whisperingsmith:
Brushing Russian Campaign For Brexit away:-
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So if the Ruskies can see the benefits for us leaving, why cant you ■■
So the question is:- Do Brexiteers support Putin & Russia or do they support Ukraine ■■
In the Right-wing southern states of the USA, it appears they support Putin as the saviour of the White Race - do we have the same here in the UK ■■
whisperingsmith:
So the question is:- Do Brexiteers support Putin & Russia or do they support Ukraine ■■In the Right-wing southern states of the USA, it appears they support Putin as the saviour of the White Race - do we have the same here in the UK ■■
Comes to something where a remote foreign power can allegedly mount a better campaign than you clowns [emoji1782]
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whisperingsmith:
So the question is:- Do Brexiteers support Putin & Russia or do they support Ukraine ■■In the Right-wing southern states of the USA, it appears they support Putin as the saviour of the White Race - do we have the same here in the UK ■■
You’re the racist lad - as you’ve repeatedly shown on here
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Monkey241:
Comes to something where a remote foreign power can allegedly mount a better campaign than you clowns
This could just be fake news, but doesn’t sound good to me:
“Can we get a round of applause for Russia?” asked Nick Fuentes, on stage last week at a white nationalist event. Amid a roar of applause for the Russian president, just days after he invaded Ukraine, many attendees responded by shouting: “Putin! Putin!”
It would be easy to dismiss the America First Political Action Conference (AFPAC) in Orlando, Florida, as a radical fringe. But speeches by two Republican members of Congress – one in person, the other via video – guaranteed national attention and controversy.
The backlash showed how the war in Ukraine has exposed the American far right’s affinity with Putin. That affinity is complicated by the tortured relationship between Russia and former president Donald Trump, whose rise Moscow supported with a covert operation to undermine US democracy."
whisperingsmith:
Monkey241:
Comes to something where a remote foreign power can allegedly mount a better campaign than you clownsThis could just be fake news, but doesn’t sound good to me:
“Can we get a round of applause for Russia?” asked Nick Fuentes, on stage last week at a white nationalist event. Amid a roar of applause for the Russian president, just days after he invaded Ukraine, many attendees responded by shouting: “Putin! Putin!”
It would be easy to dismiss the America First Political Action Conference (AFPAC) in Orlando, Florida, as a radical fringe. But speeches by two Republican members of Congress – one in person, the other via video – guaranteed national attention and controversy.
The backlash showed how the war in Ukraine has exposed the American far right’s affinity with Putin. That affinity is complicated by the tortured relationship between Russia and former president Donald Trump, whose rise Moscow supported with a covert operation to undermine US democracy."
‘Key to white survival’: how Putin has morphed into a far-right savior | CPAC | The Guardian
You do realise that this is the UK?
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Monkey241:
You do realise that this is the UK?
Yes Orang - that’s why I asked whether Brexiteers supported Putin or Ukraine.
whisperingsmith:
Monkey241:
You do realise that this is the UK?Yes Orang - that’s why I asked whether Brexiteers supported Putin or Ukraine.
You do?
Wasn’t sure of the USA relevance.
I think the known Brexiteers on here have been quite explicit on Ukraine. I’ve no doubt you’ll be along shortly to tell us what we actually think, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
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I hope Ukraine wins, and I hate Chickhen Kiev 
whisperingsmith:
Brushing Russian Campaign For Brexit away:-0
IF Putin was indeed in favour of Brexit BECAUSE it would have weakened NATO, WHICH would have avoided all recent tensions and then outright hostilitities…
…It could be argued that a “prompt, un-resisted Brexit implemented in late 2016 instead of…?” would have saved lives at least in Ukraine by this point, not to mention “Pulling up the drawbridge” in late 2016 also would have prevented not only Covid reaching here from China (if you believe in Covid, respecting common beliefs there…) but would also have prevented other nasty diseases like Ebola (unfettered immigration from African contienent) A resurgance of Tuberculosis (unfettered immigration from Eastern Europe, where everyone is BCG jabbed, and therefore doesn’t fear the endemic “White Death” there…) and of course MRSA - which first showed a surge in this country at the same time we took in loadsa immigrants fleeing from the balkans during the 1990’s collapse of former Yugoslavia…
Strange how the world is quick to condemn “aggression of the Right” when it comes to fellow world leaders, but is quite happy to put up with any amount of Tyranny when it comes to leaders of the Liberal Left (We’ve yet to have a far Left leader in This country)
thehairyarsedtrucker:
I hope Ukraine wins, and I hate Chickhen Kiev
You speak for youself.
I’m peeeeeved with Keeeeeeeeve enough as it is already! I could say I wouldn’t give them the steeeeeem off my peeeeeeace, but I’d stand to be mis-understood, most likely 
Just another round of face slapping of the public from the Politically Correct crowd imo.
I don’t recall there being an emergancy look at the way Europe dealt with the collapse of the Soviet Union, and the bloodshed that occured in the power vacuums that followed, such as the breakup of Yugoslavia - which surely wouldn’t have happened the way it did - had there been a more drawn-out process of ending entire sovereign states, which should have happened before any were admitted to the EU - which would effectively end a state’s sovereignty in all but name, anyway - one of the main reasons we went for Brexit in the end, of course…
Winseer:
whisperingsmith:
Brushing Russian Campaign For Brexit away:-0
IF Putin was indeed in favour of Brexit BECAUSE it would have weakened NATO, WHICH would have avoided all recent tensions and then outright hostilitities…
…It could be argued that a “prompt, un-resisted Brexit implemented in late 2016 instead of…?” would have saved lives at least in Ukraine by this point, not to mention “Pulling up the drawbridge” in late 2016 also would have prevented not only Covid reaching here from China (if you believe in Covid, respecting common beliefs there…) but would also have prevented other nasty diseases like Ebola (unfettered immigration from African contienent) A resurgance of Tuberculosis (unfettered immigration from Eastern Europe, where everyone is BCG jabbed, and therefore doesn’t fear the endemic “White Death” there…) and of course MRSA - which first showed a surge in this country at the same time we took in loadsa immigrants fleeing from the balkans during the 1990’s collapse of former Yugoslavia…
Strange how the world is quick to condemn “aggression of the Right” when it comes to fellow world leaders, but is quite happy to put up with any amount of Tyranny when it comes to leaders of the Liberal Left (We’ve yet to have a far Left leader in This country)
Is it me ? I couldnt make head nor tail of that Win
thehairyarsedtrucker:
Winseer:
whisperingsmith:
Brushing Russian Campaign For Brexit away:-0
IF Putin was indeed in favour of Brexit BECAUSE it would have weakened NATO, WHICH would have avoided all recent tensions and then outright hostilitities…
…It could be argued that a “prompt, un-resisted Brexit implemented in late 2016 instead of…?” would have saved lives at least in Ukraine by this point, not to mention “Pulling up the drawbridge” in late 2016 also would have prevented not only Covid reaching here from China (if you believe in Covid, respecting common beliefs there…) but would also have prevented other nasty diseases like Ebola (unfettered immigration from African contienent) A resurgance of Tuberculosis (unfettered immigration from Eastern Europe, where everyone is BCG jabbed, and therefore doesn’t fear the endemic “White Death” there…) and of course MRSA - which first showed a surge in this country at the same time we took in loadsa immigrants fleeing from the balkans during the 1990’s collapse of former Yugoslavia…
Strange how the world is quick to condemn “aggression of the Right” when it comes to fellow world leaders, but is quite happy to put up with any amount of Tyranny when it comes to leaders of the Liberal Left (We’ve yet to have a far Left leader in This country)
Is it me ? I couldnt make head nor tail of that Win
No, its everyone. No one can understand the total waffle he comes out with, mostly it veers off into a tangent or rant about about his circumstances and/or how hard done to he has been about something.
I voted brexit I decided 30 years ago it was nothing more than a gravy train for those that ran it,it is a captive market for Germany and france. Did not know a lot about Ukraine so I looked for their history it was not good reading ww2 bad one and a half million jews were murdered and no one in court for war crimes, they have squabbled with each other for years they have have pushed Russia to this because of leaders greed by wanting to join eu and NATO, both nations bad as one another with Ukraine not bothered about cause of ww3 , sad for the people not the leaders
I do not think Russia should be given any credit for Brexit …the eu did it all by themselves with no help from any body else .
whisperingsmith:
So the question is:- Do Brexiteers support Putin & Russia or do they support Ukraine ■■In the Right-wing southern states of the USA, it appears they support Putin as the saviour of the White Race - do we have the same here in the UK ■■
Given that the Neo Nazis being spoken of, are of the Far Left type appealing to Ukrainian Nationalism - we have that foul brew of Nazism in the full sense of the word: A Far Left clandestine regime of “Death Squads” dressed in Civies/Stolen dead Russian uniforms acting exactly how they please, and being cheered on by Flag-faced “Nationalist Patriots” who in THIS country would simply be called “Skinheads” and/or “Football Hooligans”.
This has got nothing to do with “Skin Colour” or “Religion” any more than WWII did.
The ■■■■ regime killed what? - 6million jews, 20 million Slavs, 3million handicapped/disabled, 2million Roma, and 44million members of the public on all sides involved in WWII.
No one has even bothered to ask what it is Putin wants, rather than speculate on what he’s asking, since we can’t find out any more from the actual horse’s mouth - because it’s all censored these days…
We’ve got to decide instead, writing off everything we see in mainstream media as “propaganda and lies ALL” - or simply switch off the telly until it is all over… A rather more peaceful interpretation of that old song lyric “Let’s just push the button, we’d be better off de-ad Coz I… Hate you. and I… BeRATE you…”
I’d argue, with my Devil’s advocate hat on - that if Putin wants to fanatically purge Nazis from Ukraine, and the price we’re paying for going up against that - is already evident in spiralling energy prices AND the acceptance of Nazis being OK in Europe from now on… Actually, let’s stay out of it, as the opposing opinion offends too many people, clearly…
…Then there’s this pressure again on Blighty to take in these “Refugees” that seem to find it easier to come to England than the countries next door… The biggest step back YET to reversing Brexit: Letting in undocumented foreigners who’ll no doubt have “no papers” if there’s anything remotely dodgy about them…
What happens if any of these Neos use this opportunity to “co-habit with a UK family” to completely take over their lives in their own homes like the Leighton Buzzard scenario? - with the original family shrinking one by one, Cyclist fatality for the Son at Uni, Raped and murdered on the common for the Daughter, no arrests made, no suspects suspected, daughter still in year last year at Grammar school, Mum apparently tops herself in grief, but in fact injected with an air bubble or had medication swapped for fentynol, and Dad disappears outright once all his bank details can be established so that anonymous family that moved in, no papers required - now take over the entire identity of the entire family… We’ve lost four good Brits, and gained four new 5th Columnists at best, 4 new criminal masterminds at worst…
I.Do.Not.Want.The.Nazis.Ever.Taking.Over.Europe.Ever.Again.
I don’t have to be Putin’s mate to have that opinion, but I DO have to oppose the current Anti-Russian rhetoric that has come about because Russia and Putin currently have this particular “Quest” of seeking out and destroying ■■■■ elements like some latter-day Simon Wiesenthal…
The Ukraine leadership - for whatever reasons, maybe under EU or NATO dictat - are bloody well letting it all happen again - but stealthily this time around. Putin? - Is just the “Cassandra of Troy” in all this. Tells the truth, warns everyone - but no one believes him… The political machine he’s up against - has already demonstrated COLOSSAL power in leveraging the entire WORLD’s media against Russia already don’t forget. That’s no mean feat, and I reckon Putin has seriously underestimated the extent of this globalist machine that puts Goebbels to shame… “Empire of Lies” - has it about right, I reckon…
Kremlin spokesman Dimitry Peskov said Russia would withdraw forces if Ukraine cease military action, change its constitution to enshrine neutrality, acknowledged Crimea as Russian territory, and recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states.
“We have also spoken about how they should recognise that Crimea is Russian territory and that they need to recognise that Donetsk and Lugansk are independent states. And that’s it. It will stop in a moment,” said Pesko
As published by poundsterlinglive.com this week.
OwenMoney:
Kremlin spokesman Dimitry Peskov said Russia would withdraw forces if Ukraine cease military action, change its constitution to enshrine neutrality, acknowledged Crimea as Russian territory, and recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states.“We have also spoken about how they should recognise that Crimea is Russian territory and that they need to recognise that Donetsk and Lugansk are independent states. And that’s it. It will stop in a moment,” said Pesko
As published by poundsterlinglive.com this week.
And yet Winseer says we have no idea…despite this being reported numerous times
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Monkey241:
OwenMoney:
Kremlin spokesman Dimitry Peskov said Russia would withdraw forces if Ukraine cease military action, change its constitution to enshrine neutrality, acknowledged Crimea as Russian territory, and recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states.“We have also spoken about how they should recognise that Crimea is Russian territory and that they need to recognise that Donetsk and Lugansk are independent states. And that’s it. It will stop in a moment,” said Pesko
As published by poundsterlinglive.com this week.
And yet Winseer says we have no idea…despite this being reported numerous times
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No idea about what■■?
OwenMoney:
Kremlin spokesman Dimitry Peskov said Russia would withdraw forces if Ukraine cease military action, change its constitution to enshrine neutrality, acknowledged Crimea as Russian territory, and recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states.“We have also spoken about how they should recognise that Crimea is Russian territory and that they need to recognise that Donetsk and Lugansk are independent states. And that’s it. It will stop in a moment,” said Pesko
As published by poundsterlinglive.com this week.
Was this the same Kremlin spokesperson who said " our troops are on exercise and have no intention of invading Ukraine"