Nisa Stoke this morning; security bod; you’ve got to wear a mask on this site. Me; I take it you didn’t get the memo then? Sb; you’ve still got to wear one. Me; of course I do, it’s a DHL site after all.
pierrot 14:
Rob, you wouldn’t want to be living and working here in France.
We’re in a bit of a Catch22 situation.
Macron has stated that compulsory vaccination will never happen, the French will be free to choose,BUT and a very big BUT, as of 1st August,
to go out to eat in a restaurant, drink in a bar, do your shopping in big commercial centres, theatres, clubs, cinemas,
swimming pools, zoos, yes even zoos, anywhere that has more than 50 people capacity,you will have to prove that you have been vaccinated or had a PCR test in the past 72 hours
to be allowed intalk about forcing legislation through the back door
gonna be hell for us chauffeur routiers trying to eat in the restaurants.
I can envisage some strike action from the drivers unions,
there have already been demos outside town halls and regional government offices.
They are bringing this in in Ireland too. Whoever said cohesion is illegal got that wrong.
Imho those who are most for civil liberties and real freedom are most likely to prop up a bar. So, I say try your best pubs and bars. We the ‘drinking’ people anit gonba take it…
dhl company policy til September 
then it will be reviewed 
LazyDriver:
pierrot 14:
Rob, you wouldn’t want to be living and working here in France.
We’re in a bit of a Catch22 situation.
Macron has stated that compulsory vaccination will never happen, the French will be free to choose,BUT and a very big BUT, as of 1st August,
to go out to eat in a restaurant, drink in a bar, do your shopping in big commercial centres, theatres, clubs, cinemas,
swimming pools, zoos, yes even zoos, anywhere that has more than 50 people capacity,you will have to prove that you have been vaccinated or had a PCR test in the past 72 hours
to be allowed intalk about forcing legislation through the back door
gonna be hell for us chauffeur routiers trying to eat in the restaurants.
I can envisage some strike action from the drivers unions,
there have already been demos outside town halls and regional government offices.They are bringing this in in Ireland too. Whoever said cohesion is illegal got that wrong.
Imho those who are most for civil liberties and real freedom are most likely to prop up a bar. So, I say try your best pubs and bars. We the ‘drinking’ people anit gonba take it…
Not sure I agree with it, in fact NO I don’t agree with it…but it was ALWAYS going to happen…No jab proof /no entry.
But at least it ain’t being made compulsory where they are holding people down against their will and forcing them.
So you/we are faced with a choice, on what you value the most.
A social life outside of work, OR principles and sticking to opinions.
It’s YOUR call.
I’m shallow I’ve gone for the social life option, …Not proud but also not bothered.
And not ashamed of my choice, nor what anybody (on here) thinks about it either tbh. 
The next step will be random spot checks where the SS storm places like restaurants, theatres ect demanding papers be shown that alls in order with stamp .
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rearaxle:
The next step will be random spot checks where the SS storm places like restaurants, theatres ect demanding papers be shown that alls in order with stamp .Sent from my SM-N976B using Tapatalk
Yep, no doubt, with no end of volunteers for the SS.
Mate seriously, …It’s bad enough trying to get drivers to stick together to prevent ■■■■ cameras going in your cab or something, so what chance has a modern day Wolfie Smith (Google him if you don’t know wtf I’m on about) got of starting the modern revolution resistance movement?
Citizen Smith, there’s a blast from the past.
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robroy:
LazyDriver:
pierrot 14:
Not sure I agree with it, in fact NO I don’t agree with it…but it was ALWAYS going to happen…No jab proof /no entry.But at least it ain’t being made compulsory where they are holding people down against their will and forcing them.
So you/we are faced with a choice, on what you value the most.
A social life outside of work, OR principles and sticking to opinions.
It’s YOUR call.I’m shallow I’ve gone for the social life option, …Not proud but also not bothered.
And not ashamed of my choice, nor what anybody (on here) thinks about it either tbh.
You’re right and it’s wrong. Whereas they aren’t physically holding you down, the cohesion and exclusion unless you agree to permanently alter your very fabric, using a new therapy that has little more than 8 months pedigree and is still in trial. And in those 8 months there has been some very concerning side effects. I agree it is personal choice, but it should be a level choice without consequence. I mean, what other medical procedure in history has come with these conditions? I’ve had all my vaccines and even had some experimental treatment, as that was my choice. If I hadn’t had all that, other than maybe not being here today, I would still have been allowed to granddad dance in Room at the top or whatever.
LazyDriver:
robroy:
LazyDriver:
pierrot 14:
Not sure I agree with it, in fact NO I don’t agree with it…but it was ALWAYS going to happen…No jab proof /no entry.But at least it ain’t being made compulsory where they are holding people down against their will and forcing them.
So you/we are faced with a choice, on what you value the most.
A social life outside of work, OR principles and sticking to opinions.
It’s YOUR call.I’m shallow I’ve gone for the social life option, …Not proud but also not bothered.
And not ashamed of my choice, nor what anybody (on here) thinks about it either tbh.You’re right and it’s wrong. Whereas they aren’t physically holding you down, the cohesion and exclusion unless you agree to permanently alter your very fabric, using a new therapy that has little more than 8 months pedigree and is still in trial. And in those 8 months there has been some very concerning side effects. I agree it is personal choice, but it should be a level choice without consequence. I mean, what other medical procedure in history has come with these conditions? I’ve had all my vaccines and even had some experimental treatment, as that was my choice. If I hadn’t had all that, other than maybe not being here today, I would still have been allowed to granddad dance in Room at the top or whatever.
I agree with much of that, and all they are doing by these actions is fuelling the ott theories and reasons for it put about by some.
So now you/we need to make a decision in our own minds…
Is it…
An elaborate well planned out strategic plan drawn up by some meglomanic madman with a dodgy foreign accent, wanting to ‘Rule the Workd’, in an underground labrynth on a well defended island, sat in a big comfy sofy armchair stroking a white cat …aka a Bond villain?
(ok sounds unlikely and bloody ridiculous, but have you read some of the opinions and points of view on these Covid threads by others? 
)
Or
Just a dodgy badly planned, clumsily carried out cluster ■■■■ of a strategy, from a not very well organised (nor competent) Government.
Done to eliminate an unprecedented general flu like virus, (but in the process rubbing people up the wrong way by coercing them), …
Done purely to get a fair crack at fighting it and getting back to some element of normality, but done on a wing and a prayer…and a lot of Govt backed blagging. 
As that Geordie guy on Big Brother says…YOU DECIDE.
robroy:
LazyDriver:
robroy:
LazyDriver:
pierrot 14:
Not sure I agree with it, in fact NO I don’t agree with it…but it was ALWAYS going to happen…No jab proof /no entry.But at least it ain’t being made compulsory where they are holding people down against their will and forcing them.
So you/we are faced with a choice, on what you value the most.
A social life outside of work, OR principles and sticking to opinions.
It’s YOUR call.I’m shallow I’ve gone for the social life option, …Not proud but also not bothered.
And not ashamed of my choice, nor what anybody (on here) thinks about it either tbh.You’re right and it’s wrong. Whereas they aren’t physically holding you down, the cohesion and exclusion unless you agree to permanently alter your very fabric, using a new therapy that has little more than 8 months pedigree and is still in trial. And in those 8 months there has been some very concerning side effects. I agree it is personal choice, but it should be a level choice without consequence. I mean, what other medical procedure in history has come with these conditions? I’ve had all my vaccines and even had some experimental treatment, as that was my choice. If I hadn’t had all that, other than maybe not being here today, I would still have been allowed to granddad dance in Room at the top or whatever.
I agree with much of that, and all they are doing by these actions is fuelling the ott theories and reasons for it put about by some.
So now you/we need to make a decision in our own minds…
Is it…
An elaborate well planned out strategic plan drawn up by some meglomanic madman with a dodgy foreign accent, wanting to ‘Rule the Workd’, in an underground labrynth on a well defended island, sat in a big comfy sofy armchair stroking a white cat …aka a Bond villain?
(ok sounds unlikely and bloody ridiculous, but have you read some of the opinions and points of view on these Covid threads by others?
Or
Just a dodgy badly planned, clumsily carried out cluster [zb] of a strategy, from a not very well organised (nor competent) Government.
Done to eliminate an unprecedented general flu like virus, (but in the process rubbing people up the wrong way by coercing them), …
Done purely to get a fair crack at fighting it and getting back to some element of normality, but done on a wing and a prayer…and a lot of Govt backed blagging.As that Geordie guy on Big Brother says…YOU DECIDE.
So what happens?
The Gov puts out info and the reaction?
“Ah, they’re trying too hard. There must be a problem”
“The harder they try to convince me, the less I believe”
Do nothing?
Leave the way clear for those who don’t need facts and evidence to make an argument?
Let others believe it isn’t really important, because if it was there would be laws?
Put up experts?
Ah, but it’s just said all experts are “tools of ■■?”.
“Oh, except for OUR expert of course”, look at him in his book lined room, sat in a leather chair. He’s not got any figures surveys etc, but he looks old fashioned and trustworthy. If you don’t understand what’s going on he will reassure you. He will convince you there is a simple answer to a complicated problem…
It’s interesting to…
Note that the anti/vax/mask/covid crowd are still busy protesting over restrictions that lifted a day ago.
Just sayin’ like.
In answer to Franglais, of whom I rarely agree with on anything. 
Thing is though I ain’t entirely on one side in all this, I do not believe everything I am told or what I hear, and certainly not on the media news despite what that clown keeps chucking at those who don’t agree with him.
I do keep.an open mind, not just on this but on every ■■■■ thing, I analyse what I am told, and try and filter out the b/s on both sides, and what I consider to be what is actually true,.what is half true, what I think I am being led in to believing and what is pure bollicks.
I do not doubt that Governments are squeezing the juice out of all this as an opportunity to take advantage of different types of conforming and obeying.
Masks, bubbles and all the rest of the crap being examples.
Thing is though when I read some (or most) of the stuff from the opposite end on all this, I find it very difficult to cherry pick anything I think is not bizarre fantasy.
I’m utterly amazed and bewildered what some of them genuinely believe is to be going on
It makes George Orwells work look like Walt Disney, it’s Armageddon Doomsday flat earth stuff.ffs…God Almighty help us if they are even half right…and that comes from a pure atheist. and after saying that, it makes most religious fantasy claptrap sound feasible in comparison. …I wonder how many of them have some sort of religion, that may explain a lot what they believe.:
Anyway if what they say is true on either count, I’ll be burning in hell. 
As I said if I thought these guys were accurate in their beliefs, I’d be topping myself.
yourhavingalarf:
It’s interesting to…Note that the anti/vax/mask/covid crowd are still busy protesting over restrictions that lifted a day ago.
Just sayin’ like.
Are they being led by Jeremy Corbin’s brother by any chance?
One of the UKs leading anti vax campaigners
Google him ffs, the man is more embarrassing than his sibling… if ever anybody is doing more for the opposite side he is speaking up for, it is him.
The biggest clown since Charlie Carioli.
yourhavingalarf:
It’s interesting to…Note that the anti/vax/mask/covid crowd are still busy protesting over restrictions that lifted a day ago.
Just sayin’ like.
Religious beliefs are immune to evidence and fact.
robroy:
yourhavingalarf:
It’s interesting to…Note that the anti/vax/mask/covid crowd are still busy protesting over restrictions that lifted a day ago.
Just sayin’ like.
Are they being led by Jeremy Corbin’s brother by any chance?
One of the UKs leading anti vax campaigners
Google him ffs, the man is more embarrassing than his sibling… if ever anybody is doing more for the opposite side he is speaking up for, it is him.
The biggest clown since Charlie Carioli.
Probable false/controlled opposition would be my guess…in place to embarrass/discredit. Very much how the Deep-State rolls.
robroy:
In answer to Franglais, of whom I rarely agree with on anything.Thing is though I ain’t entirely on one side in all this, I do not believe everything I am told or what I hear, and certainly not on the media news despite what that clown keeps chucking at those who don’t agree with him.
I do keep.an open mind, not just on this but on every [zb] thing, I analyse what I am told, and try and filter out the b/s on both sides, and what I consider to be what is actually true,.what is half true, what I think I am being led in to believing and what is pure bollicks.I do not doubt that Governments are squeezing the juice out of all this as an opportunity to take advantage of different types of conforming and obeying.
Masks, bubbles and all the rest of the crap being examples.Thing is though when I read some (or most) of the stuff from the opposite end on all this, I find it very difficult to cherry pick anything I think is not bizarre fantasy.
I’m utterly amazed and bewildered what some of them genuinely believe is to be going on
It makes George Orwells work look like Walt Disney, it’s Armageddon Doomsday flat earth stuff.ffs…God Almighty help us if they are even half right…and that comes from a pure atheist.
Anyway if what they say is true on either count, I’ll be burning in hell.
As I said if I thought these guys were accurate in their beliefs, I’d be topping myself.
They do have a religion-Freemasonry. Not the benign local back scratching stuff we see in every town and village.This is merely the facade masking the real nefarious stuff at higher levels, or degrees.(33) and above, which is where the real power resides and certain elite Masonic lodges such as P2=(Propaganda Due), Skull and Bones=(Yale University, presidents of US-Corporate titans etc are enlisted). (Scottish & York)- Right Lodges = Mother Lodge.There’s hundreds of em, even the S.A.S and N.H.S has a fraternity of their own and not forgetting the daddy of them all-(The- Order- of -The- Perfectibilists)- a.k.a- (Bavarian Illuminati).Established with Rothschild and Saxa Coburg finance by Adam Weishaupt, circa 1776 with the express mission to infiltrate every single Masonic lodge in order to forment revolutions and promote a Luciferian/Kabbalistic doctrine onto the world stage, think French/American revolution/WW1 and 2.etc,etc. while operating covertly within numerous Masonic-‘Temples’ All politicians of any high ranking, operate at 32 degree and above and all vows and obligations are to their respective lodges ABOVE all else. I’ve studied this for a few years and can say without doubt that it is most definitely a religion and a very murky and sinister one the further up the food chain it goes and it controls planet earth in many manifestations-(Knight Of Malta,Committee 300) etc, all of them ostensibly, Satanic Baal-Moloch Caananite/Jesuit fusions harking back to Sumerian/Babylonian times but very much a reason the world has become increasingly evil of late, although l suspect their reign is approaching it’s conclusion.
Truth is way stranger than fiction, in fact they have a useful tool to influence the inculcation and brainwashing of the masses…(Hollywood),Holly wood being the materials used by ancient druids to cast a spell (wands) back in antiquity,made from the wood of…you guessed it…the Holly tree.They were the Spielbergs and Kubriks of their day, so you see it all feeds into the same esoteric symbolic wheelhouse of our planets history, culture and politics. It never disappeared, merely went covert, trouble is they overplayed their hand with the internet,ie,it enabled certain folks to make certain connections and removed their,…(Deep-State-Cabal) their only real weapon…secrecy.
Their only weapon is secrecy?
Given the number of books, films, websites, podcasts, and reams of guff written, their secrecy is well and truly blown!
Robroy
Is it…
An elaborate well planned out strategic plan drawn up by some meglomanic madman with a dodgy foreign accent, wanting to ‘Rule the Workd’, in an underground labrynth on a well defended island, sat in a big comfy sofy armchair stroking a white cat …aka a Bond villain?
(ok sounds unlikely and bloody ridiculous, but have you read some of the opinions and points of view on these Covid threads by others?
Or
Just a dodgy badly planned, clumsily carried out cluster [zb] of a strategy, from a not very well organised (nor competent) Government.
Done to eliminate an unprecedented general flu like virus, (but in the process rubbing people up the wrong way by coercing them), …
Done purely to get a fair crack at fighting it and getting back to some element of normality, but done on a wing and a prayer…and a lot of Govt backed blagging.As that Geordie guy on Big Brother says…YOU DECIDE.
If it was one bumbling, bungling idiot led government you would have a point. But as this thread is illustrating, the cohesion is world wide. Given that the jab doesn’t provide immunity, even from the original strain and even the ‘experts’ say they have no idea if it is effective against the variants which are now dominant. And it doesn’t prevent transmission (just ask the government’s 3 highest ministers if these points are in question), though not full on option 1. Lets just say, I’m poisoning all the kittykat in a preemptive strike. 
If I was the type of person who dialled 999 because there was a van behind me on the motorway.
Or the type of person who ranted on about driver facing cameras, then accepted a driver facing camera in my cab.
I would more than likely allow myself and my children to be injected with unnecessary poison just so I could go for a (imaginary) pint, and call everyone crazy who did not trust and praise the government.
Clown emoji please
idrive:
If I was the type of person who dialled 999 because there was a van behind me on the motorway.Or the type of person who ranted on about driver facing cameras, then accepted a driver facing camera in my cab.
I would more than likely allow myself and my children to be injected with unnecessary poison just so I could go for a (imaginary) pint, and call everyone crazy who did not trust and praise the government.
Clown emoji please
Hmmm ok,.I se what you did there.
How do I address that one…
Are you referring to the van where I was vindicated by the Police 2or3 days later asking if I had dashcam footage of the van that had false plates (I had got the reg right after all) that was later used in a robbery?
(Maybe he was trying to pull me and my trailer full of wines and spirits over to congratulate me on my driving eh? )
Are you referring to the constant surveillance cameras that the likes of Maritime (afaik) have that I ‘‘ranted’’ about, then went on to say those ■■■■■■ event type that go off in a heavy brake or something are bad enough, that they fitted in our trucks that only 3 or 4 of us objected about?
Your last point…fill yer boots mate, do as you think fit, as I don’t hang on to your every word/post as you evidently do mine,.so I don’t care one way or the other.
Cheers.
‘Couldn’t give a toss what you do’’ emoji please.