toonsy:
Well if anyone does decide to go and work for him remember the time when he threw his workforce on the scrapheap and told them all to go get jobs in tesco etc…
Lovely chap.
Except he didn’t do that. He said he would understand if staff jumped ship and left a company where there was NO work and went to work at Tesco instead (who were at the time desperate for workers) . He also said that when business was allowed to resume they’d be at the front of the queue if they wanted to come back. I don’t think any Wetherspoons employees lost their jobs (unlike a huge number of others working in the hospitality industry).
He may well be an odious bloke and some of his business practices appear well dodgy, but on this point I think you’ve been misled by certain sectors of the press.
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No he did something far, far worse. He refused to pay his workers. Said they would have to wait until the government with our money paid them and bailed out him and his poxy business. Imagine working for that peice of ordure and then him refusing to pay you.
toonsy:
Well if anyone does decide to go and work for him remember the time when he threw his workforce on the scrapheap
So no different than Tesco did with their own drivers…
Oh wait Wetherspoons didn’t throw their workers on the scrapheap like Tesco did with their drivers, Wetherspoons told them they were free to go work for Tesco whilst they were furloughed to earn some more money to live on in addition to what they were already getting on furlough, something which a lot of employers wouldn’t let their employees do.
That doesn’t make sense. Were you allowed to work for another company while you were furloughed at another? I thought the idea was the government paid your wages to avoid people mixing together - not so you could go work somewhere else and doubles yo’ money.
Yep it was all above board,some of our guys that got furloughed on 90% went working on agency at Asda,as long as you told company they were fine about it,I also found out though a good source that’s exactly what Tim Martin told his workforce,they’d get the 80% and would be allowed to return when pubs reopened,The media put there own spin on it though…
toonsy:
Well if anyone does decide to go and work for him remember the time when he threw his workforce on the scrapheap and told them all to go get jobs in tesco etc…
Lovely chap.
Not actually true…
My youngest was working for Wetherspoons at the time and what was actually said was …
Tescos are busy, we are closed, you can go and work for Tescos as well as claiming furlough from Wetherspooons. We dont mind and your job willl still be there when we reopen…
That was a shortened down version of the letter he received.
Of course the newspapers got hold of the story and twisted it to their agenda…
Corrrections and apologies were later given in the media to Tim Martin
He actually said “You arn’t getting paid” for the work they had done that month. Said they could sing for it until the government paid his wage bill. No-one ever apologised to him that I heard. He was lucky he wasn’t lynched.
We’re seeing unprecedented pay rises in road transport following fifteen years of wage stagnation and still some poor wooden-headed saps are so brainwashed that they continue to bang the eu drum at every opportunity. There has never been a clearer example of “turkeys voting for Christmas”. I get the idea that JeffA does not drive a truck and is simply here to troll for his paymaster.
JeffA:
Looks like it’s finally dawning on the pro-Brexit bosses they might have done a boo-boo. Tim Martin in the papers saying
"The pro-Brexit boss of pub chain JD Wetherspoon has urged the government to increase migration from the EU to deal with a shortage of workers in the hospitality sector. Tim Martin, who campaigned for a hard Brexit, including leaving the single market and the end of freedom of movement which came with it, urged Boris Johnson to consider a new, “reasonably liberal” visa scheme"
JeffA:
Looks like it’s finally dawning on the pro-Brexit bosses they might have done a boo-boo. Tim Martin in the papers saying
"The pro-Brexit boss of pub chain JD Wetherspoon has urged the government to increase migration from the EU to deal with a shortage of workers in the hospitality sector. Tim Martin, who campaigned for a hard Brexit, including leaving the single market and the end of freedom of movement which came with it, urged Boris Johnson to consider a new, “reasonably liberal” visa scheme"
Tim Martin - what a charming man.
Which part of ‘visa scheme’ confused you?
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They are all “visa schemes” mate - do you think billionaire Tim Martin likes paying arsewits good money? Just for being good tories?
JeffA:
Looks like it’s finally dawning on the pro-Brexit bosses they might have done a boo-boo. Tim Martin in the papers saying
"The pro-Brexit boss of pub chain JD Wetherspoon has urged the government to increase migration from the EU to deal with a shortage of workers in the hospitality sector. Tim Martin, who campaigned for a hard Brexit, including leaving the single market and the end of freedom of movement which came with it, urged Boris Johnson to consider a new, “reasonably liberal” visa scheme"
Tim Martin - what a charming man.
Which part of ‘visa scheme’ confused you?
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They are all “visa schemes” mate - do you think billionaire Tim Martin likes paying arsewits good money? Just for being good tories?
They are all visa schemes?
Apart from freedom of movement you mean?
You appear to have pursued a logical fallacy: for a variety of reasons I opposed FoM…but have never had an issue with controlled immigration.
For Wetherspoon’s to now argue for that is not a contradiction.
JeffA:
I remember him saying he would “get wine from Australia instead of the EU” - turns out he cant even get a lorry full of coors beer from ten miles away.
Does he run his own lorries collecting from the brewery or is it the brewery failing to deliver to a customer? I think you’ll find it’s the latter.
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The Wetherspoons business is based on buying cheap, so they tend to take short dated stock that supermarkets reject. We are now seeing supermarkets keeping these loads so Wetherspoons have seen their supply dry up.
JeffA:
I remember him saying he would “get wine from Australia instead of the EU” - turns out he cant even get a lorry full of coors beer from ten miles away.
Does he run his own lorries collecting from the brewery or is it the brewery failing to deliver to a customer? I think you’ll find it’s the latter.
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The Wetherspoons business is based on buying cheap, so they tend to take short dated stock that supermarkets reject. We are now seeing supermarkets keeping these loads so Wetherspoons have seen their supply dry up.
Aaaaaaand another Wetherspoons myth lolol. Keep them coming!
They buy cheap because they have nearly 1000 pubs and having the buying power!! Dear oh dear!
Since the UK has now left the EU, couldn’t Boris Johnson fund his social care plan with the £350m a week – £18.2bn a year – that he said in 2016 would be available for the NHS as a result of Brexit?
The Beast of Bolsover & Maggies Henchman:- (Helsetine) are unlikely bedfellows
It is so sad that ■■■■■■■■ has been as quick to destroy Britain as the Taliban have Afghanistan.
Putin and his compatriots in The Sun, Mail, Express, Telegraph and Tory party will be dancing in the streets outside their Cayman Island Banks.
■■■■■■■■ came about purely to stop the EU’s attempt to stop Tax evasion, but sadly working-class Brits swallowed it Hook Line & Sinker.
I don’t blame them as they were bombarded by Billionaire press owners.
But Brexshiteers cannot claim to be Patriots whilst the Cheerleaders of Brexit profit from the destruction of the Union and the isolation of Engerland, not only Worldwide but also from the other countries of the Once United Kingdom
whisperingsmith:
It is so sad that ■■■■■■■■ has been as quick to destroy Britain as the Taliban have Afghanistan.
Yup, it’s been destroyed, it’s on the ropes like a battered prize fighter.
Well, that’s if you so so so desperately want to believe that. Myself, I’ll believe my recent 20% payrise, I’ll believe the stories here about other drivers massive pay rises. I’ll believe employers saying that they’ve never been so busy and are paying real actual living wages to recruit staff finally. I’ll believe government figures (for once) telling me that unemployment is falling whilst GDP is climbing. Yeah, ■■■■ you Brexit.
Still waiting Here in Cornwall
Cornwall’s equivalent of Stobarts still paying £9.50 an hour.
The best thing about Brexit is that it has shown up the ■■■■ wages, terms & conditions that drivers, hospitality workers, veg/fruit pickers, etc… have had to put up with.
If you think Brexit was for the benefit of the British rather than those hiding their money in Tax Havens, I don’t think I’ll live long enough for us to agree unless its a discussion about Real Ale or the best truck to drive 1970s -1990s
whisperingsmith:
I don’t think I’ll live long enough for us to agree unless its a discussion about Real Ale or the best truck to drive 1970s -1990s
I surrender!
I’ll grant that you are in a peculiar position down there in Kernow. Traditionally you’ve been blessed with Gods own country coupled to ■■■■ poor wages. I don’t honestly see that EU membership would change that (again, you’re the man on the ground so would know better), but surely there’ll be a filter down effect of these high wages increases? Although like a bank holiday drive down the A30 it may take time.
