Autonomy on breafast TV

Autonomous vehicles and the technology to support it would cost billions, something we won’t have to worry too much about. It wouldn’t be as simple as sticking a sophisticated sat nav behind the wheel, and we all know how reliable they are, even the upto date ones can’t be trusted as they take time to calculate new routes due to road closures and diversions, who would be at fault then would it be human error or mechanical breakdown.

Dr Damon:

Grumpy Dad:
The people supporting autonomous vehicles are not visionaries but idle twonks that would be best suited to a life inside an iron lung then they’ll have naff all to worry about including their breathing

The only twonks are the ones that don’t believe it is happening. Wake up people ffs.

Wake up to what exactly?!,what would you like us to do with all this crap you keep spouting on here about it■■?..it seems like your expecting us all to do something or become bothered about it and get rather upset when no one gives a ■■■■ about it.
I couldn’t care less if it happened tommorow,it’s cool I’ll stay in bed and not drive…it’s really not an issue but you seem to make us all want to pay attention to everything you post regarding the subject like your some sort of genius in the field,you’re copying links that are freely available on the internet,no one cares about it…try not to get upset but we all find it about as interesting as hearing about boring stuff on boring.com or any other boring outlet.

I will now make a confident prediction; without doubt full autonomy will come in time, but I am 100% certain that not a single contributor to this forum will still be alive to witness it.

the maoster:
I will now make a confident prediction; without doubt full autonomy will come in time, but I am 100% certain that not a single contributor to this forum will still be alive to witness it.

Don’t be so sure,Dr Doman will be preserved to continue to spread the word…I’ve just popped to the future in my time machine and managed to grab a picture of him…


See he’s clearly alive and well,in fact not alive in the human sense…let’s just say automated :smiley:

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the maoster:
I will now make a confident prediction; without doubt full autonomy will come in time, but I am 100% certain that not a single contributor to this forum will still be alive to witness it.

Dr Damon will be just to prove that he was correct after all! :unamused: Doesn’t really bother me either way, what will be will be and folk will adapt to it just the same as they have done with technology that has evolved over the past centuries. This laptop is just one example, thirty years ago very few of us (Dr Damon excepted) would have imagined truck drivers using these things daily yet it becomes second nature now.

Pete.

Tell a driver in the 1950’s that in future he could be sitting in front of 44 tonnes ("What’s them tonnes then?) in a 450 hp truck with a fully automatic gearbox, power steering and a screen on the dash that told him how to get where he is going, and his reaction would have been along the lines of "Yeah - but not in my lifetime.)

Santa:
Tell a driver in the 1950’s that in future he could be sitting in front of 44 tonnes ("What’s them tonnes then?) in a 450 hp truck with a fully automatic gearbox, power steering and a screen on the dash that told him how to get where he is going, and his reaction would have been along the lines of "Yeah - but not in my lifetime.)

And he’d have been right :wink: , not many driving in the 50’s still driving now, not many alive now.

Here we go again Dr Doodle watching star wars again.
Himself and dozy 2 must be great pals if not the same person.
One talking about himself and the other one with his head in the stars
Something like that will happen but never on the scale Dr Doodle is saying not in our lifetime

the maoster:
I will now make a confident prediction; without doubt full autonomy will come in time, but I am 100% certain that not a single contributor to this forum will still be alive to witness it.

Fair enough maoster but I think you are mistaken.
It will certainly change people’s lives that are reading this forum for sure.

I understand it’s not what drivers want to hear but all the complete denial on here is ridiculous.

Dr Damon:

the maoster:
I will now make a confident prediction; without doubt full autonomy will come in time, but I am 100% certain that not a single contributor to this forum will still be alive to witness it.

Fair enough maoster but I think you are mistaken.
It will certainly change people’s lives that are reading this forum for sure.

I understand it’s not what drivers want to hear but all the complete denial on here is ridiculous.

It’s good to have differing opinions, it’s what forums are all about. FWIW you and I both agree that automation is coming, it’s just the timescale we differ on. :wink:

A lot of people will mention computers, mobile phones, auto trucks etc and a myriad of other things that were unthinkable 30 or so years ago, but the one huge difference is that none of these technological advances required massive infrastructure changes whereas autonomous vehicles will do. I believe that whilst the will is undoubtedly there the harsh economic truth is that we simply cannot afford the infrastructure requirements to even get it off the ground.

the maoster:
A lot of people will mention computers, mobile phones, auto trucks etc and a myriad of other things that were unthinkable 30 or so years ago, but the one huge difference is that none of these technological advances required massive infrastructure changes

Errrrr, they did! Not so much changes as creating infrastructure that didn’t exist before. Incredible amounts of infrastructure have been built to service our technological advances. If anything I think autonomous vehicles will in the end require less infrastructure change than the other things you mention

Dr Damon:
Still in denial fellas, just keep kidding yourselves it’s not happening and it will all disappear. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

And just how do they propose to get an autonomous vehicle up say a farm track? DGPS isn’t that accurate and I can’t see ‘Awd Bert’ forking up a few grand to put all the gear up to permit access by such vehicles to his farm.

We haven’t got pilotless planes yet (though Ryan Air passengers may disagree) or driverless heavy rail trains and I would have thought the latter were easier to implement than a driverless artic.

Daily Fail headline “Pensioner and granchildren wiped out by driverless juggernaut”. Yeah, we’ll put them over to Dr D for a quote. :smiley:

Sand Fisher:
And just how do they propose to get an autonomous vehicle up say a farm track? DGPS isn’t that accurate and I can’t see ‘Awd Bert’ forking up a few grand to put all the gear up to permit access by such vehicles to his farm.

You do know agriculture is a bit of a leader in autonomous tech don’t you?

switchlogic:

Sand Fisher:
And just how do they propose to get an autonomous vehicle up say a farm track? DGPS isn’t that accurate and I can’t see ‘Awd Bert’ forking up a few grand to put all the gear up to permit access by such vehicles to his farm.

You do know agriculture is a bit of a leader in autonomous tech don’t you?

It certainly is

So this is a truckers forum but I find the bigger picture more worrisome.

According to wiki 1,191,000 we’re employed in coal mining in 1920 by 2015 that number was 2000.

That is insignificant compared to estimations that automation could take 4 million jobs in the next decade. google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg … n-10-years

That’s across all sectors though transport is one of the worst affected.

I don’t know when or if I’ll be replaced by an automated lorry. But I do worry how society (How inept governments) will manage such huge change. It’s going to affect us all one way or another sooner or later. Certainly in my lifetime as I’m only fairly young.

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Driverless cars ZZZZZ

uk.news.yahoo.com/how-the-first … 27757.html

Driverless tractors ZZZZ

sciencedirect.com/science/a … 02…that dates from 1972, BTW.

A couple of years ago I attended a demonstration of ‘driverless’ technology by a leading company in the field…about half of it worked, about half of the time.

This sort of thing is regularly presented as ‘the future’ but it’s always about to happen and never actually does.

Dr Damon:

IronEddie:
They’ll have to make human driven cars illegal to get me to buy/use an autonomous car.

Simply because I enjoy driving.

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Humans will not own cars or drive cars or trucks. (fact.)

How will that ever happen? Many buy cars for pleasure especially sports/ performance cars and they’ll always be a market for them. Make them driverless and the funs gone. I for one love screaming the ■■■■ off my 911 through the hills and twisties, if i came back and the tyres arent blistered its not been done properly.
Banning people from ownership is a non starter…

Some time ago, IBM built a computer called Deep Blue, which beat one of the world’s best chess players.

Strangely enough, people are still playing chess.

Sand Fisher:

Dr Damon:
Still in denial fellas, just keep kidding yourselves it’s not happening and it will all disappear. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

And just how do they propose to get an autonomous vehicle up say a farm track? DGPS isn’t that accurate and I can’t see ‘Awd Bert’ forking up a few grand to put all the gear up to permit access by such vehicles to his farm.

We haven’t got pilotless planes yet (though Ryan Air passengers may disagree) or driverless heavy rail trains and I would have thought the latter were easier to implement than a driverless artic.

Daily Fail headline “Pensioner and granchildren wiped out by driverless juggernaut”. Yeah, we’ll put them over to Dr D for a quote. :smiley:

We haven’t got pilotless planes yet CORRECTION…YES WE DO.

AndrewG:

Dr Damon:

IronEddie:
They’ll have to make human driven cars illegal to get me to buy/use an autonomous car.

Simply because I enjoy driving.

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Humans will not own cars or drive cars or trucks. (fact.)

How will that ever happen? Many buy cars for pleasure especially sports/ performance cars and they’ll always be a market for them. Make them driverless and the funs gone. I for one love screaming the ■■■■ off my 911 through the hills and twisties, if i came back and the tyres arent blistered its not been done properly.
Banning people from ownership is a non starter…

You are a non starter fella with your complete bull. You just do not get it do you? YOU WILL NOT HAVE ANY CHOICE IN THE MATTER.
This whole business is to keep morons like yourself OFF the roads.

No more 100% safe driving whilst you are multi tasking fella.

PS. maybe you are the clown I keep passing on my latest motorcycle. :smiley: