robroy:
Well at least I can sort out who has said what, and set out quotes correctly when I respond.
I think you must have missed the point, and barely read the post,.and you were triggered by a word/term, and had to say your thing no matter whatâŚyada yada.
Still stand by what I said btw. (the ACTUAL quote of mine, not your interpretation )
The forum is acting a bit weird lately, quoting the wrong people, creating double posts when trying to edit so I wonât try to fix it. All I had to do is sign an A4 printout highlighting the infingement which as far as I understand is a legal requirement for the operator to make me aware of it and that was that, about 5 seconds of my time. Oh the bureaucracy in these big firms! Imagine that - amber light came on for the engine, I reported it and had to FILL OUT A DEFECT REPORT SHEET! More time wasted - my life slipping away, one minute at a time. Btw the guy who handed me the printout to sign - doesnât have a clue about driving hours etc (not a HGV driver himself) - all that happens is an automated system brings these up (when scanning driver card at start/end of shift), then someone has to hit âPrintâ, find out which printer they got printed on and then ask the driver to sign it. But hey who knows, maybe thatâs the first step to â â â â tests before work so letâs rise up, brothers!
robroy:
Well at least I can sort out who has said what, and set out quotes correctly when I respond.
I think you must have missed the point, and barely read the post,.and you were triggered by a word/term, and had to say your thing no matter whatâŚyada yada.
Still stand by what I said btw. (the ACTUAL quote of mine, not your interpretation )
The forum is acting a bit weird lately, quoting the wrong people, creating double posts when trying to edit so I wonât try to fix it. All I had to do is sign an A4 printout highlighting the infingement which as far as I understand is a legal requirement for the operator to make me aware of it and that was that, about 5 seconds of my time. Oh the bureaucracy in these big firms! Imagine that - amber light came on for the engine, I reported it and had to FILL OUT A DEFECT REPORT SHEET! More time wasted - my life slipping away, one minute at a time. Btw the guy who handed me the printout to sign - doesnât have a clue about driving hours etc (not a HGV driver himself) - all that happens is an automated system brings these up (when scanning driver card at start/end of shift), then someone has to hit âPrintâ, find out which printer they got printed on and then ask the driver to sign it. But hey who knows, maybe thatâs the first step to â â â â tests before work so letâs rise up, brothers!
Well at least you got those minutes back ârebelliouslyâ, that you told us about in your o/p.
Btw, Youâre right I reckon you should be rising up , âŚif theyâre implementing ââ â â â Testsâ ., as well as everything else.
Christ it has got bad at your place.
Rather than worry about consequences, what about root cause? If you were so tired you could conk out for 45 minutes, you were probably too tired to remember to change the tacho (or even to be driving). Also, maybe have the coffee and have a nap while the caffeine kicks in?
Noremac:
Rather than worry about consequences, what about root cause? If you were so tired you could conk out for 45 minutes, you were probably too tired to remember to change the tacho (or even to be driving). Also, maybe have the coffee and have a nap while the caffeine kicks in?
Fair point but the reason I take 50-60 min breaks is not because Iâm too tired but because I canât fall asleep right away. I usually need 10-15mins to just lay there while the ringing in my ears goes away and slowly transition to that half-asleep state for another 5-10 mins, then itâs solid sleep for the remaining 20-30 mins. Coffee before that would surely mess up the last, important part namely solid sleep. 9 times out of 10 I wake up on my own - 1 min before the alarm rings.
Noremac:
Rather than worry about consequences, what about root cause? If you were so tired you could conk out for 45 minutes, you were probably too tired to remember to change the tacho (or even to be driving). Also, maybe have the coffee and have a nap while the caffeine kicks in?
Fair point but the reason I take 50-60 min breaks is not because Iâm too tired but because I canât fall asleep right away. I usually need 10-15mins to just lay there while the ringing in my ears goes away and slowly transition to that half-asleep state for another 5-10 mins, then itâs solid sleep for the remaining 20-30 mins. Coffee before that would surely mess up the last, important part namely solid sleep. 9 times out of 10 I wake up on my own - 1 min before the alarm rings.
Same here, thatâs ONE of the reasons I believe 9 hours off after a 15 hour shift is just not enough, despite what the ââI only need 6 hours kip meââ heroes say.
Itâs like all the ret of it in this jobâŚ, 45 min breaks, 9 hours rest, 11 hours rest, and the 24/45 weekend rests.
They ainât targets they are minimum LIMITS, despite what these co.s try to brainwash drivers into believing (and succeed in many cases )
If I feel like an hourâs break, feeling tired, Iâll take an hour,.same as daily rests, if I feel like more Iâll take more, the â â â â world wonât end if Iâm 10 mins late arriving refreshed instead of â â â â ed out.
Itâs your licence and more importantly your life if you succumb to fatigue.
Cue the heroes.
Isnât it just a question of signing it"break taken away from vehicle"
I remember splitting my break in two,15 and a 30.I forgot both times to select break,I just signed them and nothing was said
(the ACTUAL quote of mine, not your interpretation
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., as well as everything else.