Chosen as well, fully freighted with 25tonnes of steel. UK news now saying the same re the murdered driver being in passenger seat…
dieseldog999:
youtube is bursting now trying to delete all the truthfull comments but they are going back up as quick as theyre trying to remove them…funny how the truth hurts some people.
Which reminded me of this
washingtontimes.com/news/201 … ng-mark-z/
German Chancellor Angela Merkel was overheard on a hot mic confronting Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg over anti-immigrant posts, amid complaints from her government that the social network isn’t doing enough to curtail racist comments.
The two were overheard exchanging words on a live transmission broadcast on the United Nations website, as participants took their seats at a U.N. development summit in New York on Saturday, Bloomberg reported.
After Ms. Merkel asked Mr. Zuckerberg about offensive posts on the refugee crisis, the Facebook CEO said “we need to do some work” on the issue.
dieseldog999:
seems a funny place to stop though if you were hell bent on causing mayhem and destruction… the roads clear well in front of him?
Exactly what i was thinking, only the driver (terrorist) will know, hes made it through the whole market and then stops at the road. Most likely knowing he’ll only get so far before having to leg it anyway and was hoping to make his escape by just blending in somewhere…
Is there any chance that as he’s ploughed through things, there’s been some sort of mechanical damage to the truck that brought it to a halt earlier than the nutter intended.
albion:
Is there any chance that as he’s ploughed through things, there’s been some sort of mechanical damage to the truck that brought it to a halt earlier than the nutter intended.
Could well be couldnt it. Air line ripped off maybe or some sort of similar damage…
Now confirmed 12 as being killed.
Poor old Polish lad in the passenger seat was probably resisting the attempt to have his truck taken over from him - and was killed for it. 
Just heard it on radio, Polish truck drivers are hanging black bands on their mirror to show support for the family. They are going to sound thier horns at 12 today.
German biggest TV stations reported straight after the attack that it was Polish driver driving the lorry. Of course they later have corrected themselves but false information was spread.
Also heard that Polish news stated that it was Polish lorry who killed 12 people. Sure we need to blame lorry for it…
Take notice how media are trying to minimise information about the actual driver. wonder why?
This are special techniques used by professionals, they know what they doing and why.
Winseer:
Now confirmed 12 as being killed.Poor old Polish lad in the passenger seat was probably resisting the attempt to have his truck taken over from him - and was killed for it.
Yep and was probably on way home for Christmas [emoji20]
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Carryfast:
dieseldog999:
:shock:The Poles don’t like the Russians.The Russians don’t like the Islamists or the Poles but they seem to be mates with the Iranians and the Turks.But the Turks don’t know if they want to be mates with the Russians or not.We’re mates with the Saudis who are also mates with the Islamists,but the Islamists don’t like anyone although the Saudis pretend to like us but not the Russians.While we just go along with whatever the Saudis want including populating Europe with their mates the Islamists.
As for Bulgaria it’s anyone’s guess who’s side they are on although they seem to be happy to be ruled by Merkel but also want the borders closed with Turkey. Because,like the Serbs,they don’t like the Islamists who Turkey is mates with.While also being happy to be mates with Turkey in WW1 against Serbia who didn’t like the Islamists or the Germans.While Merkel wants them open because she is mates with everyone.
Very sad news, RIP to the fallen, speedy recovery to the wounded. Its gonna get even worst with time, I dont see it getting any better. Lets hope there will be no refugee wave from Yemen…
CF stop talking BS about BG and SR in WW1, you apparently know nothing of history, in simple English for you: Bulgaria sited with Germany in both world wars, because Germany backed us from getting all the lands inhabited by Bulgarians in the Balkans, lands that were taken by Greece, Romania and Serbia after the fall of the Ottoman empire. Millions of Bulgarians were left over in other countries and oppressed to change their identity, there was genocide against Bulgarians in both Greece and Serbia. History its not black and white, just because Serbia is Christian country doesnt mean we have to be friends, we fought throughout history the same way Christian countries like France and England fought.
Simply British,American and Russian empire were against Bulgarian unification, Brits and Americans even split Bulgaria on the Berlin congress which led to 1885 war. We align with Germany, which happen to have Turkey as ally.
If you really want to understand why Bulgaria sited with Germany, give yourself 10 min and read some of this.
genocide-in-macedonia.blogspot.c … -asia.html
Now if you are done can we get back to topic.
AndrewG:
dieseldog999:
seems a funny place to stop though if you were hell bent on causing mayhem and destruction… the roads clear well in front of him?Exactly what i was thinking, only the driver (terrorist) will know, hes made it through the whole market and then stops at the road. Most likely knowing he’ll only get so far before having to leg it anyway and was hoping to make his escape by just blending in somewhere…
i reckon he was as proficcient in driving a truck as the twin tower pilots were at flying,and as he exited the carnage it looks like the rear trailer wheels caught on the edge of the sheds and mabey he stalled it and couldnt find a gear,so just hopped out and legged it…
theres now about 5 options here to end this with how he must have been a fulltime terrorist,as if he was agency they would have nabbed him at the scania door as he wouldnt have limped away quick enough…he might well have known how to drive ok,but mabey had a trial practice n the same looking truck with a different gearbox or whatever…nobody mentioned he got shot etc,and the truck looks ok apart from the panned in screen…if you had ploughed through all the stalls,then you wouldnt stop across the middle of the road looking for somewhere to hide…heavy pedal down to the lights,and leg it from there would be more sensible.
do we know who,or what the driver is yet?? 
Allegedly a 23 year old pakistani refugee
itl be like pulling teeth getting the media to be spilling the beans about him then…looks like germany is getting what misses merkel wants…i wondering when the reprisals will start.
and apparantly we still dont have our fair share of them over here yet…
vanderbart:
Take notice how media are trying to minimise information about the actual driver. wonder why?
Maybe they don’t want to propagate more mass murders by making the driver an anti hero
Whirlwind:
vanderbart:
Take notice how media are trying to minimise information about the actual driver. wonder why?Maybe they don’t want to propagate more mass murders by making the driver an anti hero
maybe it’s a good idea not to say anything officially until they actually know something.
This is a rough transcript from Sky
At 3.44pm someone tried to turn the Scania R450 lorry on. Nothing happened for the next hour.
At 4.52pm there was another attempt to start it.
The engine turned over until 5.37pm,without moving. This was not an attempt to keep the cabin warm, rather someone trying to learn.
Several more attempts were made to move
It began to move at 7.34pm.
At8.15pm the lorry drove into the crowd.
Source… Sky
It’s reported that the authorities are reading the results they are getting ( presumably from the tacho and/or truck computer) indicate someone that was unfamiliar with the vehicle.
The driver who drove in to the market is not caught yet and on the run with a gun.
The man arrested in the park is a Pakistani asylum seeker and has nothing to do with the atrocity .
Radio two have said above.
Seems like the Politzi are now saying they have the wrong man under arrest 
Dolph:
Carryfast:
dieseldog999:
:shock:The Poles don’t like the Russians.The Russians don’t like the Islamists or the Poles but they seem to be mates with the Iranians and the Turks.But the Turks don’t know if they want to be mates with the Russians or not.We’re mates with the Saudis who are also mates with the Islamists,but the Islamists don’t like anyone although the Saudis pretend to like us but not the Russians.While we just go along with whatever the Saudis want including populating Europe with their mates the Islamists.
As for Bulgaria it’s anyone’s guess who’s side they are on although they seem to be happy to be ruled by Merkel but also want the borders closed with Turkey. Because,like the Serbs,they don’t like the Islamists who Turkey is mates with.While also being happy to be mates with Turkey in WW1 against Serbia who didn’t like the Islamists or the Germans.While Merkel wants them open because she is mates with everyone.
Very sad news, RIP to the fallen, speedy recovery to the wounded. Its gonna get even worst with time, I dont see it getting any better. Lets hope there will be no refugee wave from Yemen…
CF stop talking BS about BG and SR in WW1, you apparently know nothing of history, in simple English for you: Bulgaria sited with Germany in both world wars, because Germany backed us from getting all the lands inhabited by Bulgarians in the Balkans, lands that were taken by Greece, Romania and Serbia after the fall of the Ottoman empire. Millions of Bulgarians were left over in other countries and oppressed to change their identity, there was genocide against Bulgarians in both Greece and Serbia. History its not black and white, just because Serbia is Christian country doesnt mean we have to be friends, we fought throughout history the same way Christian countries like France and England fought.
Simply British,American and Russian empire were against Bulgarian unification, Brits and Americans even split Bulgaria on the Berlin congress which led to 1885 war. We align with Germany, which happen to have Turkey as ally.
If you really want to understand why Bulgaria sited with Germany, give yourself 10 min and read some of this.
genocide-in-macedonia.blogspot.c … -asia.html
My point was/is that the historic and on going Islamic threat to Europe transcends and trumps Europe’s own internal historic ‘issues’.Which is as relevant today as it was then.IE we should have stayed neutral in 1914 just as Germany and Bulgaria should have realised that Serbia,was an ally not an enemy,with the aim of pushing the Bosnians and the Turks back to the Syrian border.Instead of which we’ve got Russia and the west forming historic and present day evil alliances with the Islamic world when it suits them thereby putting our own societies at risk.Merkel’s bs open borders ideas and our zb wit alliance with the Saudis and their Islamist mates being just one of the latest in that.Just as Germany’s alliance with Turkey and our alliance with the Arabs was then. 
raymundo:
Seems like the Politzi are now saying they have the wrong man under arrest
Or maybe have been told by Merkel that they ‘have’ the ‘wrong’ person.Which leaves the question what made the law think that he was the ‘right’ person to start with.While exactly what is it that provides Pakistan’s citizens with refugee status in Germany anyway regardless.
According to fakt24(dot)pl and the use of google translate I’ve found this:
Transport company CEO said: " I talked to him(to the driver of the hijacked truck) about noon. He said that a strange district, because the only Germans he had seen, those who work in the office, in this company, where he was to be discharged - adds Zurawski."
The truck was parked at Friedrich-Krause-Ufer(street name) which appears to be a road in an industrial estate.GPS coords for middle of the street is
52.5384, 13.3512
There is Google Street View with images from 2008
The hijacker drove the truck 5km south from Friedrich-Krause-Ufer.