eagerbeaver:
Problem is though mate you are not worth £15 an hour and Maritime do not pay you that
I am the first to say truck drivers wages are cack, but £15 per hour for doing Amazon RDC’s in a curtainsider? Don’t think that’s realistic fella.
I can assure you, when my nightshift allowance and tax-free meal allowance are considered, which are continual parts of my salary, my flat wage is only pennies shy of £15 per hour. I also work a few shifts per week which are less than 12 hours, yet I get paid 12 hours (did 8 1/2 hours last week for £172). When I factor these in over the course of a year (I like mathematics) I earn £15 per hour before tax. It’s the contract that says £12 per hour, which is the flat flat flat wage, before all the daily extras.
And I am categorically saying I am worth £15 per hour, because of the way I approach the job. No damage, no infringements, and all A’s on the fuel each week, no shennanigans, never ring in sick, a positive can do attitude, etc. A bloke with my attitude IS worth £15 p/h to anybody who owns a fleet of lorries and wants them driven efficiently, on time, without any drama or damage. I would not apply for a job paying less than that, which is why I always earn that. It’s all about how we value ourselves. If I was over-valuing myself, which you imply, I wouldn’t be in a job, but I’ve worked on class 1’s continuously for 13 years, the last 3 of which (where I have felt fully competent and confident of myself) have been what I regard as well paid.
Mate, please stop talking ■■■■■■■■.
You are salaried. You also do loads of shifts over 12 hours. You have also included your fuel bonus payable in December. By your own words you are ’ pennies short of £15 per hour '.
YOU ARE NOT ON £15 PER HOUR FFS. I also assume you do 4 on 4 off? I know Maritime like to make you think that you have landed the best lorry driving job on earth, but the rest of us on here are not as easy to brainwash
I am glad you enjoy your job and conditions. I suppose you can’t wait to check the Microlise print out on the office wall to check your position on the good boys fuel list?
I kind of agree with eagerbeaver. Yes, you might be earning nearly £15ph, BUT… your including your night shift allowance, your shift allowance for working 4 on 4 off (weekends & bank holidays), your meal allowance and a fuel bonus. Take all that away & what are you earning, probably about a tenner.
If you really think your talents are worth £15ph, shouldn’t that be your basic for Mon-Fri day shifts? Not at 1am on a sunday morning after bonuses?
ok, calm down, all I stated earlier is that I earn £15 p/h, which I actually do, with allowances, which are always a constant. You say “take all that away”, but it never is taken away. It is earnings. I’m happy with it. I’m happy with nights as it fits my natural body clock, and I do 4 on 4 off which suits me down to the ground. Weekends mean nothing to me, and I’ve never worked Mon-Fri days in my driving life, because I don’t want to.
Rjan:
Instead of trying to inflate perceptions about the amount of skill required for driving a lorry, it would be better to ask how essential is the role, and what is it’s value to society?
A wonderful notion in which socialism decides what is essential and what value it has - and the rest of us pay for it!
Isn’t that the problem with the wonderful capitalist system?
Places value on job cuts, pay cuts, shareholder returns, tax evasion, and so on, and the rest of us pay for it?
The market is the complete opposite of democracy - one pound one vote, in which the rich get a billion times more votes than the rest of us in deciding what things are worth.
And then little people say they want to leave the EU in order to regain “sovereignty”.
Why don’t they take real sovereignty back from the market? Back to the majority, instead of the wealthy, making decisions?
I can see Ezydriver’s points here, he’s averaging his wages out across the board, which in all honesty is the only way you can compare one job to another.
Simply put divide the top line earned by the hours you actually spend at work earning it…forget night out money cos that’s a separate thing and unless you live like a bloody hermit cab cooking etc you’ll spend nearly all of it, night out pay should be regarded as compo not as part of a wage and should never be included in your take home pay calculations.
You have to factor in antisocial hours to the end figure and the number of days worked per month/year, for example if someone on 4/4 shifts (working lots of weekends and many bank hols) starting at say 4am is averaging £15 an hour, then does that mean the driver on 6am starts working a 5 day week averaging £13 is worse off?, only you as an individual can answer that, if the anti social hours suit your life then you’re £3 an hour better off (or even £2 an hour better off ), if they cause strife at home then maybe not worth doing.
Don’t forget to factor in holiday pay, if bonuses and meal monies are not included in holiday pay that knocks your average, that applies to all jobs.
Its the monthly/yearly average pay per hour that counts, not how its made up.
chrisdalott:
everybody deserves 10 an hour. the whole country needs a pay rise
So, the minimum salary for a full time job (40 hours) should be £20,800?
There will be an awful lot of managers out there on low 20’s wanting a substantial pay rise as well to reinstate the gap, otherwise why bother?
Everything will just get more expensive to pay for it all & then a few years down the line Jeremy Corbyn will be campaigning for £12ph…
Honestly, the minimum wage is getting too high if anything. The real problem is all these lousy zero hour contracts & the ever increasing popularity of agencies & the ‘flexible workforce’, ie. employees with bugger all financial security.
yes exactly. why bother
managers (and drivers) will have an alternative. if i can make the same rate working in the hospitality industry as i do dragging myself out of bed at 3.30 am and sitting in a RDC waiting room i will do it. many would. employers would have to raise wages for the skilled jobs as well or there’d be no staff. no ones going to drive for Downtons on 9ph if mcdonalds pay 10ph
a rising tide lifts all boats
the country needs a pay rise.
The UK sits on its own as a rich economy that experienced a strong economic performance while the real wages of its workers dropped.
£10 an hour is perfectly good and well if your doing some decent hours, if your doing a 36/42hr week then it’s not a decent wage to live on once you’ve removed stamp/tax etc.
), if they cause strife at home then maybe not worth doing.
Coffee is good too.
