Nice one Chris, do not think too much of the rope & sheeting, that load could fall off, hope you didn’t do it Harry, ha ha ha, I know I am a thorn in your side, but I can’t help it. Sandman Norman
Norman Ingram:
Nice one Chris, do not think too much of the rope & sheeting, that load could fall off, hope you didn’t do it Harry, ha ha ha, I know I am a thorn in your side, but I can’t help it. Sandman Norman
These won’t fall off Norman,a load of Perkins Engines at Luton IIRC,Peterborough BRS I think.
This is an AEC MK3 MM Ghia version as it has two wipers and a fog and spot light,must be the shop stewards motor. 
A fine machine. 
Hello Red and rusty Crooners
What a great sight these restored BRS Lorries must have been on the day of the 60 the anniversary .
I read the wailing under the arches and thanked the Lord there was no sound on this forum .
Super pictures Chris Webb , real working Motors one from the Whittesley , Cambridge depot and the other could be Peterborough , just as I remember but I cant see any rust mustve had a pot of red paint in the cab , for that bumper must`ve been doing a Hitler salute , pushed back against a wall and painted , been there done that Norm .
Regards Frenchy
hiya,
chris there’s one thing for sure the additional lights would be factory fitted the driver or the BRS wouldn’t have had the job done, it was a case of how they arrived was how they stayed.
thanks harry long retired.
When I was o the old red & rust, I never seen those old wagons so clean and bright, except the new ones, still waiting for someone to tell me when BRS finished, I was there till the end of 1977, still going in to the depot in 1978, then April I was on Bulwalks for Carlsberg, and never went near a depot, or in one. Sandman Norman
hiya,
hello norm, don’t know when the BRS finished totally i myself was about 1978 but depot still open although closure was imminent, go on say it, the rats leaving a sinking ship but had the chance of other work and local too not the same money but home every night and the load slid out of the back which was a real boon my back was starting to have good days and bad days, but had the depot had a future i could quite happily have soldiered on until retirement the best job i’ve ever had and thats by a big margin, in fact if i hadn’t got a start with the old red and rust in the early 60s my driving career would have been very short lived, and driver labourer for a local authority was next best to the BRS, always knowing your pay was going to be spot on was a plus to me, the amount of times i’ ve had to virtually drag the TM through the traffic office window when working in the private sector to get what i’ve earned and had omitted from the pay packet it’s too many times to remember. thanks harry long retired.
According to Wikipedia BRS was renamed National Freight Corporation in 1969 and sold off to it’s employees in 1982.BRS Parcels was renamed Roadline and finally Lynx in 1997.
Well there you are,hope that helps red and rusty Norman and I’ve seen TSMs dragged through windows as well,either t’money wasn’t right or the driver got another bad job.Handball bricks out of Peterborough maybe or Liverpool docks (a bob to look after yer wagon mister) 
Norman,any of that Carlsberg left?
Those were the days…not.
hiya, tell you what chris your’e a mine of information, to me it was always BRS nowt else if ever there was anything happening within the firm so long as it didn’t affect the wages or the job couldn’t care less did the best i could with what i had, certainly never once bought anything to customise a motor used to sling the odd bit of carpet over the engine cover to try and quieten the thing but that was it couldn’t be doing with all them lights and silly air horns what’s that all about, more rubbish to be maintained and if it was the old red and rust doing the mechanicing if it wasn’t standard it didn’t get looked at, tell you what i’d be laughed off the road in this day and age for my old fashioned views, but if it came down to work done i’d have got the extra load in while the others was busy fitting all the unsightly bits and bobs and of course all that washing and polishing. viva le yesterday. by jove i feel better for that.
thanks harry long retired.
Hello Red and Rust fans
Piccy shows what BRS did best , beating up the opposition with sheets blowing in the wind , I drove a similar 65 AEC Mk5 Park Royal for BRS a couple of years before the ergos , they were good Lorries to drive , pulled well and but early 690 AEC engines used to rattle appalingly at certain revs and regularly threw injector pipes that were never clamped down , the fitters would always give use plenty of spare pipes and it didnt improve for the ergos , our Mk 5s were short wheel base and with a full load used to bounce quite alarmingly Ive good meories of these Lorries but never had any photos . Thanks Chris youre quite the useful anorack for this thread , I left in 73 but kept in touch wth a couple of fellas who did well finacially with the privatisation . Harry I always cleaned the Red bits , I was proud of my Lorries it was BRS managemnt that couldnt give a stuff , I remember the Depot Manager saying BRS was here only to give a service to the public not make money .
Vive la Red and Rust regards Frenchy
hiya, frenchy the old PC is acting up at the minute running long posts and stuff, i haven’t a clue about the things so i’ll just have to wait until the young guy across the street sorts it for me , but here goes like that action pic the only time i passed anything in my young days was when they was coming towards me or in a layby but the last thing i had was a seddon not a sed ak with a 290 roller in it and it would do a comfortable 90 that was just before i finished with the red and rust about 1978 got a good few dodgy’s out of that old girl, i can remember blackburn depot had two depot managers at one time, something to do with the nationalisation program and both on full DMs pay and that wasn’t a big place, i personally don’t think either of them gave a toss but they was both nice people and approachable and if you did your job never bothered you, thats what i liked about the old BRS nobody on your back except one or two of the older hands and that was maybe because you’d done a job too quickly and that was only when a new starter, i sharp got the message and could soon hang it out with best of them proper drivers proper era and a proper employer, happy days. thanks harry long retired.
Harry me old mucker is it you leaving big blank gaps in the forum , you passed that one over , 90 mph and you trusted the old Red and Rust that well do do that sort of speed what was you in Hawiian overdrive or silent 7th .
Regards Frenchy
hiya, no frenchy not out of collar she was a one off genuinely did that speed when being driven definitely a bit of a freak did a bit of night trunk with her and you could wind her up to that speed on the level on the A1 fully loaded and i did it regularly there was about four or five of them came from team valley and she was the typical red and ruster crumpled mudguards and a patch or two drove a couple of the others and you could get about 70 out of them but i think she was inadvertantly opened up at some time by the original driver or his mate worked in the fitters shop. thanks harry long retired.
frenchy:
Hello Red and Rust fans
Piccy shows what BRS did best , beating up the opposition with sheets blowing in the wind , I drove a similar 65 AEC Mk5 Park Royal for BRS a couple of years before the ergos , they were good Lorries to drive , pulled well and but early 690 AEC engines used to rattle appalingly at certain revs and regularly threw injector pipes that were never clamped down , the fitters would always give use plenty of spare pipes and it didnt improve for the ergos , our Mk 5s were short wheel base and with a full load used to bounce quite alarmingly Ive good meories of these Lorries but never had any photo`s .I remember changing injector pipes regular on the AEC Mk5 Frenchy,I always had a full set swinging on a hook at the back of the cab.The last Mk5 I had was a Mammoth Major tanker,ex Cawoods Fuel Oils,1963 vintage,and it had the 690 engine with the CAV rotary pump and was a great machine.I never had to change one injector pipe on her unlike the ones with Simms injector pumps.That’s a great old photo by the way,what company owns the 8-legger Guy,I seem to recognise the signwriting?
I can smell diesel,now where’s that spanner
hiya, the AECs i found to be pretty good chris never any problems with the mandator’s but the mercury’s used to do head gaskets pretty frequent and have changed the odd injector pipe on them, but on the whole a lot more comfy than the bristol’s and leyland’s of that era talking mid sixties, what was comfort then. thanks harry long retired.
Just a bit of fun .
Would you say this was a Cabover in the true sense of the word Harry .
Ive never seen AECs with dizzy pumps Chris but most of the problems were the fitters didnt use the injector pipe clamps so they vibrated and broke usually at the injectors so to save diesel spewing all over the shop again which wasnt very pleasant it was easier when you had 5 minutes the tape the spare pipes in place ready to change as soon as they broke . Got myself on the mat once for breaking one on purose on an ergo so save going up the road and with none in the cab I went back to the depot and got rumbled , didnt try pulling that one again .
Regards Frenchy
hiya, tell you what frenchy you’re a whiz with the PC i’m a step lower than useless with the thing, people try to show me how to go on but i’m not able to absorb what people try to teach me, i think i should try communicating with smoke signals but knowing me the fire would go out before i was half way through, just not ready for the 21st century i’d be allright with that ox cart could live at that speed now and not much to go wrong but knowing me the ox would croak en-route and i’d finish up having to pull the cart myself, anyway pal thats a great pic you’ve made my day, thanks harry long retired.
Ha Ha Harry
Dont knock it mate that was my first introduction to Haulage , anyway I think that poor Ox is thinking pure humiliaton dont you .
Regards Frenchy
hiya, never humiliated when in or under a red and rust cab worked for too many privateers to be anything but proud, viva la BRS, one thing about the driving seat in your motor you’d get your back scratched with the fan whenever you got an itch. thanks harry long retired.
Hello lads, no Chris if I had any Carlsberg left, it would be out of date, when it was out of date, I used to pour it on my plants, ever seen a pansy hiccup, or a tulip burp. Now I would bet, that cab with the donkey or ■■■ pulling it, is a old one our Harry used to drive■■?. The 80’s when it folded up, I had been on Carlsberg about 5 years then, if I live to be a hundred, I will never forget my time on the red & rust, and the chance it gave me to go on BRS Overland, and travel the middle east, I have been a very lucky man, then to move to delivering Carlsberg until I retired. Now I once again I have came up smelling of roses, having the pleasure of having a chat with some of the well informed chaps of this thread. Sandman Norman
hiya, well hello norm out of date carlsberg is great for putting on the lawn it comes up half cut, and you think frenchy’s cart mounted cab was mine, impossible much too tidy, very little rust, and no pop rivets, and iv’e only driven old donkey’s my hgv group didn’t mention oxen so totally wrong on this occasion, sorry, thanks harry long retired.