Came across this on a Bikers page I follow. Bit of a heated debate on the subject!
I’m guessing the lights where red the van was stationary at the lights and the trainee saw his chance to get out. If he had lights at his junction maybe he took his time getting out on the green but his view up the road must have been impaired by the van. The van made no movement so I’m guessing the lights from there only just started to turn green again and the bike carried on he was hardly hanging about was he. The rider didnt get knocked off and I’m sure the pupil learned to check a little more thourughly next time maybe they both learnt to pay a little more attention.
Biker needs a good slap !!!
Agreed, now was the biker pulling a wheelie.
glesgatrucker:
Biker needs a good slap !!!
+1
I’d guess by showing that footage though he thinks he right. He thinks a light just gone green means you can just go before anyone else, you don’t have to make sure the junction is clear and you’ll be fine.
Biker is a fud
At 4 seconds you can see where he hit the gas as the lights went to amber, so really he should have held back and not gunned it until the lights went to green.
You can be most the careful driver in the world, i assume the HGV trainee did all the relevant checks, regardless if he was slow on pulling out or not, nobody expects a biker to come hairing down the middle of the road at them and probably 10 - 20mph over the limit.
Poor driving/riding all round.
Motorcyclist assumes the green light gives him immortality,and truck driver fails to stop when it becomes obvious his vehicle will collide with the motorcycle.
commonrail:
Poor driving/riding all round.
Motorcyclist assumes the green light gives him immortality,and truck driver fails to stop when it becomes obvious his vehicle will collide with the motorcycle.
As a biker, in the truck drivers defence, he is a leaner - possibly just climbed out of a Nissan Micra at the training site.
Some leeway for learners is required, whether in a car, on a motorbike, in a bus or a truck, the L plates are there for a reason.
Green does mean go - but a) when safe to do so - you can’t run a pedestrian over for example because you have a green light, and b) if you’re one of the most vulnerable road users, you look after number 1
when I say “collide with” I mean after the motorcycle has stopped.I agree the learner must be given leeway,but the instructor/examiner…or even the driver should have realised The o/s rear wheels would have wiped the bike out,had he not moved a bit sharpish.
It’s been posted on a motorbike group I’m part of on facebook, by the rider or his mate, 90% of the comments say the riders is a nob
One thing’s for certain…if he don’t improve, he’s gonna end up dead.
Yep ! Rider’s a knob.
Shouldn’t have overtaken the van in the first place. He didn’t pull a wheelie the forks just rose up as he twisted the throttle.
I would have Toodled up to the van at walking pace & been ready for him to pull away, then I wouldn’t have been in that position.
Billy Biker should have stopped & just let the lorry finish his turn without all the waving.
Ive been riding bikes for over 30 years an driving artics awhile now an i can see it from both sides but to me the truck does not even make any sign of stopping at the give way line !! think once think twice think bike !!!
blindspot:
Ive been riding bikes for over 30 years an driving artics awhile now an i can see it from both sides but to me the truck does not even make any sign of stopping at the give way line !! think once think twice think bike !!!
It’s traffic lights not a give way 
My main problem is, what if there was a pedestrian crossing infront of the van?
The truck should not have continued, but as I said previously, it’s a Learner and some leeway must be given to Learners of all vehicles.
The bike did have a green light, but the van hadn’t moved, I’d want to know why, you can’t see infront of the van so you’d have to slow down.
If you look really carefully, the lights go to Amber just as the bike gets level with the car & you can just see the lorry moving out (if you look down the left side of the van) he then Blips the throttle, goes past the car & the van, but the lorry had already started his turn (he probably crossed the line just as it change to Amber)
As I concluded earlier (your honour) The Bike shouldn’t have overtaken the van- Guilty as Charged !
As Wayne says “what if a pedestrian was crossing in front of the van” 
Don’t be an Amber Gambler !
sarcasm was the biker carrying blood or organs to a hospital?? what was the emergency? did he really need to zoom off when he can see its a learner… this would have been classed as a hazard in your hazard awareness section of your test and he should have been prepared for it
An amber light means either stop or prepare to go, the learner in the truck may have been a little slow in getting going and probably crossed the line just as the lights changed.
The way he was waving his arms around suggests he believes he is right, which he clearly is not, riding like that in a built up area will only end in tragedy.
commonrail:
One thing’s for certain…if he don’t improve, he’s gonna end up dead.
I don’t mind that as long as he doesn’t take anyone else with him.