if I was your boss,id be telling you to pick a side…with your continuing employment relating to your decision.(unofficially of course),if you kept working there,then youd be getting the dung work till you chucked it,assuming you were still moonlighting…and show some loyalty to the job that’s keeping you off the dole.
I would say over 80-90% of most peoples contracts will have some form of requires permission to moonlight clause in their contract!
employers can put it under their duty of care for example so working time etc woudlnt even come into it nor driving hours.
having said that as a boss i would be well ■■■■■■ off you have left that company for whatever reason to come work for me then moonlight back at the old company.
wonder who i would pick if i needed to get rid of someone all of a sudden, and yes work is great at present but Jan and Feb are still somewhat of a gamble in a good few areas.
war1974:
as a boss i would be well ■■■■■■ off you have left that company for whatever reason to come work for me then moonlight back at the old company.
Why?
If the bloke’s doing the job he’s paid to do in a timely and competent manner what would it have to do with you if he’s also working for another (provide he’s keeping within regs), it’s not like you’ve both made your vows in church is it?
I don’t know how many people you employ as a boss but to keep things simple let’s say you employ two people - Fred & Mick.
If Mick comes to you and says “I think you should sack Fred and pay me at overtime rate to do his job as well” how would you react (I’d make a 2 word reply beginning and ending in f).
Quite a lot of bosses employ more than one person - it’s not often seen as disloyalty. Why should it be seen as such when a person has more than one employer? - really, tell me, because I don’t get it.
I work for more than one employer and employer A really doesn’t have a problem with me working weekends (or other)for employer B even though they often have work available, they accept that B pays twice as much as they do for a weekend shift. The work is always covered even if Mr A drives the bus himself.
On the other hand if the work I do for B started to interfere with the work I’m contracted to do for A, I would expect to be shown the door very quickly. Of course I wouldn’t allow that conflict of interest to happen in the first place.
Everyone’s doing and paying what they agreed to and not expecting any more or any less and this can continue untill someone starts to demand more or delivers less.
dekka:
war1974:
as a boss i would be well ■■■■■■ off you have left that company for whatever reason to come work for me then moonlight back at the old company.Why?
If the bloke’s doing the job he’s paid to do in a timely and competent manner what would it have to do with you if he’s also working for another (provide he’s keeping within regs), it’s not like you’ve both made your vows in church is it?
I don’t know how many people you employ as a boss but to keep things simple let’s say you employ two people - Fred & Mick.
If Mick comes to you and says “I think you should sack Fred and pay me at overtime rate to do his job as well” how would you react (I’d make a 2 word reply beginning and ending in f).Quite a lot of bosses employ more than one person - it’s not often seen as disloyalty. Why should it be seen as such when a person has more than one employer? - really, tell me, because I don’t get it.
I work for more than one employer and employer A really doesn’t have a problem with me working weekends (or other)for employer B even though they often have work available, they accept that B pays twice as much as they do for a weekend shift. The work is always covered even if Mr A drives the bus himself.
On the other hand if the work I do for B started to interfere with the work I’m contracted to do for A, I would expect to be shown the door very quickly. Of course I wouldn’t allow that conflict of interest to happen in the first place.Everyone’s doing and paying what they agreed to and not expecting any more or any less and this can continue untill someone starts to demand more or delivers less.
his boss does have an issue with it that was the whole point of the original post! 
and yes lots of people employ more than one person but not that many have a full time job then work at other firms without having to gain permission first.
so you get told by employer b, i cant give you extra hours or a pay rise and may have to make cuts. so you toodle off to employer a who says oh ok i can give you what you want come and work for me, you then go and thanks employer a by saying (or not saying in this OP’s case) thanks for that by the way your weekend rate is ■■■■ so am off to my old boss for a few extra quid on a weekend.
youre ■■■■ right as an employer i would have an issue.
you can look at it either way but my point is enough drivers bang the drum on here about LOYALTY etc and most would drop their pants for a tenner a week more, loyalty goes both ways and will working for someone on a weekend pay all the bills? i think not.
Roymondo:
Why does everything earned at the second job have to be taxed at 40%?The info at taxaid.org.uk/guides/information … bspensions
appears to say that it’s up to you to tell HMRC if you are likely to earn more than £42k from both jobs (and thus be liable to pay tax at higher rate).
If you register as self employed then they send you a tax return to complete (self assesment). You will not be required to provide any proof of earnings and you will only pay higher rate tax on anything over the threshold. Also (this is from a family member who works for HMRC) when they check your assesment it will not be questioned as long as it looks about right!
What I was getting at before was, why on earth would his boss have a problem?
How could it affect him? The hours aren`t an issue.
So is it just a boss being bloody minded?