Winseer:
anon84679660:
Brexit has changed direction so many times, I don’t even know where we are now. We were going to get a great EU deal, then Boris Johnson said we’d prosper mightily without one. The US trade deal was the brexit goal, and now the government are saying we don’t need a US deal either, after Joe Biden won the presidency. It’s still unclear exactly what we are going to get with brexit.
youtube.com/watch?v=2T0Gd_YMeh8
It’ll be impossible to get a good deal without Trump, and likely impossible to get no deal without Cummings…
If Brexit ends up being cancelled, then Farage will likely run in 2024 on a “Give us our lives back” ticket where we get off the fence, and bloody well make a decision wether we want to be ruled by Brussels or London once and for all. I understand the Remainer “Better the devil you know” argument, but not this “We cannot move forward, we’ve got to go back” even when 99% done…
What’s waiting for us if we all submitted to Remainer rule, let them all win the day, let only Liberal Left Elitists win elections…?
…How do they manage to “Bring us all together”?
“Everlasting Austerity” simply won’t work… That’s what the average Brexiteer was running away from to START with.
Winseer , give it a rest… you’ve only been released a few days and you’re giving it large already
You’re like a crim that’s been released on parole and gone straight out on the thieve
the other side of the road of a police station !! 
Got to love that Winseer is increasingly like a confused old man who seemingly doesn’t know his arse from his elbow. Good grief man you’re starting to make Carryfast look like the voice of reason
discoman:
I think, I have to trust Sky New Australia, when I am sitting on my couch and minister for immigration states, we are looking at free trade and free movement with the UK…
I think I would rather trust our news then biased uk news, living in Australia, and now a citizen.
DafT here in Australia are welcoming a trade agreement and our PM Scott Morrison is not moving heaven and earth to get a trade deal with the EU indeed Australia seem are not keen on the EU.
we are looking at the canzuk agreement which means the UK get an invite into the TPP agreement here in Oceania…
Might well be 7th largest, but that’s under EU rules not under the UK and our rules. More to trade than just cheap EU tat from EU countries. … plenty of fresh fruits, meats , sugar, allot, iron , minerals etc … that some you only find here like mines in northern QLD wiepa etc.
It’s, a fact that the UK and Australia have more in common then either do with the EU, I’m anti EU … and our trade minister and immigration minister has not ruled out free movement of British passport holders to come and live and work freely in Australia, personally I hope FM won’t happen …
dfat.gov.au/trade/agreement … ons/aukfta
Why do you, an Australian citizen have such a strong opinion about the EU and The UKs place in it? Someone with very little knowledge of the EU if
‘ More to trade than just cheap EU tat from EU countries. … plenty of fresh fruits, meats , sugar, allot, iron , minerals etc’
is anything to go by.
whisperingsmith:
> Winseer:
> It is time we stopped listening to those supposedly still “negotiating”, and started paying attention to those people actually putting the final pieces of Brexit Britain in place, which now would seem to “likely leave our trade relation with America - as it is”. We don’t actually need a “New” Deal with the USA after all, especially one with Biden’s uncognetive mits all over it…
AIUI Our current Deal with the USA is as a member of the EU - that ends on Dec 31st leaving us with NO DEAL with the USA & most of the rest of the World.
We only have days to get any new Deals through Parliament as they all go off on their Xmas Hols for a month or so. Their Spring Holiday will then come round in the blink of an eye.
I believe we so far have done deals with Japan, Ukraine and Ivory Coast.
From The Tory Press: Brexit news: UK trade department faces race to get £80bn of agreements approved | Politics | News | Express.co.uk
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Yep. Liz Truss is scrabbling to get “continuity deals” in place. The Gov is struggling to ensure existing deals are rolled over. And when any are signed it will be spun as a negotiating triumph.
No more talk of vastly better, easily negotiated deals as the world queues up to offer us concessions. Just press releases full of self praise if we avoid shooting ourselves in the foot.
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Cash already spent on infrastructure, extra gov bureaucrats, civilian administrators, IT systems, (NONE of which are yet sufficient or on time) with more expense to come.
We are running like mad, and throwing money away, to try to stand still. Incompetence piled on top of insanity.
Time to revoke article 50 and let common sense prevail.
OwenMoney:
Time to revoke article 50 and let common sense prevail.
And you think things can just go back to how they were before like nothing happened?
You think the rest of the world will ever respect us again?
You think we wont be a laughing stock for decades, if not forever?
The-Snowman:
OwenMoney:
Time to revoke article 50 and let common sense prevail.
And you think things can just go back to how they were before like nothing happened?
You think the rest of the world will ever respect us again?
You think we wont be a laughing stock for decades, if not forever?
All true and fair comments BUT it would be better than the Bat ■■■■ F up that is going to arrive 01 01 2021
The-Snowman:
You think the rest of the world will ever respect us again?
You think we wont be a laughing stock for decades, if not forever?
Hate to break it to you chap but we already are
If Brexit did get cancelled, then Remainers wouldn’t be able to blame the kung flu for all our ills, Brexit for the damage to our economy already done, or the at-large public for super-spreading both <2% attrition rate Covid whist maintaining the 3.5k people that die on our roads ever year, including this one, it seems.
There was 1 spun-off car in a field down the M40 today, and another 2 cars put through field fences down the A34 as well.
Traffic - cannot ALL be on “Essential Journeys” here, suggesting rather that the Great British Public have simply had enough of all the bull, and just want to get their lives back.
The Docks have been chaos today, as the EU pumps this island full of last-minute flogged off produce from the mainland continent, I suspect.
What’s all this about the rest of the world needing a new trade deal with the UK post-Brexit?
It’ll be “Business as usual” come 1st January in that regard. The EU have hardly told the rest of the world to fold any and all the UK’s WTO arrangements!
Winseer:
If Brexit did get cancelled, then Remainers wouldn’t be able to blame the kung flu for all our ills, Brexit for the damage to our economy already done, or the at-large public for super-spreading both <2% attrition rate Covid whist maintaining the 3.5k people that die on our roads ever year, including this one, it seems.
There was 1 spun-off car in a field down the M40 today, and another 2 cars put through field fences down the A34 as well.
Traffic - cannot ALL be on “Essential Journeys” here, suggesting rather that the Great British Public have simply had enough of all the bull, and just want to get their lives back.
The Docks have been chaos today, as the EU pumps this island full of last-minute flogged off produce from the mainland continent, I suspect.
What’s all this about the rest of the world needing a new trade deal with the UK post-Brexit?
It’ll be “Business as usual” come 1st January in that regard. The EU have hardly told the rest of the world to fold any and all the UK’s WTO arrangements!
You’re turning into comedy gold chap claiming remainers are ones for pushing the blame around when you’ve spent an inordinate amount of time on this very thread and even this very post doing exactly that. This remainer blames those who deserve blame- politicians who lied and gullible voters who believed them. Not sure what links Covid to it all but then I suppose I should take into account your scattergun approach to ‘debating’. I.e just keep shooting total s**t all over the place and hoping that maybe some will stick. As you’ve illustrated perfectly in that utterly ridiculous post. 
Have a lovely evening Winny old girl. X
I’ve been watching this thread over the past couple of months, and noticed that not much got said at all during my “absence”.
Well you have most certainly addressed that since your return. 
Someone asked about what trade deals had been done so far . Here is a link to the BBC Reality check site showing the non enormous deals done so far.
bbc.com/news/uk-47213842
Big question is then - "Do we actually need anything above and beyond this?
The UK Export Market? - Not as important as it used to be, Britain needing to feed itself first and foremost, supply itself with utilities, and become generally less dependent upon no longer “cheap” imports for that same device or product…
If Seville Oranges become double the price of Andean or Florida oranges - rather than import the same old same old, and just charge throught the nose for it on shop shelves, why can’t we just remove the now-overpriced seville variety, and hand over more shelf space for the incoming Andean variety for instance?
I mention “Andean” - because that’s what I’m seeing at the Citrus Terminals these days… 20 pallets of Non-EU incoming produce, 4 pallets of EU stuff. One Spanish, two Turkish, one French. The last couple of weeks have seen a surge of vehicles direct from within the EU dumping their stuff on us at the last minute, “gotta shift that harvest” kind of play, perfectly understandable there.
Stuff from Turkey, interestingly - doesn’t seem to have slowed down much this entire summer, which makes me wonder if Turkey might be happy to continue trading with the UK, with a “bugger what the EU thinks, they didn’t let us become full members” kind of attitude…?
Thus, I’d have to conclude that both the EU and UK are a lot more ready for “No Deal” on January 1st than we’ve been led to believe. 
It seems Carrie Symond’s is in charge of British politics now.
One unelected after departed another unelected is telling the PM how to run the country.
After the surprise resignation of Dominic ■■■■■■■■■ Boris Johnson has upped the political intrigue by evicting the brexit mastermind from Number 10 Downing Street altogether after ■■■■■■■■ insulted the Prime Minister’s fiancee, Carrie Symonds.I
m.youtube.com/watch?v=xB-O3Hd1aN8
Winseer:
The last couple of weeks have seen a surge of vehicles direct from within the EU dumping their stuff on us at the last minute, “gotta shift that harvest” kind of play,
Those bloody foreigns coming over here and dumping their fruits on us. Who the hell do they think they are FFS? They should be prosecuted for littering
switchlogic:
Winseer:
The last couple of weeks have seen a surge of vehicles direct from within the EU dumping their stuff on us at the last minute, “gotta shift that harvest” kind of play,
Those bloody foreigns coming over here and dumping their fruits on us. Who the hell do they think they are FFS? They should be prosecuted for littering
If they dump the produce on the airports it’ll stop those Aussies landing their 747s loaded with fresh tomatoes.
