Councillor calls for lorries to be banned from parts of Kent

He has not got the gumption.
We will probably get another faker troll from the tramp or dozy …Sadly…

thats you went and given him/them the idea now…ta

coincidentally they/he has/have all woken up at the same time now and multi posting elsewhere…we will know soon enough i suppose.

was going to Email this idiot then I thought why waste my time,people like him would probably laugh at any E mails sent to him,he’s had his moment of fame as such,he’s probably happy with that

The council man is an absolute idiot and ignorant.
I propose a one month ban of every type of lorry in all of Kent .
They would have something to moan about with factories shut, no fuel in the garages, people out of work and business bankruptcies.
What a tool for saying most of the lorries are transititing Kent.
So what if they are, road fund license is paid.
What about Belgium,France and Luxembourg, they are transit countries for much cheaper Eastern European hauliers.
We should all bombard this fools inbox, that he will need two weeks to read his email.

I live in Kent, luckily up a dead end so safe from you dirty truckers :grimacing:
What is happening a lot is the parking of the trucks is getting silly, come down the A/M2 coast bound just past Nells cafe and they all park in the old petrol station slip/exit normally right out onto the hard shoulder, then M20 Maidstone A229 exit they park on the roundabout blocking all views of oncoming traffic, I dont mind these as it means the camera van cant park up there!
They used to park on the large slip road off of the downside lane on Bluebell hill, but as usual made a mess and got the lane coned off, then they started to park in the bus stop the other side same result coned off.
Workmate lives down margate way and some sort of accident as truck parked on hard shoulder and the trailer was in the slip road, foggy morning car didnt see it and bang people dead.
I think you are all getting paranoid about trucks delivering the goods and others wanting to ban trucks in kent thats not going to happen and all the grown ups know that.
I dont thinks its Nimbys at work just ordinary people living in ordinary houses living ordinary lives having their lives ruined by inconsiderate people.

Think how many services toilets have been ■■■■■■ up by your truck driving comrades and imagine whats going to happen if they parked at the bottom of your garden!

Trickydick:
I live in Kent, luckily up a dead end so safe from you dirty truckers :grimacing:
What is happening a lot is the parking of the trucks is getting silly, come down the A/M2 coast bound just past Nells cafe and they all park in the old petrol station slip/exit normally right out onto the hard shoulder, then M20 Maidstone A229 exit they park on the roundabout blocking all views of oncoming traffic, I dont mind these as it means the camera van cant park up there!
They used to park on the large slip road off of the downside lane on Bluebell hill, but as usual made a mess and got the lane coned off, then they started to park in the bus stop the other side same result coned off.
Workmate lives down margate way and some sort of accident as truck parked on hard shoulder and the trailer was in the slip road, foggy morning car didnt see it and bang people dead.
I think you are all getting paranoid about trucks delivering the goods and others wanting to ban trucks in kent thats not going to happen and all the grown ups know that.
I dont thinks its Nimbys at work just ordinary people living in ordinary houses living ordinary lives having their lives ruined by inconsiderate people.

Think how many services toilets have been [zb] up by your truck driving comrades and imagine whats going to happen if they parked at the bottom of your garden!

The people of Kent have no one else to blame except themselves for the state of lorry parking in Kent. Every proposition that has been put forward by either the government or County Council to improve the parking facilities for HGV’s and therefore improve the situation for residents has been opposed by those very same residents whose life it would improve, until the people of Kent stop behaving like turkeys voting for Christmas the situation will not improve.

Mazzer2:

Trickydick:
I live in Kent, luckily up a dead end so safe from you dirty truckers :grimacing:
What is happening a lot is the parking of the trucks is getting silly, come down the A/M2 coast bound just past Nells cafe and they all park in the old petrol station slip/exit normally right out onto the hard shoulder, then M20 Maidstone A229 exit they park on the roundabout blocking all views of oncoming traffic, I dont mind these as it means the camera van cant park up there!
They used to park on the large slip road off of the downside lane on Bluebell hill, but as usual made a mess and got the lane coned off, then they started to park in the bus stop the other side same result coned off.
Workmate lives down margate way and some sort of accident as truck parked on hard shoulder and the trailer was in the slip road, foggy morning car didnt see it and bang people dead.
I think you are all getting paranoid about trucks delivering the goods and others wanting to ban trucks in kent thats not going to happen and all the grown ups know that.
I dont thinks its Nimbys at work just ordinary people living in ordinary houses living ordinary lives having their lives ruined by inconsiderate people.

Think how many services toilets have been [zb] up by your truck driving comrades and imagine whats going to happen if they parked at the bottom of your garden!

The people of Kent have no one else to blame except themselves for the state of lorry parking in Kent. Every proposition that has been put forward by either the government or County Council to improve the parking facilities for HGV’s and therefore improve the situation for residents has been opposed by those very same residents whose life it would improve, until the people of Kent stop behaving like turkeys voting for Christmas the situation will not improve.

Cant argue with that as its spot on, they have been dragging it out for years now.

so someone has said How many msa toilets have been abused by us truckers…i would say…the same amount as those travelling away fans of that wonderful game called Football. I think everything has been said about the reasons why we drive into kent…why we end up down country lanes, as its the same reason we drive anywhere, and everywhere, and down country lanes that are not suitable…all over the country…at least in other countries, especially France…all of the businesses have been put in to one industrial zone…and within that zone is an overnight parking facility with all the facilities a driver needs…and not a yellow line anywhere…this country needs to learn a lot…the actual word is ACCESS.

Its not just the residents of Kent.
ALL of our lives have changed over the last 40 years, our lives are constantly changing anyway but with the population growth of the country accelerating as it has since '97 when Brother Blair and his disciples decided to change the country forever and with the addition of the former east european countries to the EU, everything has changed at such a rate that one can barely recognise vast swathes of parts of the country where us plebs live.

Obviously the parts of the country owned and resided in by those who decided on and have benefited by these changes (financially, they are driven by money and power and can see no further than their wallets, mammon again), haven’t seen these changes to anything like the same degree.
Just take a drive out into the Cotwolds, apart from the increasingly ugly cars they drive little has changed since the 50’s, it will come as no shock that this is David Cameron’s home patch.

The rest of us, well, what i watched happening in the 70’s and then massively in the 80’s was the closure and demolition of factories and the local industry that supported them, lorry transport was entirely different back when i started, as recently as the 70’s, yes there were drivers and loads who travelled long distance, but an awful lot of transport was fairly local servicing the local industries, ie Northants boot and Shoe, Sheffield steel etc etc.

Now we no longer have those factories or area industries dotted over the entire country, or their smaller support factories and workshops, we have massive great warehouses and RDC’s blotting the previous fields, rammed to the rafters with foreign made tat.
These warehouses need little in the way of localish support factories, their stock is transported in from one of the several docks via container, or it comes in, together with thousands of tons of food (whilst we pay our farmers to provide meadows for wild flowers, just before we concrete over them to provide more houses due to immigration, or another bloody warehouse) via the various ports, the obvious heaviest used route is via Kent.

We have at least 10 million too many people in the country, and it could be as much as 15 or more million, no one really knows and if they do no one is prepared to say or report the truth.
It’s all over i’m afraid, out islands are overcrowded particularly England, it didn’t matter before because only the unimportant plebs like us were really affected, but now there’s a fuss because the well heeled…ie those not rich enough to join Cameron/the elite/pop stars/MPs’ living the life of rielly in one of the few last untouched areas of England.

It’s now affecting those who think themselves middle class, and they don’t like it, but like us plebs they are powerless to do anything about it, they don’t have access to or own the correct ear to breathe instructions into.

So, as in Kent and this councillor chap jumping up and down, and i don’t blame them or him one bit, are trying in vain to salvage a little peace and quiet before they shove off this mortal coil, unfortunately for them they have joined the rest of us plebs as only being of any importance the few days before an election.

Those who own the country, own the land, own the political parties don’t care about our peace, they have divided and ruled as they always do and always will.
Whilst we simple folk might think of others and look further ahead than the next £billion deal or power grab, those in charge don’t.

The proposed Operation Stack truck parking at an airfield was rejected by the Government as an environmental report was not handed in as the planners thought it would not be required .
So now thousands of trucks have to park on the motorway with no toilet , when Stack is in operation .
I think the airfield site could have taken a few thousand trucks .
The UK is a national disgrace in how drivers are treated, new warehouses being built, the size of airport hangars, but no parking allowed on site in these new areas .

For example, going North on the M1, before you see the big shopping mall, on your left, look at all that space doing nothing, where a big factory has been demolished and shut down, how many wagons could you get in there ?
Southampton, Felixstowe, Tilbury and Ipswich, every where there , no over night parking, no parking, no nothing for worldwide ports.

In Spain, near Pamplona, off the toll motorway, they have truck city, a big development for road transport, from tyre depots, Customs clearance, cafes, bars, restaurants, mechanics, garages and tow firms, all out the way of residential areas .
If you are feeling lucky, call a taxi for a ride to the local bag house for another ride . :smiley:

45 hours off in a sleeper cab is now illegal and a 300 quid fine, so who is fining the EE drivers on their weekly rest, in a layby with no toilet and facilities to wash ?
And clamping was made illegal many years ago, so why are trucks being clamped on certain roads in the area ?

Juddian:
Its not just the residents of Kent.
ALL of our lives have changed over the last 40 years, our lives are constantly changing anyway but with the population growth of the country accelerating as it has since '97 when Brother Blair and his disciples decided to change the country forever and with the addition of the former east european countries to the EU, everything has changed at such a rate that one can barely recognise vast swathes of parts of the country where us plebs live.

Obviously the parts of the country owned and resided in by those who decided on and have benefited by these changes (financially, they are driven by money and power and can see no further than their wallets, mammon again), haven’t seen these changes to anything like the same degree.
Just take a drive out into the Cotwolds, apart from the increasingly ugly cars they drive little has changed since the 50’s, it will come as no shock that this is David Cameron’s home patch.

Surely that just adds weight to the idea that it’s not just an issue of over population and silly changes in industrial landscape.It’s also an issue of the distribution of even that.IE Devon,Hampshire,the North East and Eastern counties have all got major port facilities linking Europe and UK but it’s only Kent and the South East that seems to be getting hit with a massive disproportionate amount of those transport needs.While all those other ports go underused with a resulting massive disproportionate amount of demand on Kent’s if not the South East’s ability to cater for that inbalance.In which case if the councillor in question is that bothered then get on board with those of us who are saying that the South East has already taken more than its fair share of everything from housing the country’s population to providing road routes and parking for its trucks and airspace and airports for its air transport needs.Let alone trying to inflict more on the place.

dozy:
You can’t ban all lorries but you could look is it necessary to send the amount that go there , I would sent into a few weeks ago , booked in , gave paper work to forkie , he loads me and shouts done driv , 5 pallets :exclamation: , 5 , yes driv I checked as I thought you lost some paper work , but no it was 4 but got order for 1 more .
it was just a general product , nothing special , I dragged it 4 ish hours up the road to be told it was due in until later so drop it on the fence .
could they of consolidated that load , saved a Lorry in Kent , how many more lorrys do what I did , I don’t think you can ban lorries but look at are all journeys into Kent neccesary , firms working together would be a start , are the reciever of the goods so desperate they couldn’t wait a day for those 5 pallets to be consolidated into a full load

Shhhhh…Careful dozy, you’re sounding far too sensible…Which is, of course, why none of this will ever happen. :open_mouth: :cry: :cry:

Personally i think the industry as a whole should just bycott the area totally. This includes supermarkets and fuel deliveries. Or just call there bluff and shovit all on sprinters 26 to an artic. And put tachos in them all they can then park up in the restricted areas as they have a 5 tonne weight limit. Personally ill refuse to go any where in kent.

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Trickydick:
I live in Kent, luckily up a dead end so safe from you dirty truckers :grimacing:
What is happening a lot is the parking of the trucks is getting silly, come down the A/M2 coast bound just past Nells cafe and they all park in the old petrol station slip/exit normally right out onto the hard shoulder, then M20 Maidstone A229 exit they park on the roundabout blocking all views of oncoming traffic, I dont mind these as it means the camera van cant park up there!
They used to park on the large slip road off of the downside lane on Bluebell hill, but as usual made a mess and got the lane coned off, then they started to park in the bus stop the other side same result coned off.
Workmate lives down margate way and some sort of accident as truck parked on hard shoulder and the trailer was in the slip road, foggy morning car didnt see it and bang people dead.

Lorry driver arrested after A2 crash kills three men between Canterbury and Faversham This was a pretty bad one, to do with “Badly parked in Layby” as well.

I think you are all getting paranoid about trucks delivering the goods and others wanting to ban trucks in kent thats not going to happen and all the grown ups know that.
I dont thinks its Nimbys at work just ordinary people living in ordinary houses living ordinary lives having their lives ruined by inconsiderate people.

Think how many services toilets have been [zb] up by your truck driving comrades and imagine whats going to happen if they parked at the bottom of your garden!

Instead of making the “old” A2 dual carriageway near Nell’s Cafe into that grassy knoll like they have - perhaps it would have been better as a huge layby for trucks only.
That means NO bloody caravans with oil drums and stirrup pumps in them allowed!

Juddian:
Its not just the residents of Kent.
ALL of our lives have changed over the last 40 years, our lives are constantly changing anyway but with the population growth of the country accelerating as it has since '97 when Brother Blair and his disciples decided to change the country forever and with the addition of the former east european countries to the EU, everything has changed at such a rate that one can barely recognise vast swathes of parts of the country where us plebs live.

Obviously the parts of the country owned and resided in by those who decided on and have benefited by these changes (financially, they are driven by money and power and can see no further than their wallets, mammon again), haven’t seen these changes to anything like the same degree.
Just take a drive out into the Cotwolds, apart from the increasingly ugly cars they drive little has changed since the 50’s, it will come as no shock that this is David Cameron’s home patch.

The rest of us, well, what i watched happening in the 70’s and then massively in the 80’s was the closure and demolition of factories and the local industry that supported them, lorry transport was entirely different back when i started, as recently as the 70’s, yes there were drivers and loads who travelled long distance, but an awful lot of transport was fairly local servicing the local industries, ie Northants boot and Shoe, Sheffield steel etc etc.

Now we no longer have those factories or area industries dotted over the entire country, or their smaller support factories and workshops, we have massive great warehouses and RDC’s blotting the previous fields, rammed to the rafters with foreign made tat.
These warehouses need little in the way of localish support factories, their stock is transported in from one of the several docks via container, or it comes in, together with thousands of tons of food (whilst we pay our farmers to provide meadows for wild flowers, just before we concrete over them to provide more houses due to immigration, or another bloody warehouse) via the various ports, the obvious heaviest used route is via Kent.

We have at least 10 million too many people in the country, and it could be as much as 15 or more million, no one really knows and if they do no one is prepared to say or report the truth.
It’s all over i’m afraid, out islands are overcrowded particularly England, it didn’t matter before because only the unimportant plebs like us were really affected, but now there’s a fuss because the well heeled…ie those not rich enough to join Cameron/the elite/pop stars/MPs’ living the life of rielly in one of the few last untouched areas of England.

It’s now affecting those who think themselves middle class, and they don’t like it, but like us plebs they are powerless to do anything about it, they don’t have access to or own the correct ear to breathe instructions into.

So, as in Kent and this councillor chap jumping up and down, and i don’t blame them or him one bit, are trying in vain to salvage a little peace and quiet before they shove off this mortal coil, unfortunately for them they have joined the rest of us plebs as only being of any importance the few days before an election.

Those who own the country, own the land, own the political parties don’t care about our peace, they have divided and ruled as they always do and always will.
Whilst we simple folk might think of others and look further ahead than the next £billion deal or power grab, those in charge don’t.

Spot on 100% true.Well said .

Again with this forum getting totally bent out of shape with the comments like I won’t deliver to Kent ( yes you will you will go where your told I’d put money on it ) let Kent starve or if you buy it it goes on a truck as if we are doing people a favour we are not we are getting paid to carry the goods. This isn’t a problem that is solely a Kent problem I’m sure Lincolnshire has a similar problem but as it’s more flat and open villages are generally not so tight . in Kent we have a large number of fruit pack houses in the middle of nowhere which have large amount of deliveries and collections from uk and foreign vehicles who generally are following a sat nav to these sites which more often or not are car sat navs or set to the shortest route taking them down completely unsuitable roads . A simple look on a map would tell them that there is a suitable route but is a mile or two longer . You can’t expect people to be happy to be getting property damaged when we are to lazy to either buy a correct sat nav look at a map or simply follow the black signs that most of the pack houses have paid to have installed .

Obviously the parts of the country owned and resided in by those who decided on and have benefited by these changes (financially, they are driven by money and power and can see no further than their wallets, mammon again), haven’t seen these changes to anything like the same degree.
Just take a drive out into the Cotwolds, apart from the increasingly ugly cars they drive little has changed since the 50’s, it will come as no shock that this is David Cameron’s home patch.

Not sure why you can say the Cotswolds have actually benefited… We had nothing to start with.

There was NEVER any heavy industry here, so there were NEVER large population numbers. To think everything has been kept the same because royalty and politicians live here is not something I believe.

Quite what happens to the existing agricultural workforce when the farming subsidies cease is going to be interesting, as a lot of the farms are unprofitable already.

Blair presumably hoped that the influx of foreign workers would one day be voting Labour. They ain’t. Speaking among EE colleagues at work, they either don’t give a toss about UK politics, or they vote for one of their own people that might be standing in a local election, which tends to be “council” rather than Worstmonster MPs.

Meanwhile, over the past few decades as Juddian was referring to - we now have an entire generation of young PUPs (Potentially Unwanted People) who have left “education” not knowing how to sew on a button, fix an old banger, or do anything involving more than texting with thumbs - creating this huge gap in the labour market that yes, indeed - DOES need to be filled by EEs.

I think I was banging on about this a few weeks ago - this concept that we really need to separate the “decent” immigrants (EE’s) from the flotsam ones (Fake Refugees, Militants, etc) that, if they are working - are working in the black economy, and paying precious little into our system which you can bet they’ll be pumping for everything they can get out of it, including compensation payments as and when the opportunity arises.

One good thing though - You never see one of the “Badduns” as I’ve just described driving a truck into the country or bothering you in a layby… so far.

Miraculous things could come about in this country, if we ordinary workers could find ourselves joining forces with the EE workforce, rather than the Liberal Elite and Champagne Socialist’s every political argument made about “Immigrants” being deflected away from the fakes, and onto the EEs where it wasn’t supposed to be directed in the first place. Even Nigel Farage has now got people phoning in on his show denouncing the fake immigrants hiding among their own local communities - the caller being immigrant/of ethnic background/Muslim , which just goes to show that we really do need to distill good people everywhere, of every colour, creed, and nationality - from the badduns, which also, of course - include those of our own colour and background that we call “Brudders”. :neutral_face:

Dover Harbour Board operate 24 hours a day as does the Tunnel. How many Kentish people benefit from that for their wages? Not just the ferry staff and dockers. There are still many agencies based in Kent. Maintenance contracts for ships and trains. International Rail Freight at Dollands Moor. Warehouses and Factories, pack houses and Bluewater. The planners of the day allowed DHB to close the parking area and due to security there has never been enough parking at the UK side of the tunnel. Another major problem is illegal immigrants in Belgium and France. Years ago, you could park in Calais for your rest and ship over in the morning, now you ship over and find the lorry park is full, drivers hours are up and we have to park somewhere. Kent has the benefit of low unemployment due to road transport and lorry drivers.