Noworries:
Do you have to have the b+e for 3 years before supervising thought that was only for b and higher cat , think b+e is excluded from this rule
ROG:
Same for all categories including B+E
Not according to what the dsa told me 
waynedl:
Very unlikely to get a caravan with an MGW under 750kg.
Not really, there is a Polish company specialising in them, and they are quite popular in UK:
ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from= … Categories
My ex’s family got one of the oldest model, the unladen weight was 480 kg.
orys:
waynedl:
Very unlikely to get a caravan with an MGW under 750kg.Not really, there is a Polish company specialising in them, and they are quite popular in UK:
ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from= … CategoriesMy ex’s family got one of the oldest model, the unladen weight was 480 kg.
I did say unlikely.
They’re not caravans to me anyway, they’re portaloo’s 
Mine’s around 21’, but I have 2 medium sized dogs (a german shephard x, and a rottweiler), couldn’t see them in a small caravan, plus, when the rotty ■■■■■, you want as much cm3 of air as possible for it do disperse before you breath 
I did also say, those ‘teardrop’ style ones are under 750kg Max Gross, just not exactly a mobile home…
waynedl:
I did say unlikely.They’re not caravans to me anyway, they’re portaloo’s
Mine’s around 21’, but I have 2 medium sized dogs (a german shephard x, and a rottweiler), couldn’t see them in a small caravan, plus, when the rotty ■■■■■, you want as much cm3 of air as possible for it do disperse before you breath
I did also say, those ‘teardrop’ style ones are under 750kg Max Gross, just not exactly a mobile home…
Well, yeah, these are not the biggest ones 
I just thought that I might give something more to consider. If you are not interested, it’s perfectly OK with me (I would not like to have one of them as well 
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Noworries:
Noworries:
Do you have to have the b+e for 3 years before supervising thought that was only for b and higher cat , think b+e is excluded from this ruleROG:
Same for all categories including B+ENot according to what the dsa told me
Try asking the people that know - the DVLA - they are the authority which deal with licencing issues
stevieboy308:
Check the mam / gvw weights of the car and caravan, as she maybe can drive it just on a b category. If the caravan is plated at 750kg or under then the combination can be 4250kg if the caravan is over then the combination can be up to 3500kg. The total loaded weight of the trailer can’t exceed the unladen weight of the tow vehicle. You also need to check the manufacturers towing capacity of the vehicle aswell. If she can’t drive your setup on a b, you could always just put l plates on when she’s drives.Stevie
For the L plates loophole the caravan would have to be complearly empty, and wether you can pull a caravan at all with out a full licence is a grey area as the furnings in the caravan could constitute a load
AHT:
For the L plates loophole the caravan would have to be complearly empty, and wether you can pull a caravan at all with out a full licence is a grey area as the furnings in the caravan could constitute a load
Have you been drinking ?
Seriously, loaded or not makes no difference to the licence laws on towing
Licence towing laws go on the plated weights
ROG:
AHT:
For the L plates loophole the caravan would have to be complearly empty, and wether you can pull a caravan at all with out a full licence is a grey area as the furnings in the caravan could constitute a loadHave you been drinking ?
Seriously, loaded or not makes no difference to the licence laws on towing
Licence towing laws go on the plated weights
Not what i ment. A learner driver I.E. a driver with a B licence driving a B+E vehicle while being supervised, has several restrictions, one of witch is that the trailer must be unlaiden.
So with L plates on the trailer must be compleatly empty, its the same for trucks and artics etc
Most car drivers need a b+e test even if they never tow a trailer
AHT:
A learner driver I.E. a driver with a B licence driving a B+E vehicle while being supervised, has several restrictions, one of witch is that the trailer must be unlaiden.
So with L plates on the trailer must be compleatly empty, its the same for trucks and artics etc
I don’t know who passed you that myth but perhaps you could tell them that it is absolutely incorrect
They might be rules in other countries but certainly not in the UK
AHT:
So with L plates on the trailer must be compleatly empty, its the same for trucks and artics etc
That’s the requirement only when on test, lessons can in theory be undertaken in a fully loaded vehicle if you want.
ROG:
thewheel:
Licence! To be honest i wouldnt fit in a smart carLet me know what the unladen weight, the GVW and the towing capacity is on your car and I will tell you what you can tow with it on a B licence
Its a 10plate focus, im not goin outside in this whether to look at the plate! Also got a 92 200 tdi but wont be on the road til april(ish) 
mrpj:
AHT:
So with L plates on the trailer must be compleatly empty, its the same for trucks and artics etcThat’s the requirement only when on test, lessons can in theory be undertaken in a fully loaded vehicle if you want.
That could change in the future if the DSA get their way - they have been proposing having LGVs part loaded for the last few years
No mention of having trailers for the B+E test part loaded though … yet …
ROG:
Let me know what the unladen weight, the GVW and the towing capacity is on your car and I will tell you what you can tow with it on a B licence
thewheel:
Its a 10plate focus, im not goin outside in this whether to look at the plate! Also got a 92 200 tdi but wont be on the road til april(ish)
I do not know which model you have so I have used a 1.6 2008 model specs
getcarspecs.com/ford/2008-fo … s-16-trend
Unladen 1175
GVW 1595
Towing capacity 1200
With that model and a B licence you would need a trailer with a MAM of no more than 1175 otherwise it would be more than the 1175 unladen weight
1175+1595 is well within the 3500 limit
ROG:
Those gaining B+E by passing a higher test such as C+E will only have the B+E whilst the medical for the higher category is kept current - let medical lapse = no B+E
That previous info from the DfT/DVLA is not correct
I asked this question -
Driver passes B in 2000, C in 2004 & CE in 2005
What expiry date is shown for the BE gained by getting the CE?
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Hey guys, could someone give me some on info on this tried google but no luck. I have a B+E on my licence can i told a trailer that will be heavier than my car isit legal?
Mullens:
Hey guys, could someone give me some on info on this tried google but no luck. I have a B+E on my licence can i told a trailer that will be heavier than my car isit legal?
Depends on the car, the handbook will give a definitive answer. I’m fairly certain the Discovery I had could tow 3500 kgs which was more than the car weighed.
If anyone wants to brush up their caravan towing skills then you can’t beat the courses offered by the Camping & Caravan Club or the Caravan Club. They move around the country so you should be able to find one near you for your wife.
MRPJ
If you fancy a long weekend in Devon, I will sort your misses out with her B+E in 13 hours for £355 plus DSA test fee of £115. PM me.
ROG:
If you have had a B+E for more than 3 years and are over age 21 then you can supervise when your wife is driving a B+E set upAll B licence holders will have a B+E provisional on the paper part of the licence
L plates will be needed on the front of the vehicle and the rear of the trailer/caravan
Correct insurance covering a B+E learner
Around here a first time pass for B+E is around £650 all inclusive - that is for 2 x half days training and warm up and test on day 3
A B+E pass will last for as long as the B licence is valid so basically for life
Those gaining B+E by passing a higher test such as C+E will only have the B+E whilst the medical for the higher category is kept current - let medical lapse = no B+E
Pre 1997 B test passes who also passed a higher category +E test will effectively have two B+Es
Can someone confirm this is true? My HGV expiry (for medical) is 24-11-21, but my BE is 24-11-46, and I previously didn’t have BE due to passing car test after April 1997