Buses, coaches, & lorries

A Bristol SC4LK of Crosville Motor Services. Finch Coaches of Wigan had an ex Crosville Bristol SC4LK
in the 1970s, mainly for services to and from factories in Bolton and Farnworth. I did an occasional
trip in the Bristol, usually taking groups of anglers to canals, lakes, and rivers for their hobby.
The engine was a 4 cylinder Gardner, coupled to a 5 speed gearbox. Top speed was about 45 MPH.
Ray Smyth.

Kanto Railway of Japan Neoplan Megaliner.
Oily

Same company, looks like rear axle steer.
Oily

The Liverpool Corporation Leyland PD2 on the left could be what the audience on the right
are looking at. The Ford bread van is from Scotts bakery, a major supplier of bread in Merseyside.
The “Full Swing” Karrier belongs to Edmundsons, a lemonade and soft drinks manufacturer.

I have now worked out exactly where this location is. It is Walton Lane, looking toward Liverpool
city centre, behind the camera is Everton F.C. football ground. The date is approx. 1959/1960.
Where the Leyland bus is parked is what used to be the tram tracks, to and from the city centre.
This end of Salop Street on the right is no longer there, but Tetlow Street next to it still exists.
Walton Lane is now a dual carriageway. The cables above with the street lamps would have
carried the overhead wires for the trams until 1957, the last year of tram operation.

Ray Smyth.

Oiltreader:

Cav551:

Oiltreader:

Kevmac47:
My opinion is the exposed rad made a better looking bus, but then I only ever had experience of this type of rad on a Leyland decker. I think the covered front looks clumsy and toytownish. Tin hat on for incoming!!!Regards Kev.

Me to Kev like the old wagons the distinct manufacturer’s rad had character, did many a shift on 956 :smiley:
Oily

An interesting picture because at first sight those are two Regent IIIs, but 956 is actually one of comparatively few Regent Vs built with a traditional exposed radiator. The immediate giveaway being the binnacle on 956, to the lack of one on Regent III 166 and also the angle of the applied handbrake. They would also sound completely different. Strangely however each seems to be sporting the other’s type of front wheels.

Hi cav551 956 was a cracking machine, Regent V with exposed rad, pre-selector, lovely bark off the exhaust, when re-verberating off a wall, music to the ears, happy days :smiley: . 166, lesser powered, stick change. 956 was the last bus I drove, that was August 1962, so memory not that good on the finer details of what powered what.
Cheers
Oily
Edit
 a pic of a later RegentV snapped 1961.


TruckNetUK . Old Time Lorries . Buses,Motorcoaches And Lorries. Page 17. AEC Regent,AEC Q,etc VALKYRIE . Saturday,17th November,2018.

In reply to OilTreader,Kevmac47,Cav551,[ZB] Anorak,240 Gardner on Page 14 of this thread.

AEC Regent MkV/Park Royal H33/28R DD Bus,Chassis No.MD3RV438,Body No.B40642, 956 AJO,4-1957,City Of Oxford H956,LEFT.C.Guthier-OilTreader.1#
AEC Regent MkIII/Weymann L27/26R DD Bus,Chassis No.9613A5624,Body No.M4676, PWL 413,1-1951,City Of Oxford L166,RIGHT.C.Guthier-OilTreader.2#

Some technical details:AEC Regent MkV/Park Royal H33/28R DD Bus,Chassis No.MD3RV438,Body No.B40642, 956 AJO.
Engine:AEC AV470 7.686-Litre,In-Line 6-Cylinder,103-112 BHP Diesel Oil Engine.
Gearbox,optional: Single plate clutch and 4-speed synchromesh,or fluid flywheel and 4-speed electro-pneumatic direct acting epicyclic gearbox.

AEC Regent MkIII/Weymann L27/26R DD Bus,Chassis No.9613A5624,Body No.M4676, PWL 413.
Engine:AEC A218 9.6-Litre,In-Line 6-Cylinder,115-125 BHP Diesel-Oil Engine.
Gearbox,optional: Fluid flywheel and 4-speed pre-selector gearbox,or 4-speed sliding mesh gearbox.

AEC Regent MkV Tin Front LD3RA,AEC A218 9.6-Litre Diesel-Oil - Engined/Weymann Orion H37/8R DD Bus, 968 CWL,1957,Oxford,No.H968.EddieMcDonaldPhotos-OilTreader,dated 1961.1#

AEC Regent MkV Tin Front LD3RA,AEC A218 9.6-Litre Diesel-Oil - Engined/Weymann Orion H37/8R DD Bus, 968 CWL.
Engine:AEC A218 9.6-Litre,In-Line 6-Cylinder,115-125 BHP Diesel-Oil Engine.
Gearbox,optional: Single plate clutch and 4-speed synchromesh,or fluid flywheel and 4-speed electro-pneumatic direct acting epicyclic gearbox.


Some *excerpts from my AEC Q post on TruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.A To Z Of Transport Miscellaney.The Letter Q.VALKYRIE.Saturday,19th June,2017.Page 18,and my post is No.18:-

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*= indicates excerpt.

*The AEC Q was introduced in 1932 and was obviously unorthodox and ahead of it’s time.Production stopped in 1937.Production details:-

AEC Q 761/O761 001 - 023 23 4x2 Double Decker Omnibuses. 23

AEC Q 761T 001 - 005 5 4x2 Double Decker Electric Trolleybuses. 5

AEC Q 762/O761 001 - 0336 336 4x2 Single Decker Motorcoaches & Buses.336. London Transport operated the majority of AEC Q single deckers.

AEC Q O763 001 1 6x4 Double Decker Omnibus. 1

AEC Q Total Production: 365.

AEC Q 761,Right Side Petrol-Engined/Metro-Cammell H28/28F Double Decker Omnibus,Chassis No.761011, AYV 615,July 1934,London Transport Q2.Route 77.The full size real omnibus.Flickr.1#

And here is a beautiful Corgi metal diecast scale model of the above AEC Q,AYV 615,London Transport Q2 :-

AEC Q 761,Right Side Petrol-Engined,Metro-Cammell H28,28F Double Decker Omnibus,Chassis No.761011, AYV 615,July 1934,London Transport Q2.Route 77.Corgi OM45701 Scale Model.TTC Diecast.1#

5.*
AEC Q 761T001,Right Side Mounted-English English EE405 80 BHP Electric Motor/English Electric H33/30F DD Trolleybus,KY 6210,Bradford,Friday,2-2-1934.Prototype,then Bradford 633.Then South Shields C.T. 235,Monday,19-1-1942.1#

6*.
Strong contrast in the appearances of a typical and beautiful 1930s front-engined,half cab,full canopy single decker motorcoach of 1934 -
an AEC Regal - and an ultra-modern,futuristic and beautiful AEC Q motorcoach of 1933 :slight_smile: QV photographs.

This particular AEC Regal has a long and rich history,which started in the famous seaside holiday resort,and Mecca Of Motorcoaches! :exclamation: :smiley:,
Blackpool :slight_smile: .This is very similar to the AEC Regal in that AEC Regal Motorcoach advertisement that I documented in my previous post in
this thread :smiley: It was operated by the Grand Edwardian Touring Company,owned by Clive Screeton,from 1992 to around 2000,then
Wild Rose operated the Regal and was auctioned off at a Bonhams sale at the National Motor Museum to it’s present owner in 2016 :slight_smile: :-

AEC Regal O6621547/1934 English Electric C18R Motorcoach,FV 4548,Blackpool,March 1934.New to W.Salisbury & Sons,Blackpool.Body rebuilt by Lawton Motor Body Co in 2006.Preserved by Stephen Morris Quantock Heritage,Taunton,Somerset.It was originally petrol-engined,had a Beadle C32R body,No.366,was rebodied with it’s English Electric motorcoach body to Leyland-Ribble design and fitted with an AEC A173 Direct Injection Diesel-Oil Engine:-

NOTE:I made a mistake in my original post:I said that the AEC Regal,FV 4548,was bodied by Leyland since Leyland had supplied Ribble with
a number of Leyland Tiger TS6 motorcoaches in 1933 with identical motorcoach bodies to the one on the AEC,and,in common with other enthusiasts,I assumed that the AEC’s body had originated from one of these magnificent Ribble Leyland Tiger motorcoaches. Wrong! :unamused: It’s 1934 English Electric C31F body came from Leyland Tiger TS6,HG 2759 in 1948 when the AEC was in use as an engineering instruction bus with Ribble,No.DS1.

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AEC Q 762005,Right Side AEC A167 or A169 High Power 7.4-Litre Petrol-Engined/Duple C33C Motorcoach,Body No.3666,LJ 8001,Bournemouth,July 1933.Royal Blue Motorcoaches,Elliott Brothers,Bournemouth.Beautiful :slight_smile: .1#

AEC Q 762005,Right Side AEC A167 or A169 High Power 7.4-Litres Petrol-Engined, Duple C33C Motorcoach,Body No.3666,LJ 8001,Bournemouth,July 1933.Royal Blue Motorcoaches,Elliott Brothers,Bournemouth.Beautiful..jpg

AEC Q O762,Right Side AEC Diesel-Oil - Engined/Christchurch T.B. B39D Single Decker Bus,Chassis No.O762175, Christchurch T.B.No.228,New Zealand.Also 225 bus & 227 chassis survive.Preserved.FerryMeadTramway.1#

.AEC Q  O762,Right Side AEC Diesel-Oil - Engined,Christchurch T.B. B39D Single Decker Bus,Chassis No.O762175,    Christchurch T.B.No.228,New Zealand.Also 225 bus & 227 chassis survive.Preserved.FerryMeadTramway.1#.jpg

And here is a beautiful Corgi metal scale model of AEC Q,CGJ 190,Q85:-
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AEC Q O762,Right Side AEC Diesel-Oil-Engined/Birmingham R.C.W. B37C Single Decker Bus,Chassis No.O762140, CGJ 190,London Transport Q85.Corgi OM41008 Scale Model.Hattons.1#

AEC Q O762,Right Side AEC Diesel-Oil-Engined/Birmingham R.C.W. B37C Single Decker Bus,Chassis No.O762136, CGJ 188,London Transport Q83.Preserved.Pinterest.1

Finally,how did the fascinating and delightfully unusual AEC Q get it’s Q model name? :question: Thank the British Royal Navy,the German Navy and
the Navy of the United States Of America :slight_smile:

WIKIPEDIA QUOTE Q-Ships, also known as Q-boats, decoy vessels, special service ships, or mystery ships, were heavily armed merchant ships with concealed weaponry, designed to lure submarines into making surface attacks. This gave Q-ships the chance to open fire and sink them.

So,because the Q-Ships were on the secrets list and doing secret work,and because the AEC was developed in secrecy,revolutionary in nature,
experimental - initially at least - and hush-hush,AEC appropriately chose the letter Q :slight_smile:

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240 Gardner, This PD 3/3 painted in traditional Ribble livery but still with Scout fleetname looks much better than it did in Scout livery. The tin front blends perfectly with the Burlingham half cab body. I drove numerous Burlingham full fronted PD 3/4s (and MCW bodied PD3/5s) at Carlisle depot in 1963 -4 a pleasure to drive with manual gearbox and steering apart from the odd one with exceptionally heavy steering.
Here is yours truly sorry about photo quality I had a cheap camera back then. The location was opposite the old turnpike cottage at the junction of the A7 and A74 at Kingstown, Carlisle.
Cheers, Leyland 600

steam bus Paris-Berlin.jpgWhat about a week-end in Berlin?

Absolutely stunning coachwork on that 1934 Standerwick Pullman AEC Regal in Blackpool! Who said buses can’t be beautiful?! Robert

.AEC%20Regal%20O6621547,1934%20English%20Electric%20%20C18R%20Motorcoach,FV%204548,Blackpool,March%201934.New%20to%20W.Salisbury%20&%20Son.jpg

An operator most have never heard of and a bus type that only found favour with a few operators. The Dennis Lancet UF. Several pictures of its restoration.

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Liverpool Corporation Leyland PD2 buses at the Pier Head in the early 1960s.
L285 and L296 have body framework by Crossley, and the rest of their bodies
completed at the Corporations own bodyshop at Edge Lane,Liverpool.
Ray Smyth.

Wilts & Dorset bus company Volvo breakdown lorry. Ray Smyth.

Leyland600:
240 Gardner, This PD 3/3 painted in traditional Ribble livery but still with Scout fleetname looks much better than it did in Scout livery. The tin front blends perfectly with the Burlingham half cab body. I drove numerous Burlingham full fronted PD 3/4s (and MCW bodied PD3/5s) at Carlisle depot in 1963 -4 a pleasure to drive with manual gearbox and steering apart from the odd one with exceptionally heavy steering.
Here is yours truly sorry about photo quality I had a cheap camera back then. The location was opposite the old turnpike cottage at the junction of the A7 and A74 at Kingstown, Carlisle.
Cheers, Leyland 600

Thank you for that. Ah, those were the days, eh? The old heavy uniform - I remember it well, because I had an uncle who drove for Ribble at Preston Depot for over years - he’d joined them when they acquired his employer, Pilot Motors of Preston, in 1926, and finally retired at 67. I still have the presentation gold watch he was given after completing 40 years’ service

A selection.
Oily

Bus Bristol Geoff Sheppard cc by sa 3.0 Taunton_Park_Street_-Southern_National_1613(LTA772)gs.jpg

Bus Barry Lewis cc by 2.0 8635878916_8bc9593c11_k bl.jpg

Bus Alan Farrow in PD .The chassis registration number dates from 1949,but with LTs overhaul system the chassis could be later.This bus is preserved in New Zealand.27214951469_6e4351341b_pdaf o.jpg

Bus  15-256 Ex-Midland Red BMMO S23 No. 5919 Clive G' cc by nd 2.0 19217669133_eff9b36534 CG_o.jpg

TruckNetUK . Old Time Lorries . Buses,Motorcoaches & Lorries . Page 17 . Blackpool’s Buses & Trams . VALKYRIE . Tuesday,20th November,2018.

Page 14,In reply to 240 Gardner,Ramone,KevMac47,B.Wadsworth.

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Blackpool is the Mecca Of Motorcoaches! :exclamation: :smiley: Countless motorcoaches ranging from attractive,to exotic,to beautiful,to flamboyant,to unusual (or a combination of two or more of these qualities) have gone in and out of Blackpool over many decades transporting holidaymakers and daytrippers to and from this famous flamboyant seaside holiday resort :slight_smile:

The motorcoach is very strongly associated with holidays,tours and day trips,so how very appropriate that thousands of motorcoach bodies were made in Blackpool! :exclamation: :smiley: By Burlingham ,1923-1962,taken over by London-based Duple in 1960,and by Duple,1919-1989,who fully moved to Blackpool in 1970.Both companies also made bus bodies,some of which were for Blackpool Transport.

A far lesser known Blackpool motor bodybuilder was Landsdowne K.W.Bodies,1937-1960,of Bispham who built motorcoach bodies.

1930s The Streamlined Decade :slight_smile:

In the 1930s Art DĂ©cor and Streamlining were all the rage - hence buildings,radio sets,trains,aeroplanes,railway locomotives,motor vehicles,etc,became streamlined.Not only from an artistic point of view,but,in the case of mobile transport vehicles,for aerodynamic efficiency - to move smoother through the air,cut down on air drag,save on fuel consumption and travel faster.

So the great flamboyance of Blackpool and the wonderful spirit of streamlining came together in a new fleet of modern and streamlined buses and trams,instigated by the new General Manager of Blackpool Transport,Walter Luff,in office as General Manager from 1933-1954,who was
far-sighted and and broad-minded.

With one exception,all of the main fleet of new streamlined single and double decker buses had bodies built by
yes,you’ve guessed it,H.V.Burlingham :slight_smile: The exception being Leyland Titan TD4/English-Electric FH24/24C Streamlined Double Decker Bus,FV 6615,Blackpool,No.120,built
in 1936.

NOTE:There were other buses in the Blackpool fleet at the same time as the new streamliners,but I’m just covering the new streamlined buses
and trams that were built from new.

The Streamlined V-Fronts :slight_smile:

As much as the traditional exposed radiators of motor vehicles are variously attractive,beautiful,interesting,fascinating,etc,such as the exposed radiators of Leyland,Rolls-Royce,AEC,Daimler,Mercedes-Benz,Scammell,Bugatti,Hispano-Suiza,Duesenberg,Bentley,et al,the exposed radiators of Blackpool’s streamlined Leyland Titans and Tigers looked a bit incongruous amidst all the streamlining! :exclamation: :slight_smile:

Thus Blackpool Transport got rid of exposed radiators with the latest batch of new streamlined single and double decker buses in 1940,and blessed them with very attractive streamlined V-Front Radiator Grilles :slight_smile: At long last complete streamlining was fulfilled ! :exclamation: :slight_smile: - and the beautiful Leyland Tiger V-Front Streamlined Single Decker Buses looked more like motorcoaches than buses! :exclamation: :slight_smile: very fitting for the motorcoach,flamboyant
and holiday town of Blackpool! :exclamation: :slight_smile:

The beautiful streamlined styling of the buses was based on the streamlined trams.
These streamlined buses had all gone out of passenger-carrying service by the end of the 1960s - the last were withdrawn in 1969,though a few remained as service vehicles - some of them thankfully passed on to preservation later on :slight_smile:

English-Electric Balloon Streamlined Double Decker,Brush RailCoach Streamlined Single Decker Trams and Streamlined Single Decker Open Boat Car Trams.

But the above trams carried on in to the 21st Century :exclamation: :slight_smile: They’ve been renovated several times,and some Balloon trams have been given flat fronts :unamused: Oh dear. However,most of the 1934-37 streamlined trams are part of the Blackpool Heritage Tram Fleet are operational and are now mainly used occasionally on heritage services.While others are being repaired and/or renovated,or stored,or preserved in transport-tramway museums-or on heritage tramways,etc
while a handful have been scrapped.

Todays Modern Blackpool Bus And Tram Fleet.

Although attractive,interesting and technically sophisticated,Blackpool’s Bombardier Flexity 2,5-Section,Multi-Articulated,Single Decker Trams,Fleet Nos.OO1-O18,lack the charisma of Blackpool’s traditional and definitive streamlined trams of 1934-1937 and other later trams.

The same can be applied to Blackpool’s buses over the last nearly fifty years: The last V-Front streamliners went out of service in 1969.These were the definitive Blackpool buses,and the double deckers were replaced by a mixture of Midland Red Front full-fronted Leyland Titan PDs,
St.Helens Front full-fronted Leyland Titan PDs,St.Helens Front half cab Leyland Titan PDs and,later on,square and boxy-looking Leyland Atlanteans! :exclamation: - a far cry from the traditional Blackpool streamliners!! :exclamation: :exclamation: :unamused:

The single deckers were not replaced - Blackpool became an all double decker bus fleet! :exclamation: :slight_smile: Until that is new AEC Swift/Marshall Single Decker Buses started entering the fleet in 1969.Again,it was the same old story:although the AEC Swifts were interesting and attractive,they lacked the charisma of the streamlined V-Front single decker buses! :exclamation:

When the streamlined buses went,some of the character of the town of Blackpool went too! :exclamation: - No wonder Blackpool Transport hung on to their streamlined trams! :exclamation:

The nearest Blackpool came to having streamlined buses again was when they started operating a number of Optare Delta Single Decker Buses! :exclamation: :slight_smile:

And the nearest Blackpool came to having buses with the head-turning charisma that the streamlined buses had was operating a number of ex-London Transport AEC Routemasters! :exclamation: :slight_smile: These were painted in Blackpool’s beautiful red and white livery :slight_smile:

Todays Blackpool buses are by Alexander Dennis,Tansbus,DAF,Dennis,Mercedes-Benz,and Volvo,being both single deckers and double deckers,are painted in a dual livery scheme:some are in black and yellow,while others are Palladium Grey and yellow and a handful are in other liveries.

Whilst the Bombardier Flexity2 Trams have an attractive purple and white livery.


And now for some photographs :slight_smile:

Leyland Titan PD3/1,Midland Red Front/Metro-Cammell FH41/32R DD Buses,C.No.620516, YFR 351,No.351,LEFT;C.No.620846, YFR 368,No.368,RIGHT;Leyland Titan PD3A/1,St.Helens Front/FH41/30R,C.No.LO1700, 375 DFR,No.375.CENTRE.Blackpool.FivePrime.1#

.Leyland Titan PD3,1,Midland Red Front,Metro-Cammell FH41,32R DD Buses,C.No.620516, YFR 351,No.351,LE;C.No.620846, YFR 368,No.368,RI;Leyland Titan PD3A,1,St.Helens Front,FH41,30R,C.No.LO1700, 375 DFR,No.375.CE.Blackpool.FivePrime.1#.jpg

English Electric,2 x English Electric EE305 57 HP = 114 HP Electric Motors,DT52/40C,8WE,Balloon Streamlined Tram,1934,Blackpool,No.701.Preserved-Heritage Fleet.Blackpool Heritage Tram Tours.1#

English Electric,2 x English Electric EE327 40 HP = 80 HP Electric Motors,OST52C,8WE,Open Boat Car Single Decker Streamlined Tram,1934,Blackpool,No.227.Preserved-Heritage Fleet.Blackpool Heritage Tram Tours.1#

.English Electric,2 x English Electric EE327 40 HP = 80 HP Electric Motors,OST52C,8WE,Open Boat Car Single Decker Streamlined Tram,1934,Blackpool,No.227.Preserved-Heritage Fleet.Blackpool Heritage Tram Tours.1#.jpg

Brush,2 x English Electric EE305 57 HP = 114 HP Electric Motors,ST48C,8WE,Railcoach Streamlined Single Decker Tram,1937,Blackpool,No.631.Preserved-Heritage Fleet.BlackpoolHeritage.Com.1#

Leyland Titan TD4,Full Fronted/Burlingham FH25/23C Streamlined Double Decker Omnibus,Chassis No.10235, FV 7875,11-1936,Blackpool,No.127.Styling was based on the Blackpool Balloon Streamlined Double Decker Trams. TramTalk. 1#

Leyland Tiger TS7/Burlingham FB C Engineers Car-Breakdown Lorry-Heavy Recovery Vehicle,Chassis No.13010, FV 9044,7-1937,Blackpool,No.7.Ex-FB34C SD Bus. Oxford-Chiltern-Bus-Page. 1#

Leyland Titan PD2/5,V-Front/Burlingham FH29/23C Streamlined DD Bus,Chassis No.502509,Body No.4699, EFV 300,12-1951,Blackpool,No.300,preserved.At Fleetwood Tram Sunday 1985,with Blackpool Dreadnought Tram,No.59.Fylde Bus Blog.1#

Leyland Tiger TS8,V-Front/Burlingham FB C Mobile Visitor Information Office,Chassis No.302600, BFR 380,7-1940,Blackpool,No.15.Ex-FB34C SD Bus.Looks more like a motorcoach :slight_smile: .TramTalk. 1#

.Leyland Tiger TS8,V-Front,Burlingham FB  C Mobile Visitor Information Office,Chassis No.302600, BFR 380,7-1940,Blackpool,No.15.Ex-FB34C SD Bus.Looks more like a motorcoach.TramTalk. 1#.jpg

Blackpool is famous for its wonderful electric Illuminations :slight_smile: - which have included Eddie Stobart lorry lights in recent years! :exclamation: :slight_smile: - and have
always included specially-built Illuminations Trams,theirs bodies and decorative lights are designed and arranged to look like various forms of
transport:Tram No.731 is the Blackpool Belle,an American paddle boat,Tram No.732 is the Rocket,QV photograph below,Tram No.733 is the
Western Train,an American steam railway-railroad locomotive
and their are several other Illuminations Trams :slight_smile:
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English Electric,2 x GEC WT28L 40 HP = 80 HP Electric Motors,ST47R,■■■■ Kerr 8WE Trucks,Blackpool Illuminations Single Decker Rocket Tram,1961,Blackpool,No.732 - Tramnik Number One - a play on Sputnik.Lancastrian T T N.1#

.English Electric,2 x GEC WT28L 40 HP = 80 HP Electric Motors,ST47R,■■■■ Kerr 8WE Trucks,Blackpool Illuminations Single Decker Rocket Tram,1961,Blackpool,No.732 - Tramnik Number One - a play on Sputnik.Lancastrian T T N.1#.png

The Burlingham trademark consisted of a drawing of Blackpool Tower and the tower buildings below,the lighthouse-top of the tower had two
light beams beaming down at an angle:the left hand beam has PROGRESS written on it,the right hand beam has RELIANCE written on it.
Just below this illustration it says: Bodywork By H.V.Burlingham,Blackpool.
The bottom part of the seat metal frames for Burlingham-bodied motorcoaches,buses and trams were patterned on the above Burlingham trademark :slight_smile:

Blackpool has been one of the great Meccas Of Motorcoaches - Motor Coaches - since the 1920s at least to date,and,as outlined in the text above,
from 1923 to 1989 motorcoach bodies were built in Blackpool! :slight_smile: 
just how many Blackpool-built Burlingham,Duple and Landsdowne KW-
bodied motorcoaches paid return visits to Blackpool as part of their work of transporting holidaymakers,day trippers,etc,to and from Blackpool? :question: :slight_smile: It must be in the many thousands.
Two magnificent motorcoaches that have been to Blackpool many a time are these:-
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Leyland Tiger PS1/1/Duple A-Type C35F Motorcoach,Chassis No.473433,LNo.1860,Body No.48395, EAV 458,3-1948,Maypole Motorcoaches,Lathom.
Streamlined Balloon Tram in background.Fleetwood.Jampot2.1#LEFT

Leyland Tiger PS1/1/Burlingham C35F Motorcoach,Chassis No.496118,Body No.4113, KUP 949,4-1950.Maypole Motorcoaches,Lathom.Streamlined Balloon Tram in the background.Fleetwood.Jampot2.1#RIGHT

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Continuing the theme, London Transport’s STF1 of 1935:

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A later picture!

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albion1938:
Mate of mine in London back in the '70s had a Mk6 Bentley with a 4LK. He was a lorry driver I can only guess where his fuel originated from :smiley: . I rode in it a couple of times, it went OK but had a horrible vibration right through the bodywork on idle.
Bernard

A fitter at Fred Chappels in the late 50 bought at auction an Ex Royal Daimler saloon, big bugga it was, engine had seen better days so he bunged a Gardner in it (4LW I think)
It did work for a while. I never did find out how he’d mated the gearbox to the engine.

oiltreader:
Kanto Railway of Japan Neoplan Megaliner.
Oily

Bloody hell, that’s a decent length. :wink:

Ray Smyth:
A Bristol SC4LK of Crosville Motor Services. Finch Coaches of Wigan had an ex Crosville Bristol SC4LK
in the 1970s, mainly for services to and from factories in Bolton and Farnworth. I did an occasional
trip in the Bristol, usually taking groups of anglers to canals, lakes, and rivers for their hobby.
The engine was a 4 cylinder Gardner, coupled to a 5 speed gearbox. Top speed was about 45 MPH.
Ray Smyth.

Hello Ray ,Crosville had a few of those based at Johnstown Wrexham ,they were underpowered and noisy ,Trevor

gingerfold:
I’don’t know if I’m in the right " quote" bit but looking at the Rover reminded me of a very good friend of mine John Derbyshire from Ashbourne who worked for Trent and what he didn’t know about Gardner and S.O.S. engines was superb.He put a Gardner into his Armstong Siddely.I think there was a Bentley going about with a Gardner Engine somewhere

‘Gingerfold’ will undoubtedly have more detail, but I think it was Hugh Gardner who had a Gardner-engined Bentley, and I have a feeling that there was a Gardner-engined Lagonda at the factory too. I’ve seen LK engines in a Mk IX Jaguar and also a Series 1 Land Rover and an early Range Rover, not to mention an LC Morris Commercial
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Correct, there was the 4LW powered Bentley that won its class in the Monte Carlo Rally (when it was a prestigious event.) Lagonda, Alvis, Jags all have had Gardner transplants, sales director Dion Houghton had a Jag XK150 with a Gardner engine, and there’s Paul Gardner’s Invicta with one of the three 6LKs that were made. No doubt there will be other makes of car with Gardner engines, the 4LK was a popular transplant because of its outstanding fuel economy.
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Here you are: Gardner-engined Range Rover!

4LK Gardner engined Jag.

Jaggardner 001.jpg

Encountered a couple in TK Bedfords as well over the years, and an originally BMC 5.1 powered Dennis where the crankcase breather poked through a hole cut in the engine cowling inside the cab because it was too tall! :open_mouth:

Pete.