Wow !…….A rousing Churchillian type speech there from Franglais…..are you also wearing an Army combat kit like Starmer?
Yeah you certainly talk a good talk, but you are hard to take seriously tbh.
Would YOU still talk like that if you were of potential fighting military age yourself, or like me had sons who would be among the first to go out and likely get killed to massage Starmer’s ego?
I’d like to bet a weeks wage on both counts.
So do I/we listen to Trump and wait and see what comes of it, or General Starmer and the likes of yourself whose opinions and judgements are fuelled by hatred.
Now if the threat was to the UK, …yeah bring it on, but let’s just allow Trump to achieve something, I’ll sit back and observe and you go and dig some dirt on Farage Boris or somebody…off ya pop now.
Trump will walk away it’s the last throw of the dice and he knows the dice won’t land in his favour, he wanted to walk the last time and only agreed to stay after he milked Ukraine and Europe to pay for everything
Unfortunately for trump it’s all about what he can brag about and Ukraine does not give him that platform, he was able to get his platform for palestine because he was controlling Israel, he certainly not controlling the Ukraine situation because he doesn’t want to upset his mate in Russia
So do we go all out and let Starmer risk the lives of our soldiers in another foreign war, this time against a mad ass with nuclear capabilities…
Is that really a better option than giving like I said the only deal on the table a chance to progress instead of writing it off because….. ‘ooh I don’t like that Trump guy’’ before it even gets off the ground.
Serious question btw.
Hey just had a brilliant idea….atm we are awash with young foreign men of fighting age who apparentlly want to settle here…..many have fought for the Taliban and ISIS so Bob’s yer uncle…..experience.
Kit them out like Starmer and send them in.
2 jobs sorted….
oh sh! I’m forgetting about the ECHR they’d hate that idea.
Kiev was the capital of Russia which makes it Ukraine how ?.The region of The Ukraine was Russia’s bread basket not the non existent country of Ukraine.
Just like Istria belonged to Italy not Yugoslavia and Alsace was a German speaking region of Germany not France and Sud Tyrol belonged to Austria not Italy.
A foul is a foul regardless of which team you support.Theres no place for hypocrisy or double standards in that.
Unfortunately that’s the truth of it, i wouldn’t worry about young men going to war it’s never going to happen, not anytime soon.
Also Unfortunately trump knows Europe hasn’t a hope of putting up a fight and so does the Russian, they are only good at having meetings and talking the chicken talk and not a stick in sight
Fortunately TACO is already backpedalling on his previous statement that he wants Ukraine to accept the deal by Thursday. It is now open to modification. No surprise that what he says one day is heavily altered now, and surely will be again.
How many times do I have to tell you….do NOT speak for me. If I say something and tell you what form the context is, do not contradict me in that condescending manner….I’LL decide if I am being serious…not you !
Oh come on, your hatred of Trump defies logic sometimes, very much like your hatred of Johnson. …..who are you trying to kid.
Nobody thinks it’s a good plan, it’s the ONLY plan apart from triggering off WW3 or Starmer and his EU pals being left on their own to finance, fight (or both) a foreign war when Trump just says ■■■■ it and walks.
The only good plan would be Russia pull out and pay reparations,.I’d reckon even somebody as naive as you would never expect that…..
(btw now we are having something that resembles a sensible conversation it’s a bit hard to take you seriously when you continue to think you are being clever/funny with that childish name for Putin, it was mildly amusing at first for all of 5 minutes…..it is now just mildly irritating )
I know I’m laying myself open to patronising and ridicule here but what is the acronym TACO, as I don’t pretend to be a pound shop politician it has passed me by….not another childish name is it?
I would assume the deal already laid out is still in the form of a negotiation, like when you may put an offer in for a car and say ‘Take it or leave it’ but if you want it you know that you will offer more…..
Do I have to say it again?……Wait and see how things go before you write it off.
I m done here on this for now,.as with every other conversation we have ….we just end up going around in circles.
If you are trying to be serious, great. But a question based on a false premise is not a serious question.
Trump, Vance, etc think it is a good plan. Putain thinks it is a good plan (It probably came from him!)
The current idea of starving Putain’s war machine is slowly working.
The idea to let Ukraine use it’s Western supplied weapons without restriction has not yet been tried.
Surrender is not a “peace plan” it is surrender, and the way to further war in the future.
You are worried about our kids having to fight a hot war? So am I. Letting Putain pick off countries one by one is the way to get into that nightmare scenario.
TACO is Trump Always Chickens Out.
Used first in relation to Trump tariffs, on, off , 20%, 80%, 10% 100%, Zero%.
But equally applies to all of negotiations. He gobs off, changes his mind, changes back etc, etc.
If Johnson’s government was a shopping trolley with a wobbly wheel, then Trump’s is a turbo charged JCB in a china shop driven by a toddler high on sugar drinks.
Yeah course it is so I was right it was just another childish jibes based on hatred.
Chickens out eh?….
Like he chickened out over getting rid of the cancerous woke left in his immediate area, the likes of which infest and basically rule our country and veto our every common sense move ?
Like he chickened out of ridding his country of illegal immigrant foreign criminal and terrorist scum which also infest our country and continue to milk us dry.
Ah right that TACO got it niw…
Get ‘kin real man.
I’ll write that one down so I don’t forget it…oh infinitely wise one.
ffs !
As for the rest of your ‘‘Putain’‘ twaddle,.as I said I’m done for now.
Ukraine isn’t being asked to surrender at all.It’s being asked to compromise and to sede some turf to a justified Russian claim.
Unlike Istria and South Vietnam and Sud Tyrol and Alsace.
Or it’s a false flag trap and Commy double cross to entrap our forces and the country in an unsustainable, strategically illiterate, mission.To stage a surrender and create the pretext to deliver we will own nothing and eat bugs and be ruled by Beijing and Davos.Enforced by an invading army of hostiles brought in for that purpose.The facts suggest that’s Starmer’s motive.Trump doesn’t even understand nor is ‘in’ on that plan.Possibly Biden was.
Obviously British Socialism seems too keen and protests against KGB man Putin too much in that regard.
I’m quoting your words ‘‘unfortunately not going to happen’’ obviously as in WW3 over the Ukraine v Russia turf argument, not going to happen.
Obviously Starmer wants it to ‘happen’ .To deliver the surrender to Russian and Chinese Communist forces, on Russian and Chinese terms and turf, that he’s worked for all of his rotten Socialist political life.
Trump’s golfing buddy Steve Witkoff seems to be coaching Putain on how to negotiate with Trump. Just whose side is he on?
Clearly not Ukraine’s side, no surprise there, but is he acting more for Putain than Trump?
Some are calling him a traitor. But Trump is backing his buddy and fellow real estate dealer.
