What a brilliant idea, take loads of unaccompanied kids into the UK care system then three months down the line, lo an behold hordes of alleged close family crawl out of the woodwork demanding the right to join ‘my children’ in the UK. ie ‘right to family life’. 
Carryfast:
tommy t:
If i had the money i would move to Australia at least they have the balls to f them offIt’s a bit more complicated than that.Even with their ‘rules’ they are still deliberately gradually turning the place into a majority non Brit demographic.A bit like Canada in that regard.
Well the way things are going largely down to the dumb asses that run countries in the west, we either fight to keep our identity (by any means) or we bend over and get assimilated into something unsavoury , we 4 a start need to elect non eton toffs to run this country, we need those who have not been fed from the silver spoon, those who have had to work to survive, those who know what uncontrolled immigration can do, those who know just how dumb it really is to be so tolerant of
religious nut-cases of all persuasions, those that live here from countries afar, should abide by our laws and cultures and dress the same or similar to us, at school and in any public place, so no obscuring of the face school uniforms without exception , if they aren’t happy with these mandatory requirements then they could always leave this country , oh and those who wish to go and support ISIS ect , any citizen ship /passport is nuked as soon as they leave this country , and they will be barred from returning , should they manage to return and are subsequently detected they can be terminated on sight
''any citizen ship /passport is nuked as soon as they leave this country , and they will be barred from returning ,
What part of them would be left to try to get back in ? 
tommy t:
i hate that word “British” , I’m English and there is a big difference imo
+1.That difference will be ever more important as time goes on.The issue then being the ever widening gap and inconsistency between indigenous English v foreign ‘British’ in terms of demographics and who rules country.It seems obvious that democracy is no longer going to work in that environment.Either for the foreign immigrant cultures or our own.We’re then into the realms of the issues of internal borders to account for the normal human condition of self determination.IE we’re English in just the same way that Slovenes aren’t Bosnians. 
While unfortunately even the military around Europe has been indoctrinated with the Socialist ideology regarding the immigration question.When by now it would have been expected to have taken control of border controls and immigration policy from dodgy government policies and motives like Merkel’s,on the basis of keeping the problem out rather than helping to let it in. 
That is the really scary part in all this.
raymundo:
''any citizen ship /passport is nuked as soon as they leave this country , and they will be barred from returning ,What part of them would be left to try to get back in ?
Nuked as in revoked ,like it never existed and that info circulated to all allies, many go only to train & not actually fight,
tommy t:
Radar19:
Someone think of the children!Call to admit refugee children 'considered' by government - BBC News
oh yeah that’s the latest scam that they are using . why should the tax payer have to pay for their well-being and upkeep until they are 18yrs old, because we all know that they will never be repatriated, they will become British citizens too, hence why i hate that word “British” , I’m English and there is a big difference imo
Yeh. Daft thing is, one is made to feel guilty for “being British” when one is actually English - but all the stops are out for “getting past the English to become British” - which is what are daft rulers are setting up for all these people around the world.
It didn’t work last time around - so why should it work this time?
tommy t:
Well the way things are going largely down to the dumb asses that run countries in the west, we either fight to keep our identity (by any means) or we bend over and get assimilated into something unsavoury , we 4 a start need to elect non eton toffs to run this country, we need those who have not been fed from the silver spoon, those who have had to work to survive, those who know what uncontrolled immigration can do, those who know just how dumb it really is to be so tolerant of
religious nut-cases of all persuasions, those that live here from countries afar, should abide by our laws and cultures and dress the same or similar to us, at school and in any public place, so no obscuring of the face school uniforms without exception , if they aren’t happy with these mandatory requirements then they could always leave this country , oh and those who wish to go and support ISIS ect , any citizen ship /passport is nuked as soon as they leave this country , and they will be barred from returning , should they manage to return and are subsequently detected they can be terminated on sight
As much as despise the toffy nosed tw4ts that run our country, strangely enough they would seem the more likely to preserve british values and keep our borders closed as best they can (and yes, I agree they are still letting too many in) … if it was down to the far left and the likes of Corbyn then they would just open the gates and let everyone in.
On a slightly wider note … what do others think of the proposal to allow up to 3000 unaccompanied children in; if for instance we were collecting orphaned under 10year olds from camps on the Syrian border and fostering them with british families and bringing them up as full british citizens ? It certainly far from ideal but I doubt I would be objecting, and this is a very different view point that I have towards the huge gangs of so called refugees roaming across europe demanding everything, I would give those lot nowt.
Bluey Circles:
tommy t:
Well the way things are going largely down to the dumb asses that run countries in the west, we either fight to keep our identity (by any means) or we bend over and get assimilated into something unsavoury , we 4 a start need to elect non eton toffs to run this country, we need those who have not been fed from the silver spoon, those who have had to work to survive, those who know what uncontrolled immigration can do, those who know just how dumb it really is to be so tolerant of
religious nut-cases of all persuasions, those that live here from countries afar, should abide by our laws and cultures and dress the same or similar to us, at school and in any public place, so no obscuring of the face school uniforms without exception , if they aren’t happy with these mandatory requirements then they could always leave this country , oh and those who wish to go and support ISIS ect , any citizen ship /passport is nuked as soon as they leave this country , and they will be barred from returning , should they manage to return and are subsequently detected they can be terminated on sightAs much as despise the toffy nosed tw4ts that run our country, strangely enough they would seem the more likely to preserve british values and keep our borders closed as best they can (and yes, I agree they are still letting too many in) … if it was down to the far left and the likes of Corbyn then they would just open the gates and let everyone in.
On a slightly wider note … what do others think of the proposal to allow up to 3000 unaccompanied children in; if for instance we were collecting orphaned under 10year olds from camps on the Syrian border and fostering them with british families and bringing them up as full british citizens ? It certainly far from ideal but I doubt I would be objecting, and this is a very different view point that I have towards the huge gangs of so called refugees roaming across europe demanding everything, I would give those lot nowt.
An interesting notion… It could even re-balance the unspoken of issue regarding nearly 100% of such immigrants seemingly being “young males” (implied by 0% “unattached females”). I would imagine that if you had actual kids as refugees - the split would be more like the 50/50 it needed to be for ALL immigrants.
The best bet though - would be to foster them with a non-Islamic family. THAT would be the correct way to properly merge them into place alongside those of us already here.
Bluey Circles:
tommy t:
Well the way things are going largely down to the dumb asses that run countries in the west, we either fight to keep our identity (by any means) or we bend over and get assimilated into something unsavoury , we 4 a start need to elect non eton toffs to run this country, we need those who have not been fed from the silver spoon, those who have had to work to survive, those who know what uncontrolled immigration can do, those who know just how dumb it really is to be so tolerant of
religious nut-cases of all persuasions, those that live here from countries afar, should abide by our laws and cultures and dress the same or similar to us, at school and in any public place, so no obscuring of the face school uniforms without exception , if they aren’t happy with these mandatory requirements then they could always leave this country , oh and those who wish to go and support ISIS ect , any citizen ship /passport is nuked as soon as they leave this country , and they will be barred from returning , should they manage to return and are subsequently detected they can be terminated on sightAs much as despise the toffy nosed tw4ts that run our country, strangely enough they would seem the more likely to preserve british values and keep our borders closed as best they can (and yes, I agree they are still letting too many in) … if it was down to the far left and the likes of Corbyn then they would just open the gates and let everyone in.
On a slightly wider note … what do others think of the proposal to allow up to 3000 unaccompanied children in; if for instance we were collecting orphaned under 10year olds from camps on the Syrian border and fostering them with british families and bringing them up as full british citizens ? It certainly far from ideal but I doubt I would be objecting, and this is a very different view point that I have towards the huge gangs of so called refugees roaming across europe demanding everything, I would give those lot nowt.
Its a slippery slope by allowing these kids as Raymondo has already said, their “families” will suddenly start popping up. Also, where are we going to place these kids? Councils are already cash strapped so much that they are struggling to help British kids as evidenced in that BBC report I linked. Kent Council said they have run out of beds for children across the whole county. As for fostering, there is a vast lack of willing people to foster kids at all in this country. I’ve seen loads of ads from various towns and cities trying to tempt people into fostering.
I think we should be looking after our own before helping others. We cant even do that.
Bluey Circles:
As much as despise the toffy nosed tw4ts that run our country, strangely enough they would seem the more likely to preserve british values and keep our borders closed as best they can (and yes, I agree they are still letting too many in) … if it was down to the far left and the likes of Corbyn then they would just open the gates and let everyone in.
On a slightly wider note … what do others think of the proposal to allow up to 3000 unaccompanied children in; if for instance we were collecting orphaned under 10year olds from camps on the Syrian border and fostering them with british families and bringing them up as full british citizens ? It certainly far from ideal but I doubt I would be objecting, and this is a very different view point that I have towards the huge gangs of so called refugees roaming across europe demanding everything, I would give those lot nowt.
The Cons immigration ideas are not really any different to Corbyn’s.The only difference is the reasoning and methodology.IE cheap labour brought in slowly and by stealth to appease the anti immigration faction in its rank and file.
As for the ‘300 children’ that’s just another stealth tactic in setting precedents so the rest can come together with their later new found siblings and relatives etc etc.In which case ‘if’ they are orphans then it’s better to keep them within their own cultures in their own regions in this case the Middle East.On that note no they aren’t ‘British children’ and why would you want to assimilate them into an alien society here.Unless the plan is to just increase that immigrant demographic even more.In which case you’re just adding to the likely problems for our own future generations when your obvious plan of assimilation and/or the likely immigrant plans for future demographic takeover blows up in the Socialists faces.
The fact is Europe is slowly waking up to the bat zb crazy intentions of the Socialiasts and their cynical Con allies.Losing the fear of being called ‘racist’ being the first part of that change.
Winseer:
The best bet though - would be to foster them with a non-Islamic family. THAT would be the correct way to properly merge them into place alongside those of us already here.
And in doing so fall into the trap of assimilation that the Socialists actually want for the country.
On that note what could possibly go wrong when the later adolescent immigrant with split loyalties decides that sharia is the right path for its alien adopted parental home.
I just love the way Carryfast makes his replies so easy to understand but what the hell he is on about, seems like the same ole stock answer to whatever the original question was, it all boils down to the ‘demographic’ or ‘socialist’ or ‘cheap labour’ or whatever but sure you get me drift!
raymundo:
I just love the way Carryfast makes his replies so easy to understand but what the hell he is on about, seems like the same ole stock answer to whatever the original question was, it all boils down to the ‘demographic’ or ‘socialist’ or ‘cheap labour’ or whatever but sure you get me drift!
I’ll try to make it easy for you.We know they are coming and we know the government is letting and sometimes even helping to let them in like using the navy to pick them up and bring them to Europe.We’ve got people supporting that here.The question then being why.
As for demographics the clue is whoever gets the biggest vote runs the government and the country.Or imposes their will in the case of historic Islamic invasion at least.Which is simply all about numbers of ‘them’ v ‘us’.
If anyone does the research you would quickly realise that we are unable to look after the children that are taken into care from our indigenous, the many children that are failed because the system is fraught with red tape and bureaucracy is simply astonishing and could be described as a national scandal on a grand scale, it is why so may children are abused by their carers or parents, the system is in meltdown.
Now add many thousands of foreign children that need even more resources, then I think we can see that the current system will fail many more indigenous children long with foreign children, it really is a recipe for failure on a grand scale…Remember, the psychological condition of these failed children will ultimately impact upon the future of the country and it is a significant number that will do much harm.
Currently we are going backwards regards social conditions, this will only speed up that effect and I for one am happy that I will not be around in 50 years, we have seen nothing yet!
att:
If anyone does the research you would quickly realise that we are unable to look after the children that are taken into care from our indigenous, the many children that are failed because the system is fraught with red tape and bureaucracy is simply astonishing and could be described as a national scandal on a grand scale, it is why so may children are abused by their carers or parents, the system is in meltdown.
Now add many thousands of foreign children that need even more resources, then I think we can see that the current system will fail many more indigenous children long with foreign children, it really is a recipe for failure on a grand scale…Remember, the psychological condition of these failed children will ultimately impact upon the future of the country and it is a significant number that will do much harm.
Currently we are going backwards regards social conditions, this will only speed up that effect and I for one am happy that I will not be around in 50 years, we have seen nothing yet!
Yes, I think you are correct, looking through some of the figures it is clear we are already failing miserably to look after our own.
and looking at the figures for the unaccompanied asylum seeking childeren that are already here
corambaaf.org.uk/res/statengland
2,630 unaccompanied asylum seeking children were looked after on 31st March 2015
90% (2,360) were boys and 10% (260) were girls
75% (1,970) were aged 16 and over
so basically the vast majority are young men and not really children.
Simply and plainly put … the future is looking bloody scary for my grand-kids so what can be done to protect their future apart from emigrate to a deserted island ■■
raymundo:
Simply and plainly put … the future is looking bloody scary for my grand-kids so what can be done to protect their future apart from emigrate to a deserted island ■■
Unfortunately they’ll probably be indoctrinated by the establishment education system with the idea that every culture can be assimilated into Merkel’s vision of a Europe without borders between it and its Asian and African neighbours.In which case they’ll obviously regard your fears as incomprehensible to them.While anyone who disagrees with that will be branded a racist.
As I said the fact that many of those who make up today’s military have already been subjected to that indoctrination is more than scary.
Press your local MP to get this idea into the system:
Any unaccompanied kids arriving at our borders are fostered with Non Islamic families - rather than being “taken into care” or made wards of court etc.
THIS then discourages those parents who’ve merely sent their kids on ahead to open up our borders for their own anticipated crossing later on… The thought that they are sending their kids into a country with a new “Must become an apostate” condition at port of entry - would go miles to solving this otherwise serious social issue at minimum cost too.