Busy Mr Trump

The JD bit?

He started as James Donald Hamel, and became a James David Bowman, and later still James David Vance. All during his childhood, and to do with his mother’s personal life.

Very delicately put, and yes, I have seen the film though before I had ever heard of him and his own weird brain.

I do like “Duelling Banjos”

One of the major issues that trumpy wumpy (are you sure that’s his name Cav, I thought it was felon P01135809) bangs his lickle dandies against the oval office desk is trade and tariffs. While proudly promoting the US as being the bigglierthanbiggest betterthanbestest country in the loonyverse, he wants it to be massively bigglier and betterier than even now.

And for what? In order for him to make the US even richer by making other countries buy more from them, rather than export more to the US, it inevitably will make other countries even poorer than they already are. It’s short term-ism at it’s worst. The US is wealthy enough to spend it’s currency abroad. With digital products from microsoft it creates new wealth constantly.

In a real sense, or at least under the current capitalist model that the world trades under, EU countries, UK, African countries, South American countries all have to export like crazy to the US in order to stay afloat. It’s the gravity model of trade, another theory that trump insiders need to brush up on. The US is already at that huge fiscal mass to simply attract more money with little effort.

Pause right there driver! What is the world’s default reserve currency?

Yes, the US dollar!

Follow this through now and don’t hit the headboard. The US economy enjoys a power and strength by default and doesn’t really need to “become richer” It’s primary issue is that like many other countries, it simply doesn’t trickle it’s wealth down fast enough to the poorest there. Trump is using the poverty that US companies impose upon their workers, as proof the US is poor, therefore the balance of trade needs to change so the poor can be rich.
Except the poor never will see the uptick in any wealth created by fiscal changes.

First problem for trumponomics is that if he pisses off the rest of the world enough, they will adopt a different reserve currency, hard as that would be to enact. But as soon as they did, it would reduce america’s wealth 20%, a stock-market correction they would not pull back for another decade and more.

The real reason why trump wants to “reduce” US trade imbalance, is simply to line his own and his supporter’s pockets. Not taxing overtime and tips is chump change, in fact half of that doesn’t attract tax anyway because the major recipients of tip income is the large army of workers who aren’t paid a living wage to begin with by businesses that are making the usual obscene profit only for their owners and stuff the workers.

Trump’s geo-fiscal policy ultimately will reduce America’s wealth, drastically reduce the working class income, piss off the rest of the world, and reduce the rest of the working class around the world’s wealth too. It’s proven bad science by history. But then I guess there aren’t any highly educated econmists within trump’s inner circle now.

And. And you’d imagine with the resurgence of the Steels Dossier, after Alnur Mussayev, the ex KGB agent speaking up again about the alleged recruitment of trump, you’d think trump would be at least cautious about looking even faintly pro russian now.

But here we continue, Putin carries on bombing Ukraine, trump talks about how naughty people are, but how many weeks later after boasting he could end the war in one day, it’s carrying on regardless. Not only does trump do nothing to rein back putin, but trump also continues to criticise the EU and the rest of NATO partners sans the US, for making at least some paltry effort to criticise the war mongrel putin.

Know your US C20th history guys. The McCarthy years when anyone who criticised the US was immediately labelled a commie. Reds under the bed. People’s lives ruined by shame and shunning. Interesting too how as a side hustle, McCarthy also threw around accusations of antisemitism at anyone who dared to question his witch finder general status.

Such a tangled web, I don’t know if it’s the Zionists all behind it all, or a successful russian mafia plot, or the christian far right pulling the strings, or simply some very wealthy families in the murky background controlling the game.
Or even an alien invasion force that maybe despite having superior space travelling technology, lacks the ability to simply wage war against the human race a.k.a independence day, so is using a long term dirty tricks strategy to get us to annihilate ourselves.

But the facts that remain unalienable include how trump has systematically gone after every person and organization that took any part in investigating trump, however official and balanced. Oh and how apparently the bigger reason why trump is going after Harvard?
It’s because it refused his son, Baron, a place there.

Any reasonable person whose vision isn’t adversely affected by having their head shoved so far up trump’s rectrum, must see the pattern of retribution trump is meting out using the office of the president of the united states. And sadly too late, a growing number of people who did vote trump in, are changing their minds as the cuts start to personally affect their livelihood and wellbeing.

I stopped after this paragraph. You’re better than that mate. Stop with the ridiculous and frankly childish speak.

You would wonder what his beef is with apple, no doubt a personal grudge

grasshopper. you are lighter than air
rise above it all

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How do you even know this type of irrelavant crap, and why do you even bother to find it out.:flushed_face:

When you strike up conversations at parties, do you often notice people suddenly remember they have something to do,.and leave you hanging
?
I bet you can clear a pub faster than Stevie Wonder walking in with a machine gun.:joy:

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What?
You read the WHOLE paragraph? :flushed_face:

Thing is mate you more than likely make some relavant points, but I reckonn only the Trump haters will know if that is true ir not as they are the ones reading it to gather more ammo for the hate campaign.

The rest of us take all the childish stuff as an insult to our intelligence tbh, so basically as soon as the inane Twumpy Wumpy type b/s appears :roll_eyes:, we simply CBA.
Just saying.

and as I keep gently chastising you and the others. You appear to jump, nay, fling yourself like a hero onto a grenade, the millisecond anyone takes the piss out of trump. But then you, and others take the piss out of people on here. And I’m reading daily, far worse insults thrown at him, by his own servants, I mean citizens. I’m wearing woollen mitts without a roll of dimes in my fist.

Can you really not see the differences and similarities at play here?

Firstly does trump give a rat’s ass about what I or any other limey commie says. No. At least not while he’s got bigger fish to fry. He’s too busy setting up visiting leaders for insult, to be arsed about me insulting him.

So why are you in real terms defending his fragile ego? Who cares if I call him anything at all. Really? Of all the issues that directly affect you here today, is an insulted poor trump a major one?

Should anyone, like Frangalise and everyone else stop reading any post you make the moment you insult him? How is it worse for me to insult some moron like trump who many many people around the world consider to be a narcissist and who loves the stage, to be front and centre of any conversation good or bad. Than for you to insult someone that potentially you could meet in the pub, or at a RDC? (putting aside that he is square wheeled I think)

It’s your knee reflex about something puerile, yes it’s puerile, as name calling trump, that bothers me the most. I couldn’t give two hoots if you insulted me the same. I really couldn’t, and you probably guessed that already which is why you aren’t bothering.

But then you stick up for big brother donald (he ain’t heavy but he’s my older thicker brother so leave him alone OKAY) It’s baffling. Millions voted for him who with cuts to medicaid and SNAP will now be wondering why their life is worse not better. Technically he has no direct affect on us oiks. Except as leader of the biggest “free” country he affects the world economy which then affects us. But is he gonna give you free tickets to the Met Opera for being such a staunch supporter? Is he hell. We’re all workers who he happily stomps over to reach his goal. Just like, as we largely agree, most politicians.

Lastly.

I was directly referencing this post with my opening smirk

I see now I made a spelling mistake, apologies.

If you agree to stop making direct insults about any other TN user, then I’ll rein in the hurty words against Mr Bonespurs. (I’ll negotiate over ribbing about 4 over 4 and A frames though…)

I don’t really care what you call him, I was merely pointing out that it diminishes the impact of what you are trying to express. As I said, you are better than that. It’s childish and immature, you are extremely eloquent and obviously a deep thinker. I may be poles apart from you politically but I admit that you get my old grey cells working and I’m genuinely interested in the stuff you post.

I realise that what I think has zero effect on your life, but from my POV you reduce the impact of your posts, which I think is a shame.

Never say that. I said I didn’t care about being insulted. But I do care about what other people think. Everyone, even trump has the right to an opinion. And what people think can have an effect on other people’s lives. Because unless you act before thinking, you usually think before acting. Except for a certain world leader :slight_smile:

Here’s the rub; if I stick my head above the parapet I fully expect to take incoming flak, I take no umbrage whatsoever at that (after all, it’s only the internet) . The person who you allude to is also smart, savvy and intelligent enough to realise that it’s only pixels on a screen, like yours I think that his politics stink, but I fully respect his (and your) absolute right to hold those views .

Really? To be truly free one must not actually care about others opinions of you.

Anyhoo , I’m 6 big Madris in by now, so it’s probably wise to step away from the keyboard. Have a great day :+1:

Nope, neither do I in the grand scheme of things, I just add to discussions on a forum.

A tad dramatic, more me redressing the balance …with no explosive ammunition present

So?..
It’s part of my character to do so…as in real life, not just confined to a keyboard like some.
That and my zero tolerance to d/heads…again as in real life.

Not really mate …all I see is a bunch of haters displaying PMT over something (or somebody) they can do the far end of f/all about, which on the whole has no bearing on their lives, as much as criticism of our own illustrious leader has for example.

I only read it as I find it most bizzare and amusing.:joy:…and I lurrrve annoying a certain few.

CGAF tbh mate…seriously

That has been a problem for most of my life much to the annoyance of my beautiful wife…I can not keep my gob shut if some d/head gobs off, which is why I used to enjoy security to an extent.
So that said if anybody comes across as a ■■■■ on here I’ll call him a ■■■■…cant help myself.

No I don’t in essence…I just enjoy watching people like you get so wound up about f’all, , as illustrated in this post.

No deal…The hurty words aint a problem mate, it’s the childish ones that get right up my arse.

Sorry if the plain direct no frills speaking offends you (I aint really btw) but with me what you see is what you get.
Cheers.
:roll_eyes:

Criticise the opinions of others, by all means of course. That’s what this board is partly about besides trying to relay information. But it’s the direct insults of people. I’ve no idea how sensitive or not Mr F is. Probably no more than I.

But what about other users or readers of this board? A casual viewer comes along to find out information (as I first did) Reads a few things of use, then falls down the rabbit hole

“what’s this thread about trump about I wonder”

Then sees people being directly insulted over their views. And no, trump being insulted doesn’t count. As I said, he’s a public figure who has put himself on the world stage for personal gain, he only thinks about himself, no one else,

so he should accept any incoming.

Maybe personal direct insults of this board’s participants will put off potential newbies joining?

getting all Buddhist on me? :slight_smile:

We should start a Buddhist thread :folded_hands: