If you’re on a night out and park up for the night and have taken your card out, will starting the engine for 30 minutes or flicking the ignition on to open and close a window affect the daily rest. Just went for a driving assesment and was told that i couldn’t do that even though it would of only been to give the batteries a burst of energy when using a microwave or after using an inverter. I thought this would only affect it if my card was in 
It only matters if you move. If you don’t move, you can start the engine or whatever you want. You can check this easily - turn of engine and remove keys, put it on rest. Insert keys, play with windows and you’re still in rest. Start engine, you will still be on rest. Move, even 1m and it will go to driving, then other work when you stop.
He reckoned that as soon as ignition is switched on it would record other work and you cant quickly change it. Bit bloody stupid.
Had this problem with a few of our trucks where you’d be on rest, turn on the ignition and it would go to other work. Apparently it was a fault with the tacho heads which was sorted at the tacho workshops.
If you take you card out at the end of the day and don’t move the truck it won’t make any difference to your daily rest.
If the card is out then no problem, as siad unless you move the vehicle and have un accounted movements…can’t see the problem meself, we’d be in trouble all the time as our lorries often get loaded overnight whilst we’re tucked up at home.
If the card is in, some lorries default the mode to other work when the ignition is switched on, all you can do is check that your lorry is wired properly.
mikeshe:
If you take you card out at the end of the day and don’t move the truck it won’t make any difference to your daily rest.
If it did I’d be in the ■■■■ every night 
Set your head to rest .
remove card .
start engine .
Before you put the card in next shift set it to rest ( obviously some tacho heads revert to work with ignition switched )
insert card
manual entry’s
Good to go
I didn’t think it’d be a problem with the card out, as it could always be entered manually. Maybe he thought i meant leaving the card in at nigh when parked up, but again then that isn’t quite right either.
pg1973:
I didn’t think it’d be a problem with the card out, as it could always be entered manually. Maybe he thought i meant leaving the card in at nigh when parked up, but again then that isn’t quite right either.
well it can be if like I said, some tacho’s switch over when the ignition is switched even when doing it to open a window …
Ok thanks for that. Just i will be starting a new job going away mon-fri and been a long time since i done nights out. Just seemed a bit odd to me especially as my last motor had analouge still. This digi one is going to throw me a bit. 
pg1973:
Ok thanks for that. Just i will be starting a new job going away mon-fri and been a long time since i done nights out. Just seemed a bit odd to me especially as my last motor had analouge still. This digi one is going to throw me a bit.
There’s plenty of help here just don’t skimp on breaks have 17 instead of 15 and 32 instead of 30 and 47 instead of 45,
remember that poa will fool the tacho its break etc
nick2008:
pg1973:
Ok thanks for that. Just i will be starting a new job going away mon-fri and been a long time since i done nights out. Just seemed a bit odd to me especially as my last motor had analouge still. This digi one is going to throw me a bit.There’s plenty of help here just don’t skimp on breaks have 17 instead of 15 and 32 instead of 30 and 47 instead of 45,
remember that poa will fool the tacho its break etc
Fair play to the assesor he said to add a couple of minutes on each break because of the tacho not registering seconds just whole minutes. How does that work with poa and breaks. If i’m on 2 hours poa does that give me a clean 4.5 or is it purely duty hours.
I just take my card out, then do what I like, I don’t move the wagon but I have had the engine running when I’ve had a motor with a broken night heater. Or if I want the window open for a little while. Never understood why people put it on bed before taking the card out though, some of our lads do it.
pg1973:
nick2008:
pg1973:
Ok thanks for that. Just i will be starting a new job going away mon-fri and been a long time since i done nights out. Just seemed a bit odd to me especially as my last motor had analouge still. This digi one is going to throw me a bit.There’s plenty of help here just don’t skimp on breaks have 17 instead of 15 and 32 instead of 30 and 47 instead of 45,
remember that poa will fool the tacho its break etc
Fair play to the assesor he said to add a couple of minutes on each break because of the tacho not registering seconds just whole minutes. How does that work with poa and breaks. If i’m on 2 hours poa does that give me a clean 4.5 or is it purely duty hours.
POA wont reset your driving for a clean 4.5 but it will clear the head (depending on version ). so fooling you that you have a fresh 4.5 If using poa I always wright down my driving just in case it resets …
POA extends your Working time NOT Overall duty time .
leave the card in
and get them to sort the truck