Carryfast:
Winseer:
I must admit I’ve had times where I thought Bojo was a Remainer in Brexiteer’s clothing - BUT if he became PM and then acted for rather than against the EU, - he wouldn’t even last as long as this “Lady Jane Grey” of politics, like has already been suggested he’d be, facing a vote of No Confidence which Rudd, et all - will vote with Labour on - before Boris even gets his feet under the proverbial desk of Number 10…
Why would Remainer Rudd and all the rest of the cross party Remain rabble want to throw BoJo under the bus.When he’s actually just a Remain Trojan Horse who’s on ‘their’ side and who’s going to finish the job that May started of reversing Brexit. 
It should be clear by now that replacing one Remain PM with another,on a continuous relay type basis,while pretending Brexit,but at the same time doing everything possible to sabotage it,is the standard MO here ever since Cameron’s rigged referendum stunt went wrong for him and the Remain side in general.
The fact is without a resurgence in a Batten led UKIP the country is toast.Which probably explains why he’s back and has rightly decided to stand for the UKIP leadership again.
While the Leave side goes on following the same old suspects and their mainstream media propaganda machine,who are running the same old,false flag agenda,of sabotaging Brexit,while pretending the opposite,and then expecting a different outcome.
The fact is an ideologically Federalist Party allied to a Soviet Socialist one,in wanting to create a Soviet/US type hybrid in Europe,will do anything but take us out of their plans.Don’t be surprised if infiltration of their opposition and deliberate sabotage and delay turns out to be some of their main tactics in that.BoJo’s fake anti EU rhetoric and the equally fake Remain opposition to him being part of that.
Boris - has no chance of reversing Brexit that he has not had chance to do already.
Boris’ actions, whilst ambitious, do not convince me he’s a trojan horse character at ALL. That was MAY and now we’re being pushed to accept Remainer Hunt as our PM that the conservatives would LIKE us to choose - because that way Labour will NOT be attempting to bring the government down before June 2022.
PARLIAMENT as a whole - are overwealmingly for Remain. They are the EU’s bought-and-paid-for CREATURES then.
Boris - can be a part of the process “Breaking Parliament” as described by Farage OR be a part of the ongoing Problem - trying to drag one’s feet about Brexit.
Boris - has got one shot at this, and everything is being done to ensure he misses this vital shot… THAT is NOT the way I’d expect Parliament to behave towards a “Closet Remainer”. Indeed, if Boris were that - then he’d be encouraged by Labour and Remainers alike - to “carry on, and trash your party” - wouldn’t he?
What has Hunt promised though? Pretty much nothing but open-ended stuff that means pretty much nothing at all. He’s not so much ‘Michael’ Hunt, but rather just Theresa May with a ■■■■. 
…We already knew that Cameron was a ■■■■, but I’d have to admit being fooled by May’s “Born Again Brexiteer” promises… 
Above everything else though - Boris - has made some factual statements, regardless of all the personalities involved:
“It’s Do or Die”
“Kick the Can one more time - and we kick the bucket”.
Parliament is going to do it’s damndest to make sure an October 31st Brexit does NOT HAPPEN - just to get rid of Boris.
If Boris were really meaning to “scrap Brexit” - then he wouldn’t have given way to Gove’s backstab last time, and yet overcome Gove this time.
Parliament - won’t ever approve any re-hashed version of May’s deal.
A completely new deal is needed to be drawn up, and put to Parliament before 31st October.
This deal would be BORIS’ deal, and if Parliament REJECT it because it’s Boris’ deal - then the options for the “meaningful vote” could be as follows:
(1) Pass Boris’ deal, which is we leave on 31st October, all payments to the EU cease. The backstop is chucked, the £39billion - doesn’t get paid. The EU are left to their leisure to build a wall between NI and Eire, and shut down Britain’s trade access to the single market, and build up any customs posts between Britain and the Mainland continent on their side of the channel. The UK will no longer recognize ANY EU legal edicts from the EU courts as of 23:00hrs 31st October 2019. Civil Servants have been ordered to shut those payments down, or resign their posts if refusing to do so.
(2) Reject Boris’ Deal but ONLY if Parliament by doing thus auto-approves a total rejection of Brexit by revoking Article 50 right NOW and admitting that Brexit wasn’t ever going to happen with this parliamentary make-up. Boris could then call an immediate general election, where Labour and Conservatives would both lose around 100 seats apiece, whilst Libdems only gain about 40… SNP stay as they are, which leaves Brexit Party with about 160 seats - more than enough to put them into coalition with Boris’ Conservatives, now on around 220 seats. If Boris cannot or will not put together this coalition - he’s GONE as PM. He’ll DO that coalition with Farage then! Farage, will exact a high price, perhaps being made Chancellor - for entering into this coalition.
(3) ABSTAIN - if you approve of a “Crashing-Out No Deal Brexit” on October 31st, details to be left to whenever Boris wants to make them up.
SO lefties and Remainers - how would you wish YOUR MP to vote on such a “meaningful vote”?
“Boris’ Deal” - need not involve the EU at all, as the EU have already said “Negotiations are CLOSED”. There’s nothing to go over there to talk TO them about - AT ALL then. Boris’ Deal is all about what can get past Parliament - NOTHING ELSE. There are the ERG who want the Backstop dropped, and the £39billion taken off the table. There’s Labour who want the Backstop dropped without endangering the Good Friday Agreement, and don’t want the £39billion paid - providing that money doesn’t get spent on tax cuts. There’s the Libdems - who don’t want Brexit, and won’t have any reason for existing once Brexit is completed. I would guess that around HALF of Labour MPs would vote Boris’ deal through, and all but about 20 of the Conservatives. That’s easily a winning margin of about 70 votes in this meaningful vote - including the allowance that ALL the SNP and Libdem MPs vote AGAINST it.
If Boris’ deal passes, the next general election gets put back to June 2022, and those Remainers in Brexit-voting constituencies, can rest easy for a while.
I think a lot of Remainers in Labour - will vote FOR Boris’ deal - simply to stay afloat for another three years! “The Self-Presevation Society” - if nothing else.
Now check this out - as to which MPs are the most vulnerable… 
Boris the Bold - need not worry about being “brought down” and causing the general election that would set FIRE to the current Parliamenatary complement. If Boris wins the PMship - they’ll all go quiet, other than threatening “not to vote for a new deal by October 31st” - which just means they’ll be out-voted on the day. Boris doesn’t need to convince 650MPs to support his deal - he just needs about 380-400 or so to get it comfortably over the line.
