scanny77:
this is what got me thinking about whether or not there is any point in training for 7.5T but if the price is similiar to cat C then why bother? even the horse transporters would have an advantage if they could get a 12 tonner instead of a 7.5 tonner. remember a couple of years ago one was pulled by VOSA and even after they stripped everything out, their 7.5 tonner was overweight thanks to the coachbuilders. the same would apply when moving house yourself. a long bodied 7.5 tonner isnt much different to look at than a 12 tonner so why would you go for a C1 instead of C?
in a perfect theoretical world you’re right, but in the real world having to do tests for 7.5 tonners and 4x4 & trailers has led to a massive increase in 3.5 tonne horseboxes which can be driven by a 17 yr old on a car licence !!
like this
and the other thing : a 7.5 tonne private vehicle is exempt tacho rules while a 12t one isn’t
Denis F:
…a 7.5 tonne private vehicle is exempt tacho rules while a 12t one isn’t
I’m wondering whether that may also change in time… one way or the other
It does seem daft that you can hire a 7.5 for house moving with no regs but cannot use an 18 tonner for a private parade/fete without a tacho - both private functions with neither for hire or reward
ROG:
I’m wondering whether that may also change in time… one way or the other
It does seem daft that you can hire a 7.5 for house moving with no regs but cannot use an 18 tonner for a private parade/fete without a tacho - both private functions with neither for hire or reward
Would I be able to hire a 18t ruck to do a private house move without needing a tacho?
how could they introduce drivers regs for non vocational 7.5 ton drivers who have only hired one for something like moving house? there are a lot of drivers who have had the entitlement over 12 years and have probably never heard of drivers hours regs. they werent trained as part of the course as is the case with HGV so who would the responsibility lie with? and how would they publicly introduce it? we can keep up to date ourselves because we were aware from day 1 but prior to HGV entitlements, did any of us know about drivers hours regs? i didnt!
ROG:
I’m wondering whether that may also change in time… one way or the other
It does seem daft that you can hire a 7.5 for house moving with no regs but cannot use an 18 tonner for a private parade/fete without a tacho - both private functions with neither for hire or reward
Would I be able to hire a 18t ruck to do a private house move without needing a tacho?
And it would apparently come out of your driving hours for the week I believe and assumably your WTD hours too.
