Covid 19 not good news

Remember at the start of this “pandemic” the photos and videos on the media of empty fridge trailers parked outside hospitals ready to store the dead, the videos of lines of people queuing outside hospitals, makeshift hospitals springing up all over the place and aerial shots of mass graves being dug?

Well the trailers weren’t used, the videos of the queues have been proved fake by the videos of them all packing up and leaving with the TV camera crews, the makeshift hospitals went unused and the mass graves were just media manipulation.

Now we have worldwide restrictions, you can’t travel unless you’re prepared to quarantine for 14days.
You can’t be in a crowd of seven or more if it’s a social event, everything else is fine though.
You have to wear a mask to walk to your table in a restaurant, but you can take it off when you sit down at your table, like the air you’re breathing is different at a table compared to the path between door and table.
Some places require you to wear a mask, which will to some extent stop the spread of colds and flu by stopping coughs and sneezes from going airborne, but they offer little to no protection from getting it and people sit in their cars wearing a mask ffs.

The death rate from the actual virus, not the deaths attributed to it are almost zero, people may die with it, but not many die from it, not as many as the annual flu virus and those that have died have mostly had one or more pre existing conditions that contributed to their deaths. Normal healthy people have nothing to fear from what is essentially a bloody cold.

Now they’re saying a vaccine is just around the corner, yet it takes years of research and clinical trials to create a vaccine, this one is almost ready after a few months.

Now as you can see, I think it’s all a load of ■■■■■■■■, many will disagree, that’s the big picture here, dividing the population, we had it with Brexit, this Covid situation, the whole BLM saga, the US election, what the reason for all this is I have no idea, but it’s very strange that out of all the things going on in the world, those four things are the headlines.

Ok she ain’t an expert, and tbf she does state that prior to her ‘rant’, yeh she’s just a gobby Geordie bird (despite trying to disguise her accent wtf is that all about? :unamused: ) and I ain’t a big fan, so just imagine for 5 mins she is just an ordinary person on the street rather than an annoying celeb, because I am hearing this view more and more from many people who are also tired of all this.

Imo she does talk sense pointing out the ott official stands and actions over all this crap…just to reiterate my view,.when I say crap, I ain’t with the conspiracy theorists, I do accept it is a real virus, just to clarify.
Anyhoo…have a watch.

youtu.be/OorfiaOqQnA

Apparently the bar at the house of commons doesn’t have to close at 22.00 - because it counts as a workplace canteen -

robroy:
Ok she ain’t an expert, and tbf she does state that prior to her ‘rant’, yeh she’s just a gobby Geordie bird (despite trying to disguise her accent wtf is that all about? :unamused: ) and I ain’t a big fan, so just imagine for 5 mins she is just an ordinary person on the street rather than an annoying celeb, because I am hearing this view more and more from many people who are also tired of all this.

Imo she does talk sense pointing out the ott official stands and actions over all this crap…just to reiterate my view,.when I say crap, I ain’t with the conspiracy theorists, I do accept it is a real virus, just to clarify.
Anyhoo…have a watch.

youtu.be/OorfiaOqQnA

Celeb? Not seen her being interviewed by Melvin Bragg, so she can’t be.
She doesn’t sound stupid or like a conspiracy fearist to me.
IMHO she is asking some good questions, but getting some other things wrong. But that’s my non expert view.

NEWS - Rishi Sunak the chancellor threatened to resign if 2nd lockdown
Reading into that says it all - he must know the economy cannot wear a second one

So that leaves the 2 choices
Economy with current or higher deaths OR try to DEFER the virus by various means but ruin the economy with later deaths deferred from earlier

I have a friend who runs a successful family funeral business, speaking to them their business hasn’t suddenly jumped through the roof, they have had a similar number of funerals this year as they did up to September last year, the only difference is they are not using as many drivers as families are managing with one hearse and one family car.

My wife is still nursing and hasn’t yet had a Covid-19 test. Her Covid ward was mothballed at the end of July, but it has just been reopened this morning with one patient. Fortunately my wife isn’t on the redeployment list this time. I had a couple of nights in Hospital due to some other breathing issue, mine could be a birth defect so I could be classed as vulnerable. I was vulnerable in 1958 too. I did get a test but the results were not given to me, as they kept me in I presume I was tested negative. :stuck_out_tongue:

Wheel Nut:
I was vulnerable in 1958 too.

I was born that year

Here’s one to have a gander of. This’ll be right up your Rue Franglais given your penchant for stats :smiley: :smiley:

youtu.be/06yja21V7xg

the maoster:
Here’s one to have a gander of. This’ll be right up your Rue Franglais given your penchant for stats :smiley: :smiley:

youtu.be/06yja21V7xg

Yes, but.
No, but.
I’ll put up more later unless anyone else can find the link to David Spiegelhalter speaking on R4 about where Julia Hartley Brewer was correct…AND where she was wrong.
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There is an issue with false positives certainly, and those involved do understand it. It is in the MSM, it is on the BBC for goodness sake.
There is a lot of confusion, and although I believe I have a handle on it, Spiegelhalter is your man to explain it.
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And he does so without making any political capital.
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Edit to add
When I say those involved understand the issues, I mean the Medics, Statisticians , Virologists etc.
Politicians may not be included on this list…especially those with degrees in ancient foreign fairy tales…

Here is The Independent mentioning the piece by Spiegelhalter.
independent.co.uk/news/uk/h … 50133.html
I haven’t found the piece itself yet.
It is worth listening too.
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Franglais:
Here is The Independent mentioning the piece by Spiegelhalter.
independent.co.uk/news/uk/h … 50133.html
I haven’t found the piece itself yet.
It is worth listening too.
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More likely needs looking into!

Dear Mr Mirror Holder, can you explain?

Of course!
“More Or Less”. Wednesday morning had a take on Patrick Valance, worth a listen, and
More or Less - Covid curve queried, false positives, and the Queen’s head - @bbcradio4 bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000mr42
go to 9mins in to hear David Spiegelhalter explain about false positives.
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Are the wheels coming off “project fear”? Are people heartily fed up, is the natural rebelliousness of human nature taking over? I have no idea, both sides of the argument present very slick and polished reasons as to why they are correct. I suspect that the reality lies somewhere in the middle. The guy in The YouTube clip below is certainly persuasive, but is that because he sounds middle class and academic? I have no idea of his bona fides but he does present a persuasive argument. Problem being persuasive arguments are ten a penny. Watch and make your own minds up.

youtu.be/FuxoR-Ub8Eo

Whilst I’m on a YouTube fest I’m liking this guy a lot. Yeah he could be the son of the lizard lover (I have no idea if he is btw) but I think that he’s worth a listen. Juddian you’ll certainly like the cut of his gib.

youtu.be/5yo6bFTjKnI

Edit to add; yes I’m aware that clever rhetoric can whip a crowd into a frenzy. I’m sure that a certain painter and decorator from Austria cornered that market, but this guy interests me.

Yes, thanks for that link Maoster, well worth the time.
Interesting chap indeed.

Our leaders and their owners appear have used Orwell’s book, 1984, not as a warning against the totalitarian state but instead as a handbook of how to achieve that goal.

Just perusing footage from the 2012 UK Olympics.Never interested in the sports tbh,but sweet jesus if that opening ceremony is not a pure example of a satanic ritual i don’t know what is :open_mouth: Lots of covid symbology including a blonde sack of lard writhing on hospital bed.Check the aerial shots of the stadium.Excorcist theme tune…talk about hiding in plain site :unamused:

the maoster:
Whilst I’m on a YouTube fest I’m liking this guy a lot. Yeah he could be the son of the lizard lover (I have no idea if he is btw) but I think that he’s worth a listen. Juddian you’ll certainly like the cut of his gib.

youtu.be/5yo6bFTjKnI

Edit to add; yes I’m aware that clever rhetoric can whip a crowd into a frenzy. I’m sure that a certain painter and decorator from Austria cornered that market, but this guy interests me.

Yep that’s icke jr,a fine yeoman of the parish.Good to see he’s finally ditched the ‘singha sungriha’ delusion and emerged from his fathers…considerable shadow :smiley: I think his dad can justifiably be claimed to be a founding father of the burgeoning truth movement.He built the path that others are continuously expanding and at considerable cost to his wellbeing.Any wealth he’s accrued in the interim is well deserved.He’s the most unpretentious dude you could ever meet,not a word-mincer in print-form,just a bulldozer of a research-journo who should be given vast respect.

The ‘Lizard’ tag he’s forever burdened with is a direct consequence of an ayahuasca,hallucinogenic experience he participated in, in the Brazilian rainforest,shortly before his Wogan encounter (he was at awakening stage).If you know anything of these psychotropic experiences then you can appreciate that EVERYTHING changes thereafter (majesterially).Perceptions are enhanced,ego’s are recalibrated a phenomenal,philosophical-intellectual and artistic juggernaut is unleashed especially from the high-calibre working class sons of England or America.Lennon-Mcartney,being prime examples in the artistic realm, and the world changes thus.
Icke’s work on the 9/11-psy-op is a classic,so good to see Gareth handling the baton,shame about that Ali-G type patois he’s adopted though :confused:

the maoster:
Whilst I’m on a YouTube fest I’m liking this guy a lot. Yeah he could be the son of the lizard lover (I have no idea if he is btw) but I think that he’s worth a listen. Juddian you’ll certainly like the cut of his gib.

youtu.be/5yo6bFTjKnI

Edit to add; yes I’m aware that clever rhetoric can whip a crowd into a frenzy. I’m sure that a certain painter and decorator from Austria cornered that market, but this guy interests me.

He’s a ■■■■■■■ nutjob.

manalishi:

the maoster:
Whilst I’m on a YouTube fest I’m liking this guy a lot. Yeah he could be the son of the lizard lover (I have no idea if he is btw) but I think that he’s worth a listen. Juddian you’ll certainly like the cut of his gib.

youtu.be/5yo6bFTjKnI

Edit to add; yes I’m aware that clever rhetoric can whip a crowd into a frenzy. I’m sure that a certain painter and decorator from Austria cornered that market, but this guy interests me.

Yep that’s icke jr,a fine yeoman of the parish.Good to see he’s finally ditched the ‘singha sungriha’ delusion and emerged from his fathers…considerable shadow :smiley: I think his dad can justifiably be claimed to be a founding father of the burgeoning truth movement.He built the path that others are continuously expanding and at considerable cost to his wellbeing.Any wealth he’s accrued in the interim is well deserved.He’s the most unpretentious dude you could ever meet,not a word-mincer in print-form,just a bulldozer of a research-journo who should be given vast respect.

The ‘Lizard’ tag he’s forever burdened with is a direct consequence of an ayahuasca,hallucinogenic experience he participated in, in the Brazilian rainforest,shortly before his Wogan encounter (he was at awakening stage).If you know anything of these psychotropic experiences then you can appreciate that EVERYTHING changes thereafter (majesterially).Perceptions are enhanced,ego’s are recalibrated a phenomenal,philosophical-intellectual and artistic juggernaut is unleashed especially from the high-calibre working class sons of England or America.Lennon-Mcartney,being prime examples in the artistic realm, and the world changes thus.
Icke’s work on the 9/11-psy-op is a classic,so good to see Gareth handling the baton,shame about that Ali-G type patois he’s adopted though :confused:

More and more of his early “mad rants” are making sense now, of course the mainstream media concentrate on the more extreme of his views, they have to in order to discredit the rest of it.

newmercman:

More and more of his early “mad rants” are making sense now, of course the mainstream media concentrate on the more extreme of his views, they have to in order to discredit the rest of it.[/quote

Em, no, he’s a nutcase.