Cat C test yesterday, failed reverse

My clutch leg was shaking like a wooden building during an earthquake during the reverse. Had been doing them fine all week but under pressure its a different story.

I was very lucky to pass as I didn’t dare take it too far back in to the bay in case my leg had an almighty twitch at the wrong time sending me through the barrier so just squeaked in but it could easily have gone the other way.

I had to watch two other people go before me also which was torture. The first lad did it OK, the second took the B cone clean out.

IMO the reverse should be a separate module. Fully appreciate why you only get one attempt but if you pass the drive then you should only have to come back and do the reverse and vice versa.

danthetrucker:
IMO the reverse should be a separate module. Fully appreciate why you only get one attempt but if you pass the drive then you should only have to come back and do the reverse and vice versa.

I agree danthetrucker, that would be a good idea.

I think it was just nerves with me too, I was fine right up until the examiner asked me a few questions then my mouth went completely dry. I couldnt work up a drop of saliva till about halfway through the drive and could barely answer his ‘chit chat’! :laughing: Its certainly not like me to be so nervous…

Im going to ask my instructor to let me try the tips mentioned by others here on the morning before the test. Maybe I put so much left lock on as I started to move that I left myself too much to do to get away from the line…

My 1st Cat C was cancelled we got to test centre al fine examiner came out asked me the questions so far so good took lorry up had it in position about to start reverse when a knock on the door to say it was cancelled due to the snow that had fallen form me driving the lorry down to position you could not see the lines on the ground this was the 1st day we had snow it cleared before tea time had hardly any more all winter after that

This also happened to me on 3 of my C+E test intact 1 was cancelled before I got out of the trainers yard

danthetrucker:
My clutch leg was shaking like a wooden building during an earthquake during the reverse. Had been doing them fine all week but under pressure its a different story.

I was very lucky to pass as I didn’t dare take it too far back in to the bay in case my leg had an almighty twitch at the wrong time sending me through the barrier so just squeaked in but it could easily have gone the other way.

I had to watch two other people go before me also which was torture. The first lad did it OK, the second took the B cone clean out.

I was the same with nervous but I just asked examiner if I could just pop out for two mins and take my jumper off which was just me trying to settle my nervous!

My first time sitting my CPC the lassie in front me took out Cone B & Cones down side! All you heard the examiners saying ‘Well that be our cones!’ She was doing her B + E which was worrying.

ScottishChris:

Owen:
Have my test Monday, did some reversing on Wed and just couldn’t get it right really bugged me because I can do it easily when im not nervous. Did some more practice today and used the two shunts where I needed too( After a few goes didn’t really need to use them). I found I was trying to get as close to the yellow line as possible but then was too worried about crossing it so ended up concentrating on it to much. Today I stayed a little bit away from the yellow line so as that I had a little space for error and it took the pressure off.
Also don’t forget about your two shunts I felt when I took into consideration I had these too correct myself it helped so much. Just my tupence hope it helps

Did you pass■■?

im just going out the door now for a re test nerves got the better of me totally messed up.

Just back home after a second failed test :cry: Nailed the reverse with one wee shunt, nice enough drive then as I pulled out onto a roundabout in the right gear and position on approach (fully commited) there was only one black saloon car approaching the roundabout from the right, he was waaaaaay back from the give way lines as I pulled out, but must have been hammering it (well above the 30mph speed limit) he scorched onto the roundabout, got right up my back end and started honking his horn :imp:

4 minors again, gutted and really mad that I got the blame for his crappy driving :open_mouth:
What else could I have done in that situation? :cry:
In for a retest again asap, this is getting expensive :unamused:

MrsMac:
Just back home after a second failed test :cry: Nailed the reverse with one wee shunt, nice enough drive then as I pulled out onto a roundabout in the right gear and position on approach (fully commited) there was only one black saloon car approaching the roundabout from the right, he was waaaaaay back from the give way lines as I pulled out, but must have been hammering it (well above the 30mph speed limit) he scorched onto the roundabout, got right up my back end and started honking his horn :imp:

4 minors again, gutted and really mad that I got the blame for his crappy driving :open_mouth:
What else could I have done in that situation? :cry:
In for a retest again asap, this is getting expensive :unamused:

Stopped before the give way line or at least extra slowed before committing to see what black car was going to do

Black car probably straight lined the roundabout which therefore enabled it to keep up a higher speed - its one of those things that experience enables you to be aware of as a possibility no matter what vehicle you are driving

I hear what you’re saying Rog, I was already on the roundabout (cab about 3 feet from it) as he approached (I had a last extra look right as I was already moving) so couldnt do anything other than keep going :confused:

Ah well :frowning:

MrsMac:
so couldnt do anything other than keep going :confused:

no disrespect meant, but if your only option was to keep going, you were going to fast for the junction. Dont beat yourself up over it though, everyone has done it.

One of the things that bothers me with any training is that very few instructors tell you what you should be thinking whilst doing these tests.

Yea we should be thinking about a lot of things and we should know them but whats the thought process we should adopt for stopping at traffic lights for example. Seperate from the drill of all round checks, mirror signal manouver although these are included if course. Theres a lot more than simoke checks goes into each manouver and i often wonder if ive thought it all through prooerly!!

Might be over conokicating it tho!! Lol!!

I do it without thinking in the car and on the bike( although my thoughts are usually a little more urgent on the bike :blush: )

Maybe pete could explain a few things or maybe its irrelevant and cant be taught.

Might help some get a list of things in the mind to check for certain basic situations. At worst if you can get the easy stuff spot on you have more minors to save for the tricky/unexoected stuff!!

arthurmeadowfield:
One of the things that bothers me with any training is that very few instructors tell you what you should be thinking whilst doing these tests.

That would be bordering on advanced driving where all the options and reasonably possible outcomes would be considered and to be honest that would be a lot to take in if the driver does not already have those skills which could easily be done using their own car before they start and licence upgrade course

Personally I would recommend all those going for LGV to do the reasonably cheap (compare to LGV training price) advanced course in their own car first which would then make LGV training so much easier

Might help some get a list of things in the mind to check for certain basic situations. At worst if you can get the easy stuff spot on you have more minors to save for the tricky/unexoected stuff!!

The fact you’re in a relatively big vehicle doesn’t alter what’s happening on the road. But your reactions have to be tuned to deal with the situations bearing in mind the vehicle you’re in.

If, for instance, you’re approaching a roundabout on a fast motorbike, you would be ill-advised to enter the roundabout if another vehicle would have to slow down. Indeed, this would be suicide. Exactly the same principle applies if you’re in a car, truck, bus, tractor; enter the roundabout if no-one will be hindered as a result. Don’t enter if this isn’t the case.

As ROG said, a car going straight ahead at a roundabout will often straight line the roundabout. This means he can maintain a higher speed - something you must allow for before going for it.

I hate relating stuff just to passing/failing a test. But, in this particular case, I’ll relent. Few folks fail a test for hesitation. You would have to sit and eat your sarnies before it’s gonna happen. But all to many fail because they think they’re under pressure to make progress. This results in folks pulling out when they shouldn’t - - and often know very well they shouldn’t. This will always attract a serious mark for observation. The pressure is not to make progress, it is to make SAFE progress. And pulling onto roundabouts and slowing anyone down isn’t safe.

Whilst on the subject, a pet hate of mine is the trainee blaming folks for not signalling on a roundabout. So what? If someone hasn’t got a signal on, this means they are going straight ahead ie across your front bumper. Therefore, don’t go. Now if they turn off at the junction before yours without a signal, shame. No mark will be made against you on a test. Why would it? Conversely, if someone has their left signal on before they get to the exit before yours and then fails to leave the roundabout, it’s possible you could move out slowing them down and not attract any mark. But if their position and/or speed give it away as potentially an incorrect signal, then an examiner would be correct in marking a serious for observation. So if someone’s on the roundabout, belting round, and have their left signal on for a smallish exit, I wouldn’t pull out. And no mark for hesitation would be given btw.

The same basic principles of proper driving apply to all classes of vehicle. Just adapt them to the size of your vehicle bearing in mind it’s acceleration and braking characteristics.

Hope this helps, Pete :laughing: :laughing:

Thanks Pete :slight_smile:
When I thought more about it later, I think I was over conscious of the ‘undue hesitation’ aspect and thats what influenced me :blush: I blame myself for the fail, I was driving after all! :laughing:

I did laugh at your comment on practically having to sit and eat your sarnies to get penalised for hesitation :laughing: :laughing:

MrsMac:

danthetrucker:
IMO the reverse should be a separate module. Fully appreciate why you only get one attempt but if you pass the drive then you should only have to come back and do the reverse and vice versa.

I agree danthetrucker, that would be a good idea.

I think it was just nerves with me too, I was fine right up until the examiner asked me a few questions then my mouth went completely dry. I couldnt work up a drop of saliva till about halfway through the drive and could barely answer his ‘chit chat’! :laughing: Its certainly not like me to be so nervous…

Im going to ask my instructor to let me try the tips mentioned by others here on the morning before the test. Maybe I put so much left lock on as I started to move that I left myself too much to do to get away from the line…

I see where you’re coming from, but then we’d end up with about ten different modules to the test to please everyone, then this would need to be filtered down to every class of vehicle to make things fair. It’d end up being an administrational nightmare.

Administrational. Nice word Paul.

eagerbeaver:
Administrational. Nice word Paul.

I’m full of them, amongst other things bud