Thank you good Sir.
A belter from Season one 
Latest on Starmers ‘Smash the gangs’ and dealing with illegal immigration…(or in his case NOT on both counts.
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In a live press conference in Albania he was totally humiliated when the PM of Albania told him live for the first time, that despite Starmer’s reason for being there was to offload a few freeloaders in the future, that the same deal with Italy was purely a one off not to be repeated…classic.
(He should have dropped off a few Albanian drug gang members and criminals taking up room in our overcrowded prisons, and a few of their bogus asylum seekers while he was there.)
So now he’s looking for another country to do the same…maybe he should try RWANDAH 
As ever he is blaming ‘‘The last govt’’ which is a fair point, but he has been in now for months,.where as Trump had his immigration fiasco sorted in a few weeks ffs.
Is anybody actually taken in by, or believe that a lifelong rabid lefty who has spent most of his carreer defendind lefty issues, favouring immigration, and all the rest of it, is appearing to be moving towards the right? …not a chance.
Looks like public opinion and the threat of Reform has him crap ing his pants.
Good enough for him…him and his party are a ‘kin joke that aint funny.
Still…‘They aint as bad as the Tories’’ eh?
Btw…Posted on wrong thread.
What a d1ck.
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You keep shtum for ever. It’s the government that decide if and when something can be public. Anyway, the time limits only apply to civilian government meetings and policy etc, and then only if it’s agreed “safe” to de-classify.
Oh come on Rob, you surely know better than to assume Israel unlike the UK, the USA and every other country in the entire world, wouldn’t operate covert infiltration units to a. obtain information and b. influence or derail plans. It’s been done loads of times on all sorts of groups in the UK, you’ve heard of the police embedded literally into environmental groups, MI5 and FRU infiltrated the IRA, special branch infiltrated the NUM, to name just a few.
The Israelis are even better at it. But they’ve still had leaks and exposure even by high up officers who simply don’t agree with the direction that various Israeli leaders have taken over the decades from Golda Meir onwards.
The terrorists bit off more than they could chew. Agreed. Apparently the plans Israel knew about before suggested the original Hamas plan was for a lengthy - month or more - occupation and war on Israeli land. That in part could explain why they didn’t take it seriously enough, too preposterous by far of Hamas, the Israelis thought. Except maybe those at the top of the conspiracy wanted those lower down, the intelligence gatherers to think it was absurd, so it could carry on and happen.
I don’t deny, but certainly don’t agree with the default attitude of many Arab leaders and the more radical supporters in the Middle East, that they want Israel wiped off the map (and the USA and the UK, and France and Italy too so we shouldn’t get complacent) But life out there has never been easy, all that sand and heat, and those damn flies, and precious little water and food, and not much to do except chat to your wives all day. We western imperialists then march in, order the locals around, shoot a few, take their princesses (the better looking ones) their gold and interesting artefacts, build ports to cement our hold there, try changing the environment to grow more apples instead of dates, divert their drinking water into our swimming pools, and generally order them around, messing their way of life up forever. No wonder they are pissed at us.
Would you know that there are “two types” of Jew. According to themselves that is. In a similar way to how African black people look down on Afro- Americans, Israeli Jews look down on Western European Jews. Zionism grew up in the houses of back streets in Jerusalem, radical impatient Jews wanting to take back the land they saw as theirs, which first the Ottoman Empire had siezed centuries ago and then run, then after WW1 with the defeat of the Ottomans, the English took over, but still denied Jews their right to self determination. Spring forward to WW2 and the growing Zionist movement in Palestine sees it chance to throw the British out for good. Crazy now as it seems, but the Zionists started negotiating with the Nazis even as millions of European Jews were thrown into the ovens. Though it’s not true that Hitler supported the formation of Israel, he none the less wanted rid of Jews.
It was actually the British, who then was in charge of Palestine who consistently blocked the emigration of European Jews to Palestine and Jerusalem.
It’s the British Government that share blood of the Jews on it’s hands. If only there had been a sensible negotiated peaceful agreement made between the Arabs and the Jews back then, we wouldn’t have any of the world instability we have now. But british politicians then, just as now with starmer think they know best but keep ■■■■■■■ it all up.
Because it can be claimed the present situation in the US is in part due to Trump who is beholden to Jewish financiers, to bend over backwards to them now, instead of reigning in the Israeli government excesses. And it is feasible that the democrats lost because they lost support from those watching events unfold in the middle east decided the democrats were no better , no more righteous or entitled to power than the republicans.
And we all know what happens when we adopt protest votes. We screw our own best interests.
An excellent synopsis. The whole murky business of how the British and French carved up the land between themselves and strived to thwart each other’s ambitions, the British betrayed the Arabs, the French armed the various zionist terrorist groups, and how the Americans stuck their oar in because they wanted to end European imperialism, and a share of the oil for themselves, in a spoils of war shareout without having had any involvment in the theatre, is revealed in James Barr’s excellent ‘A Line in the Sand, Britain, France and the Struggle that Shaped the Middle East’.
To jump in on the comments that Israel thought there would be no attack is reminiscent to what the Americans had to them, they were warned of a missile attack on the USA, they also dismissed that as prosperous , how could a missile get all the from the Middle East to the USA?
That missile transpired in to jets filled to the maximum with aviation fuel.
Only a few days before 9/11, the Bin Laden family evacuated from NYC.
Tell ya what Wolfie mate your posts definitely test out my low boredom threshold to the limit.
Yeah of course I’m aware of govt infiltrations on all sorts of organisations, if there is one thing I aint it’s naive.
I just don t subscribe to the one that you pointed out which is YOUR THEORY,.that’s all.
As I said when Lefties start bleating about stuff I tend to keep an open mind.
Try and condense the post a bit next time you want me to respond though mate eh?
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I see that Highly Overrated Bruce Springsteen goes to a Foreign Country to speak badly about the President of the United States. Never liked him, never liked his music, or his Radical Left Politics and, importantly, he’s not a talented guy — Just a pushy, obnoxious JERK, who fervently supported Crooked Joe Biden, a mentally incompetent FOOL, and our WORST EVER President, who came close to destroying our Country. If I wasn’t elected, it would have been GONE by now! Sleepy Joe didn’t have a clue as to what he was doing, but Springsteen is “dumb as a rock,” and couldn’t see what was going on, or could he (which is even worse!)? This dried out “prune” of a rocker (his skin is all atrophied!) ought to KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT until he gets back into the Country, that’s just “standard fare.” Then we’ll all see how it goes for him!
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do you have proof Toby?
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I’m a big Springsteen fan (his music), seen him a fair few times. I’m glad I didn’t go to his latest gig in Manchester though. You’re there for the music not any political crap regardless of which side of the fence you’re on.
That plonker Bono was bad for that. Filling what were supposed to be music shows with his own political belief crap. Stick to the music guys 
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that and how the multi millionaire artists start charity giving events, except it’s our money they want us to give to charity each time, they don’t give their money away.
The Arabs have done what they do totally naturally. Invite both their friends and their enemies to dinner, treat them like kings, pump them up with praise and make endless promises. Empty promises.
There’s this knowledge among diplomats who work with the Middle East; the Arabs will say anything that they think you want to hear. But they have little to zero intention, to them it is just the way of diplomacy, talk nicely.
I know this for myself because I bumped shoulder with a few pilots and their engineers from Saudi Arabia and I think it was Oman back in the 80s. They were great hosts always. But nothing they promised they delivered. Whether it was a little of a class thing, as the majority of the pilots were from well connected families, and they saw us working class oiks as mere servants to be humoured and roasted behind our backs.
So Trump will be lucky if he sees any positive benefits from his round of diplomacy, and if there was to really have been any, that could be shot down in flames depending on how far Israel decides to take this latest phase of war in Gaza. By the time the IDF have corralled a million Palestinian refugees into a few square miles of tents and pushed them towards a highly reluctant Egypt, the body count might have angered the surrounding Arab States into a rather more hateful attitude to the US and UK. Time will tell.
There’s a gated community comprising of 6 houses just outside the place I live situated in the middle of nowhere. I recently learned that this community was funded by the Saudi government. The reason was that they’d agreed to buy X number of Typhoon aircraft on the condition that the Saudi pilots were trained at nearby RAF Coningsby. The top nobs at Coningsby were happy with that arrangement but said that under no circumstances were the Saudis to be accommodated at Coningsby itself due to their attitude towards women which had been amply demonstrated during previous visits.
Therefore they bought the farmland and built the houses and ferried the pilots to Coningsby on a daily basis
And you know this how exactly?
Then if they went around boasting about it they would be condemned for that also, not to mention the motives publicly questioned for giving it in the first place.
When George Michael died for instance, it was revealed he had gave milloions to charity over the years.
One example was he was an afternoon tv fan.
While watching this morning a couple were on talking about their numerous unsuccesful IVF attempts where as far as I remember they no longer qualified for it on NHS for whatever reason.
George phoned the show and gave an anonymous donation for funding privately…which turned out succesful for them.
Richard Madeley made the couple aware when George died and the kid would be around 4 years old then.
Geldof has funded Live Aid stuff out of his own pocket,.Alan Shearer is a patron for a lot of sports related charities.
So not all rich famous people are raging capitalists after all Wolfie mate.
Power to the people.
Like ALL politicians and MPs you mean?
George proves my point. He never bounced up and down on stage insisting the fans gave all their cash to the starving artists of America. He quietly gave his money on, while campaigning on the issues. Focusing on the issues. Not cash from yours and mine pockets. It’s the endless parade of talentless millionaire singers rattling the cans that irks me.
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yep, charmer starmer is doing that now. Saying what he thinks reform voters want to hear. I don’t deny he is an embarrassment to Labour. The sooner he is jettisoned the better. Maybe have him made refugee representative to France…
His latest plan is as usual well thought out NOT. Limited free exchange for European kids. How exactly will that work out. Can we get rid off our most useless snowflakes for instance. Or suffer millions of well spoken and educated multilingual French, Italian and Spanish young men coming here and charming our English roses with tall tales of romance and riches.
(still waiting for carryfast to speed up and post that reply he has been writing for the last 9 minutes. Watching his bubble “C replying” “C replying” “C replying” Then it stops for another minute before bobbing up and down again “C replying” “C replying” “C replying”, then stops again. 14 minutes later… Unless he is watching and waiting for me to post. 20 minutes later, I give up, already made 57 other posts waiting for C to reply)
Never mind 'kin Labour Wolfie…he is an embarrasment to our country…we are a laughing stock because of him and his derisory goverment.
This is why I find this thread particularly amusing, we have our OWN home grown clown here, but the attention is diverted off him and concentrated on Trump who is perceived as a clown instead…and not a fraction as relavant.
Still ‘‘Not as bad as the Tories’’ as Franglais used to tell us eh.
(Btw…afaik Carryfast is still on pre.mod.)