I’ve gone upmarket, just enjoyed an ice-cold (-25) for 20mins, Peroni lager, Because that other fridge driver drinks that American beer urgh!!, and the bloke from Derbyshire drinks ale strained thro a sock… Am guessing that Rob bloke drinks weird beer like ■■■■■-dew, or angel sweat…
Incoming abuse alarm ON.
You’re not talking in general, you’re just trying to change things around because you’re wrong, we’re talking about having 2 cans of San Miguel.
Now you’re talking about 10 cans. No one else is. Just you. Because you haven’t a clue about the law.
Do you need this spelled out in crayons for you? You cannot be charged with being drunk in charge of a vehicle when you are not drunk.
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I’ve gone upmarket, just enjoyed an ice-cold (-25) for 20mins
Why have I never thought of that?
We rarely do frozen except on the odd occasion from that place near Wakefield…
He isn’t over the limit. He has a tachograph showing that he legally cannot move the vehicle for another number of hours and his intention isn’t to move until 10am, provable by the place’s opening hours.
You can yell “fact” at the screen as much as you like, it doesn’t change you being wrong.
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The OP may not be drunk. I am talking in general and IT IS THE LAW …PAL. If you have 10 cans in your lorry you can be charged with drunk in charge Its black and white
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What a load of old crap. How does a motorhome driver get away with having 6 bottles of champagne in the fridge and a case of cans in the garage. 2 bottles of San Miguel isnt going to even register on a breathalyser, certainly not on a station machine. PAL
DAF95XF:
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I’ve gone upmarket, just enjoyed an ice-cold (-25) for 20minsWhy have I never thought of that?
We rarely do frozen except on the odd occasion from that place near Wakefield…
+3 is about 1hour, or leave them in all day,same as +7, all day nice n chilled by parking up time, -25 about 20 min over 1hour and it freezes. That American beer freezes at 0, because it’s got no alcohol contents 
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DAF95XF:
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I’ve gone upmarket, just enjoyed an ice-cold (-25) for 20minsWhy have I never thought of that?
We rarely do frozen except on the odd occasion from that place near Wakefield…+3 is about 1hour, or leave them in all day,same as +7, all day nice n chilled by parking up time, -25 about 20 min over 1hour and it freezes. That American beer freezes at 0, because it’s got no alcohol contents
Making me wish i pulled a fridge rather than a tautliner. I dont even mind the sound of them… find it more relaxing than being woken up with minor noise thats not covered by a fridge. As long as they are on contunious… nothing worst than a stop start parking up next to you.
You are doing well writing complete sentences as I was under the impression 2 cans makes you drunk 
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DAF95XF:
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I’ve gone upmarket, just enjoyed an ice-cold (-25) for 20minsWhy have I never thought of that?
We rarely do frozen except on the odd occasion from that place near Wakefield…+3 is about 1hour, or leave them in all day,same as +7, all day nice n chilled by parking up time, -25 about 20 min over 1hour and it freezes. That American beer freezes at 0, because it’s got no alcohol contents
Duly noted sir, I don’t drink that American ■■■■ water anyway 
worldsbestdriver:
Im parked up on a little industrial estate near hastings. Its a bit warm here so i am sitting on the grass having a cold beer from my fridge.Now some dog walker who claims to have a lorry licence has told me i should be ashamed and he will be reporting me to my company.
So… am i a freak for having one or two cold tinnies occasionally? Or do any of the real lorry drivers (trampers obviously) do the same?
As some will ask. I told the bloke my name and offered to give him the transport managers personal number to call now. Then pointed out its got nothing to do with him.
TheUncaringCowboy:
You’re not talking in general, you’re just trying to change things around because you’re wrong, we’re talking about having 2 cans of San Miguel.Now you’re talking about 10 cans. No one else is. Just you. Because you haven’t a clue about the law.
Do you need this spelled out in crayons for you? You cannot be charged with being drunk in charge of a vehicle when you are not drunk.
How do you know he isnt drunk, he might be a lightweight…he could be in Scotland…then he would be be over the limit so he WOULD be drunk in charge, which is an arrestable offence under the road traffic act.
Section 5(1)(b), Road Traffic Act 1988
It is an offence to be “in charge” of a motor vehicle while over the legal alcohol limit. For a conviction under this section it is not necessary for the prosecution to prove that you were driving or attempting to drive. Rather, this offence can be committed where the vehicle is stationary and in circumstances where there is no immediate intention to drive. The offence usually arises when the police find someone sitting or sleeping within a parked vehicle after having consumed alcohol.
FACT
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He isn’t over the limit. He has a tachograph showing that he legally cannot move the vehicle for another number of hours and his intention isn’t to move until 10am, provable by the place’s opening hours.
You can yell “fact” at the screen as much as you like, it doesn’t change you being
He isn’t drunk. You can’t be drunk in charge of anything if you aren’t drunk.
You don’t know very much about the law, even if you do type it in capital letters.
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The OP may not be drunk. I am talking in general and IT IS THE LAW …PAL. If you have 10 cans in your lorry you can be charged with drunk in charge Its black and white
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Thats a load of bull. I get bottles of wine and whisky from customers all the time. I even park next to the office and take them to the car. I have never been in the office for it. I dont even drink. If anyone offers i take for family and friends. Put the sections that stipulate that.
WheelsofCardiff:
Section 5(1)(b), Road Traffic Act 1988It is an offence to be “in charge” of a motor vehicle while over the legal alcohol limit. For a conviction under this section it is not necessary for the prosecution to prove that you were driving or attempting to drive. Rather, this offence can be committed where the vehicle is stationary and in circumstances where there is no immediate intention to drive. The offence usually arises when the police find someone sitting or sleeping within a parked vehicle after having consumed alcohol.
FACT
He isn’t over the limit. He has a tachograph showing that he legally cannot move the vehicle for another number of hours and his intention isn’t to move until 10am, provable by the place’s opening hours.
You can yell “fact” at the screen as much as you like, it doesn’t change you being
He isn’t drunk. You can’t be drunk in charge of anything if you aren’t drunk.
You don’t know very much about the law, even if you do type it in capital letters.
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The OP may not be drunk. I am talking in general and IT IS THE LAW …PAL. If you have 10 cans in your lorry you can be charged with drunk in charge Its black and white
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Thats a load of bull. I get bottles of wine and whisky from customers all the time. I even park next to the office and take them to the car. I have never been in the office for it. I dont even drink. If anyone offers i take for family and friends. Put the sections that stipulate that.
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OMG! Perhaps i should have stated that you actually would have had to have drank the 10 cans?
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I’ve gone upmarket, just enjoyed an ice-cold (-25) for 20mins, Peroni lager, Because that other fridge driver drinks that American beer urgh!!, and the bloke from Derbyshire drinks ale strained thro a sock… Am guessing that Rob bloke drinks weird beer like ■■■■■-dew, or angel sweat…Incoming abuse alarm ON.
Lol technology has moved on that cheap blue moon I bought with bits in 
I drunk it all but ended using paint filters to get the bits out
shullbit:
TheUncaringCowboy:
You’re not talking in general, you’re just trying to change things around because you’re wrong, we’re talking about having 2 cans of San Miguel.Now you’re talking about 10 cans. No one else is. Just you. Because you haven’t a clue about the law.
Do you need this spelled out in crayons for you? You cannot be charged with being drunk in charge of a vehicle when you are not drunk.
How do you know he isnt drunk, he might be a lightweight…he could be in Scotland…then he would be be over the limit so he WOULD be drunk in charge, which is an arrestable offence under the road traffic act.
Hastings isn’t in Scotland.
Wheelsofcardiff…do you drive a tipper by any chance?
TheUncaringCowboy:
shullbit:
TheUncaringCowboy:
You’re not talking in general, you’re just trying to change things around because you’re wrong, we’re talking about having 2 cans of San Miguel.Now you’re talking about 10 cans. No one else is. Just you. Because you haven’t a clue about the law.
Do you need this spelled out in crayons for you? You cannot be charged with being drunk in charge of a vehicle when you are not drunk.
How do you know he isnt drunk, he might be a lightweight…he could be in Scotland…then he would be be over the limit so he WOULD be drunk in charge, which is an arrestable offence under the road traffic act.
Hastings isn’t in Scotland.
The fact is pal, if you are bladdered in your lorry parked with your card out, asleep in your bed in the knack, you can be charged for being drunk in charge, the RHA also offer some advise…HGV Drivers taking overnight rest in their cabs are particularly at risk as they can still be breathe tested and if over the limit may face prosecution for being in charge of the vehicle while under the influence of alcohol or drugs…taken from…rha.uk.net/getmedia/8e12a50 … g.pdf.aspx
shullbit:
TheUncaringCowboy:
You’re not talking in general, you’re just trying to change things around because you’re wrong, we’re talking about having 2 cans of San Miguel.Now you’re talking about 10 cans. No one else is. Just you. Because you haven’t a clue about the law.
Do you need this spelled out in crayons for you? You cannot be charged with being drunk in charge of a vehicle when you are not drunk.
How do you know he isnt drunk, he might be a lightweight…he could be in Scotland…then he would be be over the limit so he WOULD be drunk in charge, which is an arrestable offence under the road traffic act.
There have been no “arrestable offences” on the statute books for 14 years now - FACT
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shullbit:
Technically ‘‘drunk in charge of a motor vehicle’’…just saying
Technically only ‘drunk in charge’ if, you know - drunk [emoji6]
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shullbit:
TheUncaringCowboy:
shullbit:
Technically ‘‘drunk in charge of a motor vehicle’’…just saying2 cans of beer and he’s unlikely to be over the limit or not in control of his faculties or behaviour, so not “drunk” plus a tachograph legally not allowing him to drive for several hours.
Sure, some helmet of a copper could lift him but do you actually think that’s going to stand up in court?
The answer is no, it will not.
As i said…technically drunk in charge FACT!
FACT now?
Why didn’t you say?
Adding fact means it’s a cast iron truth.
Alternatively the real fact is drunk in charge requires a breath test failure and a likelihood of the vehicle being driven…or proof of impairment.
No copper will go for impairment if testing kit is available and it rarely isn’t.
Proving impairment in this scenario is all but impossible
Still… what would I know with 25 years policing experience and being a Subject Matter Expert as regards the law in this matter and the kit used (an instructor to you [emoji6])
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Monkey241:
shullbit:
TheUncaringCowboy:
shullbit:
Technically ‘‘drunk in charge of a motor vehicle’’…just saying2 cans of beer and he’s unlikely to be over the limit or not in control of his faculties or behaviour, so not “drunk” plus a tachograph legally not allowing him to drive for several hours.
Sure, some helmet of a copper could lift him but do you actually think that’s going to stand up in court?
The answer is no, it will not.
As i said…technically drunk in charge FACT!
FACT now?
Why didn’t you say?
Adding fact means it’s a cast iron truth.
Alternatively the real fact is drunk in charge requires a breath test failure and a likelihood of the vehicle being driven…
Still… what would I know with 25 years policing experience and being a Subject Matter Expert as regards the law in this matter and the kit used (an instructor to you [emoji6])
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25 years policng experience? everyone knows the police dont have much clue about actual laws.
Its the road traffic act1988 pal Section 5(1)(b)…its not realy that hard to understand, and here is some actual case law for you to study worcesternews.co.uk/news/18 … tation-m5/ He was drunk in charge.