Buses, coaches, & lorries

[dennis_javelin]

Ray Smyth:
A " Northern " AEC single decker from the top of Scotland.
Oily will have better knowledge than me as to where Northerns
vast area was. Click picture for full image. NMP.

Ray Smyth.

The depot code is for Dundee so actually hailing from the southerly part of the Northern operating area.

[ray_smyth]

Dennis Javelin:

Ray Smyth:
A " Northern " AEC single decker from the top of Scotland.
Oily will have better knowledge than me as to where Northerns
vast area was. Click picture for full image. NMP.

Ray Smyth.

The depot code is for Dundee so actually hailing from the southerly part of the Northern operating area.

Thank you Dennis, for the Northern info. Cheers, Ray.

[valkyrie]

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Wednesday,30th March,2022.

ERF-NGC-European:

Dennis Javelin:

ERF-NGC-European:
Buzzer posted this magnificent cut-away illustration on the Past & Present thread this morning, but I reckon it deserves a place on here! It looks like an SLT to me and as there is a reg plate showing, no doubt someone will come up with the SLT number!

STL1301 from 1936

I had a feeling you might come up with the goodies - well done! The drawing rather reminded me of the splendid cutaways that used to appear in Eagle/Swift comics in the 1960s. I remember there was one of a Midland Red BMMO motorway coach and also one of a Guy Wolfrunian double-decker; but I’ve never seen them since. I have always considered the STL to be the most handsome London Transport bus. I think those mid to late '30s ones were bodied by Chiswick.

A fascinating round-up of STL facts can be found here: countrybus.org/STL/STL06.htm

Ro

AEC Regent O6614168,LPTB=London Passenger Transport Board H30,26R Double Decker Omnibus,Body No.16289,BYO 986,London,5-1936,London Transport STL 1301.TN,OTL,B,Motorcoaches,L 83-84.3-2022.4#

AEC Regent O6615804,LPTB=London Passenger Transport Board H30,26R Double Decker Omnibus,Body No.17806-17813,EGO 426,London11-1937,London Transport STL 2377.TN,OTL,B,Motorcoaches,L 84.3-2022.London Bus Museum.3#

NOTE 1: Because of London Transport bus and motorcoach overhaul and re-build methods,chassis and original bodies were rarely,if ever,re-united…hence the two body numbers!

NOTE 2:The vast majority of STL Class Omnibuses had LPTB=London Passenger Transport Board bodies,while other examples had Weymann,Park Royal,etc bodies;the earlier ST Class Omnibuses had bodies by a variety of coachbuilders such as LGOC=London General Omnibus Company,Ransomes,Short,Strachans,etc.

NOTE 3:Some Prewar And Postwar London Omnibus And Motorcoach Class Codes,based on the article on this subject in Classic Bus,No.50,December 2000-January 2001.The code list within this article is supposed to be the definitive interpretation,but in at least some cases,a single letter,or more than one letter,or even all letters are open to different interpretations! In addition to the main code list there is an Alternative Explanations list of certain codes,some of these alternatives make far more sense and far more logical than the usual interpretations! And the author of the above article is not one hundred percent sure that at least some of the interpretations are definitive! He could be wrong in regard to some codes!
The letter T,for example,features and haunts a substantial number of London bus and motorcoach class codes. Some of these T codes make sense and are logical,such as TR for TigeR - Leyland Tiger,TD for Titan TD - Leyland Titan TD,and so on. But other T codes are mysterious in at least in regard to the letter T on its own and also in combination with other letters: The letter T supposedly doesn’t stand for anything other than to act as an identifier and was picked out of the alphabet virtually at random.
One story says that T stands for Tyres - pneumatic tyres on buses and another story says that T stood for covered tops on double decker buses,but both stories have rightly been dismissed. Several books on London buses and motorcoaches written by so-called ‘experts’ make no attempt to explain some,and in some cases,all of the codes
Anyway,there is an explanation for certain T codes and it is logical,makes sense and beautifully fits in with the operator’s business of people transportation
In 1929 the AEC company introduced the AEC Regent 4x2 Double Decker Omnibus - LGOC ST Class ,the AEC Renown 6x4 Double Decker Omnibus - LGOC LT Class and the AEC Regal 4x2 Single Decker Bus & Motorcoach - LGOC T - Type. A substantial number of these models and their variants - and later models - were sold to,and operated by,LGOC=London General Omnibus Company and,from 1933,its successor LPTB=London Passenger Transport Board. A substantial number of all these models also sold to many other bus and motorcoach operators both in the United Kingdom and abroad.

The T letter in the above codes appropriately stands for Transport! This fact will become even more apparent in the prewar London Bus And Motorcoach Class Codes Lists below
A freight or a combined freight-passenger aeroplane is referred to as a ‘transport’,and the London Passenger Transport Board has transport in its
title,so to classify a single model of bus,or a group of models of buses,as transport is very appropriate.

NOTE: This is a very abbreviated list of both prewar and postwar codes.

London Bus And Motorcoach Class Codes List.

Prewar:-
R _ AEC Reliance SD Omnibus & Motorcoach. = Reliance.

LS _ ADC LS Rigid Six Wheeler DD & SD Omnibus. = London Six.

T _ AEC Regal 4x2 Single Decker Bus & Motorcoach. = Transport.

ST _ AEC Regent 4x2 Double Decker Omnibus. = Short Transport.

STL _ AEC Regent 4x2 Double Decker Omnibus. = Short Transport Long.

LT _ AEC Renown 6x4 SD Bus & Motorcoach & DD Bus. = Long Transport.

DST _ Daimler CH6 4x2 Double Decker Omnibus. = Daimler Short Transport.

Q _ AEC Q SD & DD Buses & Motorcoaches. = Q.The Royal Navy had secret Q Ships that were
‘hush-hush’ as was the revolutionary
AEC Q when in development,so AEC chose the letter Q.

GF _ Gilford 4x2 SD Buses & Motorcoaches. = GilFord.

L _ Leyland Buses & Motorcoaches. = Leyland.

LN _ Leyland Lion SD Buses & Motorcoaches. = LioN.

TR _ Leyland Tiger SD Buses & Motorcoaches. = TigeR.

TC _ Leyland Titanic 6x4 Double Decker Omnibus. = TitaniC.

TD _ Leyland Titan TD DD,SD Buses & SD Motorcoaches. = Titan TD Series.Some were bodied as SD buses and motorcoaches.

STF _ AEC Regent Full Fronted Streamlined DD Omnibus. = Short Transport Long Full Fronted.

STD _ Leyland Titan TD4 & TD7 4x2 DD Omnibuses. = Short Transport Long Titan TD4 & TD7.

LTC _ AEC Renown 6x4 Single Decker Motorcoach. = Long Transport MotorCoach.

TF _ Leyland Tiger FEC=Flat Engined MotorCoach. = Tiger Flat - Horizontal Underfloor Engine.

C _ Leyland Cub SD Bus & Observation Motorcoach. = Cub.

CR _ Leyland Cub REC=Rear Engined MotorCoach. = Cub Rear Engine.

RT _ AEC Regent MkIII 4x2 DD Omnibus. = RegenT

G _ Guy Arab Wartime Utility DD Omnibus. = Guy.

B _ Bristol K5G,K6A Wartime Utility DD Omnibus. = Bristol.

D _ Daimler CWA,CWD Wartime Utility DD Omnibus. = Daimler.

Postwar:-

STD _ Leyland Titan PD1 DD Omnibus. = Short Transport Long Titan PD1.

TD _ Leyland Tiger PS1 Single Decker Omnibus. = Tiger Single Decker.

RTW _ Leyland Titan 6RT Double Decker Omnibus. = RT 8ft Wide.Leyland initially designated the model OPD2/3,then
6RT.

RTL _ Leyland Titan 7RT Double Decker Omnibus. = RT Leyland.Leyland initially designated the model Special
PD2/3,then 7RT.

RTC _ AEC Regent MkIII Double Decker Motorcoach. = RegenT MotorCoach.

SRT _ AEC Regent Double Decker Omnibus. = STL with RT body.

RLH _ AEC Regent MkIII Double Decker Omnibus. = Regent Low Height.

RF _ AEC Regal MkIV SD Buses & Motorcoaches = Regal Flat Engine -Horizontal Underfloor Engine.

RFW _ AEC Regal MkIV Single Decker Motorcoach. = Regal Flat Engine,8Ft Wide. - Horizontal Underfloor Engine.

BEA _ AEC Regal MkIV Deck & A Half Observation Motorcoach. = British European Airways. London Airport motorcoaches.

GS _ Guy Vixen Single Decker Omnibus. = Guy Special.

RM _ AEC-Park Royal Vehicles Routemaster DD Omnibus. = RouteMaster.27ft 6in long,open rear platform bus.

RMA _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Forward Entrance DD Omnibus. = RouteMaster Airways.For British European Airways=BEA.27ft
6in long.

RMC _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Double Decker Motorcoach. = RouteMaster Greenline MotorCoach.27ft 6in long,rear platform
doors.

RMF _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Forward Entrance DD Omnibus. = RouteMaster Forward Entrance.For Northern General Transport
Company.30ft long.

RML _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Double Decker Omnibus. = RouteMaster Lengthened.30ft long,open rear platform bus.

RCL _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Double Decker Motorcoach. = Routemaster MotorCoach Lengthened.30ft long.

SRM _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Double Decker Omnibus. = Silver Jubilee-Liveried RouteMaster.

RMT _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Open Top Double Decker Omnibus. = RouteMaster Open Topper.

ERM _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Open Top Double Decker Omnibus. = Extended Open Top RouteMaster Lengthened.

FRM _ AEC-PRV Routemaster,Rear-Engined,DD Omnibus. = Front Entrance RouteMaster.

RC _ AEC Reliance Motorcoach. = Reliance MotorCoach.

MS _ Metro-Scania Single Decker Omnibus. = Metro-Scania.

MD _ Metropolitan Double Decker Omnibus. = Metropolitan Double Decker.

MBA _ AEC Merlin Single Decker Omnibus. = Merlin Bus,RedArrow.

LS _ Leyland National Single Decker Omnibus. = Leyland Single Decker.

TT _ Ford Thames Trader DD Bicycle Transporter-Bus. = Thames Trader.

XA _ Leyland Atlantean Double Decker Omnibus. = Experimental Atlantean.

XF _ Daimler Fleetline Double Decker Omnibus. = Experimental Fleetline.

DMS _ Daimler Fleetline Double Decker Omnibus = DaiMler Standee. The Londoner.

DM _ Daimler Fleetline Double Decker Omnibus. = DaiMler. Two-person-operation. The Londoner.

OM _ BMMO D9 Open Topper Double Decker Sightseeing Bus. = Old Motor.Prince Marshall was the owner of the
operating company of this class,
Obsolete Fleet,and the Old Motor historic motor vehicle magazine.

M _ MCW Metrobus Double Decker Omnibus. = MCW = Metro Cammell Weymann.

L _ Leyland Olympian ON Double Decker Omnibus. = Leyland.

H _ Dennis Dominator Double Decker Omnibus. = Hestair. Hestair was the parent company of Dennis.

V _ Volvo Ailsa B55 Double Decker Omnibus. = Volvo.

LX _ Leyland Lynx Single Decker Omnibus. = Leyland Lynx.

DA _ DAF SB220 Single Decker Omnibus. = DAF SB220.

RN _ Renault PR100/2 Single Decker Omnibus. = ReNault.

SA _ Scania N113CRB Double Decker Omnibus. = ScaniA.

LT _ Wright New Routemaster,Hybrid,Double Decker Omnibus. = London Transport.

Wright NBFL* - New Routemaster,Hybrid Diesel Electric,Double Decker Omnibus,LTZ 1121,London United,Ratp Group,LT121. Au Morandarte,London,Wikimedia.3#

*NBFL=New Bus For London was the original name-designation,but it was re-designated New Routemaster and nicknamed Borismaster after its instigator Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

From the latest London Transport omnibus,the above London Transport New Routemaster to the earliest London Transport LT:-

AEC Renown 663166,LGOC H33,23R,6x4,Double Decker Omnibus,Body No.12796,GK 5323,LGOC-London Transport LT 165.LT= Long Transport.TK,OTL,B,LMotorcoaches 84.3-2022.CCMV.4#

Guy Wulfrunian Double Decker Bus and a Commer 5-Ton,TS3-Engined,4x2,Refuse Lorry - a cut price Karrier Gamecock.Eagle Comic Motor Vehicle Cutaways.TN,OTL,B,L,Motorcoaches,84,3-2022.3#

London Transport Tram and Trolleybus;BMMO=Birmingham Midland Motor Omnibus Midland Red CM5T Motorcoach.Eagle Comic Motor Vehicle Cutaways.TN,OTL,B,L,Motorcoaches,84,3-2022.3#

AEC Regal 6821A507,Alexander C35F Motorcoach,Body No.4039,DMS 125,Stirling,5-1951,W.Alexander,Northern,Falkirk,A99.TN,OTL,B,Motorcoaches,L,84.3-2022.3#

We now return to our fabled capital city of London and AEC,The Builders of London’s Buses,Motorcoaches & Trolleybuses in the form of the first omnibus to be privately preserved the magnificent AEC Regal,LGOC T31 :-
8.
AEC Regal 662058,LGOC B29R Single Decker Omnibus,Body No10253,UU 6646,12-1929,London General Omnibus Company T31.T=Transport.TN,OTL,B,Motorcoaches,L 84,3-2021.FlickRiver.4#

VALKYRIE

[froggy55]

I drove this MB O302 daily for years back in the '80s. Fitted with the OM 360 192 bhp engine and a 5-speed gearbox. Manual doors and unefficient heating, but brilliant engine and excellent roadgrip, especially on snow and ice.

[erf-ngc-european]

VALKYRIE:
TruckNetUK . Old Time Lorries . Buses,Motorcoaches & Lorries,83-84 .London Transport Omnibuses,Eagle Motor Vehicle Cutaways,Etc. VALKYRIE

Wednesday,30th March,2022.

ERF-NGC-European:

Dennis Javelin:

ERF-NGC-European:
Buzzer posted this magnificent cut-away illustration on the Past & Present thread this morning, but I reckon it deserves a place on here! It looks like an SLT to me and as there is a reg plate showing, no doubt someone will come up with the SLT number!

1

STL1301 from 1936

I had a feeling you might come up with the goodies - well done! The drawing rather reminded me of the splendid cutaways that used to appear in Eagle/Swift comics in the 1960s. I remember there was one of a Midland Red BMMO motorway coach and also one of a Guy Wolfrunian double-decker; but I’ve never seen them since. I have always considered the STL to be the most handsome London Transport bus. I think those mid to late '30s ones were bodied by Chiswick.

A fascinating round-up of STL facts can be found here: countrybus.org/STL/STL06.htm

Ro

0

AEC Regent O6614168,LPTB=London Passenger Transport Board H30,26R Double Decker Omnibus,Body No.16289,BYO 986,London,5-1936,London Transport STL 1301.TN,OTL,B,Motorcoaches,L 83-84.3-2022.4#
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AEC Regent O6615804,LPTB=London Passenger Transport Board H30,26R Double Decker Omnibus,Body No.17806-17813,EGO 426,London11-1937,London Transport STL 2377.TN,OTL,B,Motorcoaches,L 84.3-2022.London Bus Museum.3#
6

NOTE 1: Because of London Transport bus and motorcoach overhaul and re-build methods,chassis and original bodies were rarely,if ever,re-united…hence the two body numbers!

NOTE 2:The vast majority of STL Class Omnibuses had LPTB=London Passenger Transport Board bodies,while other examples had Weymann,Park Royal,etc bodies;the earlier ST Class Omnibuses had bodies by a variety of coachbuilders such as LGOC=London General Omnibus Company,Ransomes,Short,Strachans,etc.

NOTE 3:Some Prewar And Postwar London Omnibus And Motorcoach Class Codes,based on the article on this subject in Classic Bus,No.50,December 2000-January 2001.The code list within this article is supposed to be the definitive interpretation,but in at least some cases,a single letter,or more than one letter,or even all letters are open to different interpretations! In addition to the main code list there is an Alternative Explanations list of certain codes,some of these alternatives make far more sense and far more logical than the usual interpretations! And the author of the above article is not one hundred percent sure that at least some of the interpretations are definitive! He could be wrong in regard to some codes!
The letter T,for example,features and haunts a substantial number of London bus and motorcoach class codes. Some of these T codes make sense and are logical,such as TR for TigeR - Leyland Tiger,TD for Titan TD - Leyland Titan TD,and so on. But other T codes are mysterious in at least in regard to the letter T on its own and also in combination with other letters: The letter T supposedly doesn’t stand for anything other than to act as an identifier and was picked out of the alphabet virtually at random.
One story says that T stands for Tyres - pneumatic tyres on buses and another story says that T stood for covered tops on double decker buses,but both stories have rightly been dismissed. Several books on London buses and motorcoaches written by so-called ‘experts’ make no attempt to explain some,and in some cases,all of the codes
Anyway,there is an explanation for certain T codes and it is logical,makes sense and beautifully fits in with the operator’s business of people transportation
In 1929 the AEC company introduced the AEC Regent 4x2 Double Decker Omnibus - LGOC ST Class ,the AEC Renown 6x4 Double Decker Omnibus - LGOC LT Class and the AEC Regal 4x2 Single Decker Bus & Motorcoach - LGOC T - Type. A substantial number of these models and their variants - and later models - were sold to,and operated by,LGOC=London General Omnibus Company and,from 1933,its successor LPTB=London Passenger Transport Board. A substantial number of all these models also sold to many other bus and motorcoach operators both in the United Kingdom and abroad.

The T letter in the above codes appropriately stands for Transport! This fact will become even more apparent in the prewar London Bus And Motorcoach Class Codes Lists below
A freight or a combined freight-passenger aeroplane is referred to as a ‘transport’,and the London Passenger Transport Board has transport in its
title,so to classify a single model of bus,or a group of models of buses,as transport is very appropriate.

NOTE: This is a very abbreviated list of both prewar and postwar codes.

London Bus And Motorcoach Class Codes List.

Prewar:-
R _ AEC Reliance SD Omnibus & Motorcoach. = Reliance.

LS _ ADC LS Rigid Six Wheeler DD & SD Omnibus. = London Six.

T _ AEC Regal 4x2 Single Decker Bus & Motorcoach. = Transport.

ST _ AEC Regent 4x2 Double Decker Omnibus. = Short Transport.

STL _ AEC Regent 4x2 Double Decker Omnibus. = Short Transport Long.

LT _ AEC Renown 6x4 SD Bus & Motorcoach & DD Bus. = Long Transport.

DST _ Daimler CH6 4x2 Double Decker Omnibus. = Daimler Short Transport.

Q _ AEC Q SD & DD Buses & Motorcoaches. = Q.The Royal Navy had secret Q Ships that were
‘hush-hush’ as was the revolutionary
AEC Q when in development,so AEC chose the letter Q.

GF _ Gilford 4x2 SD Buses & Motorcoaches. = GilFord.

L _ Leyland Buses & Motorcoaches. = Leyland.

LN _ Leyland Lion SD Buses & Motorcoaches. = LioN.

TR _ Leyland Tiger SD Buses & Motorcoaches. = TigeR.

TC _ Leyland Titanic 6x4 Double Decker Omnibus. = TitaniC.

TD _ Leyland Titan TD DD,SD Buses & SD Motorcoaches. = Titan TD Series.Some were bodied as SD buses and motorcoaches.

STF _ AEC Regent Full Fronted Streamlined DD Omnibus. = Short Transport Long Full Fronted.

STD _ Leyland Titan TD4 & TD7 4x2 DD Omnibuses. = Short Transport Long Titan TD4 & TD7.

LTC _ AEC Renown 6x4 Single Decker Motorcoach. = Long Transport MotorCoach.

TF _ Leyland Tiger FEC=Flat Engined MotorCoach. = Tiger Flat - Horizontal Underfloor Engine.

C _ Leyland Cub SD Bus & Observation Motorcoach. = Cub.

CR _ Leyland Cub REC=Rear Engined MotorCoach. = Cub Rear Engine.

RT _ AEC Regent MkIII 4x2 DD Omnibus. = RegenT

G _ Guy Arab Wartime Utility DD Omnibus. = Guy.

B _ Bristol K5G,K6A Wartime Utility DD Omnibus. = Bristol.

D _ Daimler CWA,CWD Wartime Utility DD Omnibus. = Daimler.

Postwar:-

STD _ Leyland Titan PD1 DD Omnibus. = Short Transport Long Titan PD1.

TD _ Leyland Tiger PS1 Single Decker Omnibus. = Tiger Single Decker.

RTW _ Leyland Titan 6RT Double Decker Omnibus. = RT 8ft Wide.Leyland initially designated the model OPD2/3,then
6RT.

RTL _ Leyland Titan 7RT Double Decker Omnibus. = RT Leyland.Leyland initially designated the model Special
PD2/3,then 7RT.

RTC _ AEC Regent MkIII Double Decker Motorcoach. = RegenT MotorCoach.

SRT _ AEC Regent Double Decker Omnibus. = STL with RT body.

RLH _ AEC Regent MkIII Double Decker Omnibus. = Regent Low Height.

RF _ AEC Regal MkIV SD Buses & Motorcoaches = Regal Flat Engine -Horizontal Underfloor Engine.

RFW _ AEC Regal MkIV Single Decker Motorcoach. = Regal Flat Engine,8Ft Wide. - Horizontal Underfloor Engine.

BEA _ AEC Regal MkIV Deck & A Half Observation Motorcoach. = British European Airways. London Airport motorcoaches.

GS _ Guy Vixen Single Decker Omnibus. = Guy Special.

RM _ AEC-Park Royal Vehicles Routemaster DD Omnibus. = RouteMaster.27ft 6in long,open rear platform bus.

RMA _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Forward Entrance DD Omnibus. = RouteMaster Airways.For British European Airways=BEA.27ft
6in long.

RMC _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Double Decker Motorcoach. = RouteMaster Greenline MotorCoach.27ft 6in long,rear platform
doors.

RMF _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Forward Entrance DD Omnibus. = RouteMaster Forward Entrance.For Northern General Transport
Company.30ft long.

RML _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Double Decker Omnibus. = RouteMaster Lengthened.30ft long,open rear platform bus.

RCL _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Double Decker Motorcoach. = Routemaster MotorCoach Lengthened.30ft long.

SRM _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Double Decker Omnibus. = Silver Jubilee-Liveried RouteMaster.

RMT _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Open Top Double Decker Omnibus. = RouteMaster Open Topper.

ERM _ AEC-PRV Routemaster Open Top Double Decker Omnibus. = Extended Open Top RouteMaster Lengthened.

FRM _ AEC-PRV Routemaster,Rear-Engined,DD Omnibus. = Front Entrance RouteMaster.

RC _ AEC Reliance Motorcoach. = Reliance MotorCoach.

MS _ Metro-Scania Single Decker Omnibus. = Metro-Scania.

MD _ Metropolitan Double Decker Omnibus. = Metropolitan Double Decker.

MBA _ AEC Merlin Single Decker Omnibus. = Merlin Bus,RedArrow.

LS _ Leyland National Single Decker Omnibus. = Leyland Single Decker.

TT _ Ford Thames Trader DD Bicycle Transporter-Bus. = Thames Trader.

XA _ Leyland Atlantean Double Decker Omnibus. = Experimental Atlantean.

XF _ Daimler Fleetline Double Decker Omnibus. = Experimental Fleetline.

DMS _ Daimler Fleetline Double Decker Omnibus = DaiMler Standee. The Londoner.

DM _ Daimler Fleetline Double Decker Omnibus. = DaiMler. Two-person-operation. The Londoner.

OM _ BMMO D9 Open Topper Double Decker Sightseeing Bus. = Old Motor.Prince Marshall was the owner of the
operating company of this class,
Obsolete Fleet,and the Old Motor historic motor vehicle magazine.

M _ MCW Metrobus Double Decker Omnibus. = MCW = Metro Cammell Weymann.

L _ Leyland Olympian ON Double Decker Omnibus. = Leyland.

H _ Dennis Dominator Double Decker Omnibus. = Hestair. Hestair was the parent company of Dennis.

V _ Volvo Ailsa B55 Double Decker Omnibus. = Volvo.

LX _ Leyland Lynx Single Decker Omnibus. = Leyland Lynx.

DA _ DAF SB220 Single Decker Omnibus. = DAF SB220.

RN _ Renault PR100/2 Single Decker Omnibus. = ReNault.

SA _ Scania N113CRB Double Decker Omnibus. = ScaniA.

LT _ Wright New Routemaster,Hybrid,Double Decker Omnibus. = London Transport.

Wright NBFL* - New Routemaster,Hybrid Diesel Electric,Double Decker Omnibus,LTZ 1121,London United,Ratp Group,LT121. Au Morandarte,London,Wikimedia.3#
5

*NBFL=New Bus For London was the original name-designation,but it was re-designated New Routemaster and nicknamed Borismaster after its instigator Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

From the latest London Transport omnibus,the above London Transport New Routemaster to the earliest London Transport LT:-

AEC Renown 663166,LGOC H33,23R,6x4,Double Decker Omnibus,Body No.12796,GK 5323,LGOC-London Transport LT 165.LT= Long Transport.TK,OTL,B,LMotorcoaches 84.3-2022.CCMV.4#
4

Guy Wulfrunian Double Decker Bus and a Commer 5-Ton,TS3-Engined,4x2,Refuse Lorry - a cut price Karrier Gamecock.Eagle Comic Motor Vehicle Cutaways.TN,OTL,B,L,Motorcoaches,84,3-2022.3#
3

London Transport Tram and Trolleybus;BMMO=Birmingham Midland Motor Omnibus Midland Red CM5T Motorcoach.Eagle Comic Motor Vehicle Cutaways.TN,OTL,B,L,Motorcoaches,84,3-2022.3#
2

AEC Regal 6821A507,Alexander C35F Motorcoach,Body No.4039,DMS 125,Stirling,5-1951,W.Alexander,Northern,Falkirk,A99.TN,OTL,B,Motorcoaches,L,84.3-2022.3#
1

We now return to our fabled capital city of London and AEC,The Builders of London’s Buses,Motorcoaches & Trolleybuses in the form of the first omnibus to be privately preserved the magnificent AEC Regal,LGOC T31 :-
8.
AEC Regal 662058,LGOC B29R Single Decker Omnibus,Body No10253,UU 6646,12-1929,London General Omnibus Company T31.T=Transport.TN,OTL,B,Motorcoaches,L 84,3-2021.FlickRiver.4#
0

VALKYRIE

You should have worked for Bletchley Park on the Enigma Code Valkyrie! A fascinating breakdown of the bewildering LT codes. And thanks for finding the Wulfrunian and BMMO cut-away drawings

Ro

[oiltreader]

Western Cape South Africa, credit to Bob Adams for the photo.
Oily

[oiltreader]

Couple thanks to bilbobagweed for sharing.
Oily

[oiltreader]

One for Leyland600, credit to eastleighbusman for the photo.
Oily

[oiltreader]

Ray Smyth:
A " Northern " AEC single decker from the top of Scotland.
Oily will have better knowledge than me as to where Northerns
vast area was. Click picture for full image. NMP.

Ray Smyth.

Yes Ray, Northern area from Dundee north to Fraserburgh and Peteread and west to Elgin with HQ at Aberdeen. The original livery would have been Walter Alexander&Sons cream and blue.
Oily

[ray_smyth]

Some more great pictures Eddie. I remember the green bus when it was with Fishwicks of Leyland.
I had a search for detail, and it comes up as a VDL…Does that mean it is a Volvo ? The 2 bus chassis
on the Boyes artic are frequently seen near me on the M6, and I usually assume they are from Dennis
at Guildford and en route to Alexanders at Falkirk. Regards, Ray Smyth.

[leyland600]

Great friends, neighbouring fellow operators and relatives.
Cheers. Leyland 600

[dennis_javelin]

Ray Smyth:
Some more great pictures Eddie. I remember the green bus when it was with Fishwicks of Leyland.
I had a search for detail, and it comes up as a VDL…Does that mean it is a Volvo ? The 2 bus chassis
on the Boyes artic are frequently seen near me on the M6, and I usually assume they are from Dennis
at Guildford and en route to Alexanders at Falkirk. Regards, Ray Smyth.

VDL are the old DAF & Bova set up. This one is an SB200. Dennis stopped production at Guildford about 15 months ago. They now get their own chassis built in Farington but I believe that Boyes also collect the BYD’s that are currently imported and deliver them to Falkirk. The E500 chassis for Berlin (198 of them) that are currently being built in Farington are bodied at Scarborough. When this order is completed I believe that there are plans for the BYD’s to then be assembled at Farington along with what little orders (if any) they are taking for diesel engined and possibly hydrogen buses.

[ray_smyth]

Dennis Javelin:

Ray Smyth:
Some more great pictures Eddie. I remember the green bus when it was with Fishwicks of Leyland.
I had a search for detail, and it comes up as a VDL…Does that mean it is a Volvo ? The 2 bus chassis
on the Boyes artic are frequently seen near me on the M6, and I usually assume they are from Dennis
at Guildford and en route to Alexanders at Falkirk. Regards, Ray Smyth.

VDL are the old DAF & Bova set up. This one is an SB200. Dennis stopped production at Guildford about 15 months ago. They now get their own chassis built in Farington but I believe that Boyes also collect the BYD’s that are currently imported and deliver them to Falkirk. The E500 chassis for Berlin (198 of them) that are currently being built in Farington are bodied at Scarborough. When this order is completed I believe that there are plans for the BYD’s to then be assembled at Farington along with what little orders (if any) they are taking for diesel engined and possibly hyrdogen buses.

Dennis, Thank you for the above information. The locations you mentioned reminded me of days gone by,
Leyland Motors at Farington and Plaxton at Scarborough. Ray Smyth.

[froggy55]

Of course, I never put a foot in Africa, but never saw this before.

[froggy55]

Love this endless VAL!

[froggy55]

The same MB O302 as I had, but RHD.

[tyneside]

Few buses and trolleys from the North east Tyneside

[jshepguis]

NMP but this famous bus appeared yesterday on a FB page.

[dennis_javelin]

jshepguis:
NMP but this famous bus appeared yesterday on a FB page.

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Just the job

[froggy55]

Unusual front for this VAL. Any idea about its bodymaker?