Question to everybody on here: Do you go under the trailer and have a look up the arse end of the fifth wheel during your coupling procedure?
Yes, every time. It might take 3 whole seconds to check it when I do the clip, but it’ll take a lot longer if I lose the trailer!
Contraflow:
Question to everybody on here: Do you go under the trailer and have a look up the arse end of the fifth wheel during your coupling procedure?
Always!
stevieboy308:
NiceRoadTrucker:
Sounda like he got slapped for a couple of other things but why the fixed penalty for using a vehicle in a dangerous condition after it says he secured it correctly?you missed out the “not”
“The examination showed that the driver had not secured the trailer correctly to the truck when he collected the load from Purfleet
Oh yeah!! Ooooops!! 
there could have been a fault with the fith wheel. This happend to me when i worked for my first company i hitched upto the trailer put the fith wheel clip in and pullled forward twice to make sure,everything fine,attached suzies,put legs up,plate on did my checks etc then set off to B+Q RDC Coventry with a load of lawnmowers. I pulled out of the yard onto the road it was about 4:30 am,got about 30 metres when all of a sudden “Woosssshhhh!” “Bang!” I F-----g ■■■■ my self! looked in my mirrors to see a trailer on it’s arse and my unit coming to a sudden hault as it had lost all it’s air. i was racking my brain thinking," im sure i put the pin in" " i did 2 shunts" “whats happend?” luckily for me one of the class 2 lads had followed me out and he saw me put the pin in and do the shunts in the yard. We called the garage lads out they got a forklift to lift the trailer and another unit to hook under it i set of to Cov. They rang me latter that say to say the lock on the fith wheel was faulty even though it would look like it was locked in place it would work loose thus meaning the trailer would come away. So i was covered,funny thing was though the unit had only been in for service the week before 
The old bill and VOSA shouldn’t be too quick to point the finger at the driver.
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
there could have been a fault with the fith wheel. This happend to me when i worked for my first company i hitched upto the trailer put the fith wheel clip in and pullled forward twice to make sure,everything fine,attached suzies,put legs up,plate on did my checks etc then set off to B+Q RDC Coventry with a load of lawnmowers. I pulled out of the yard onto the road it was about 4:30 am,got about 30 metres when all of a sudden “Woosssshhhh!” “Bang!” I F-----g [zb] my self! looked in my mirrors to see a trailer on it’s arse and my unit coming to a sudden hault as it had lost all it’s air. i was racking my brain thinking," im sure i put the pin in" " i did 2 shunts" “whats happend?” luckily for me one of the class 2 lads had followed me out and he saw me put the pin in and do the shunts in the yard. We called the garage lads out they got a forklift to lift the trailer and another unit to hook under it i set of to Cov. They rang me latter that say to say the lock on the fith wheel was faulty even though it would look like it was locked in place it would work loose thus meaning the trailer would come away. So i was covered,funny thing was though the unit had only been in for service the week before
to be fair it doesn’t sound like they were quick to point the finger at the driver
The trailer was removed by a specialist recovery firm and the tractor unit was taken to Boreham services site and clamped until a mechanical investigation was carried out by inspectors from VOSA, the Vehicle and Operator Services Agency.
The mechanical examination found that there were no faults with the lorry.
Investigating officer Pc Gary Winfield, said: “The examination showed that the driver had not secured the trailer correctly to the truck when he collected the load from Purfleet.
FarnboroughBoy11:
stobarttrucker:
i allways found in ten years of shunting if the fifth wheel pin safety catch would go on it was on right.or i was luckyJust because the dog clip goes in it doesn’t mean the jaws are coupled correctly.
Why not?
scaniason:
Contraflow:
Question to everybody on here: Do you go under the trailer and have a look up the arse end of the fifth wheel during your coupling procedure?Yes, every time. It might take 3 whole seconds to check it when I do the clip, but it’ll take a lot longer if I lose the trailer!
If you pick up a trailer Fifth Wheel makes twice klick.First it closes and the second when it lockes. locked is locked
but
Fifth-wheel and Kingpin wear out. Forward/backward by far more then sidewise.Many Workshop avoid cost and Work to replace it by tightening a Screw which i actually never did.Because,as its ok when you drive in a straight Line it may brake open the Fifth Wheel when you do a tight Turn.
Don’t say that as experianced,but im HGV Mechanic and worked most Years in workshop,so i know why its cheaper and safer to swap Kingpin and Ring of fifth Wheel
Dafman:
stobarttrucker:
Dafman:
stobarttrucker:
i allways found in ten years of shunting if the fifth wheel pin safety catch would go on it was on right.or i was luckyNow before you have a go at other people check your spelling stupid, carry on men.
Hiya daftman
Have you ever heard of the term “chip on his shoulder”
lighten up and get some happiness in your life.
this will be my last comment about or to you because people like you just try to bring people down to your own miserable level.
good day
You have no idea how far from miserable I am.
He has died inside
Immigrant:
FarnboroughBoy11:
stobarttrucker:
i allways found in ten years of shunting if the fifth wheel pin safety catch would go on it was on right.or i was luckyJust because the dog clip goes in it doesn’t mean the jaws are coupled correctly.
Why not?
Because the pin could be sitting on top of the jaws instead of around it so the first bump you go over the pin jumps out.
FarnboroughBoy11:
Immigrant:
FarnboroughBoy11:
stobarttrucker:
i allways found in ten years of shunting if the fifth wheel pin safety catch would go on it was on right.or i was luckyJust because the dog clip goes in it doesn’t mean the jaws are coupled correctly.
Why not?
Because the pin could be sitting on top of the jaws instead of around it so the first bump you go over the pin jumps out.
That was my personal experience as I posted earlier.
regards dave.