Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
let it do the gears to go bit by itself.Well that is sort of the point with an automatic.
Ironically maybe they are actually driving manuals.
youtube.com/watch?v=FxTOvnJ0Jkg 1.34-1.41
Well…it took a while but you seem to have finally sussed me out! Dammit, time for a Trucknet Tactics meeting with Bertie
wide-load85:
easier just to go for an auto such as Scania 3 pedal Opticruise… that way you have an auto that will shift up and down when you want it to by flicking the r/h stalk forward or back, but will also shift by itself as per revular auto. Or you can put it in manual and override it, easy shifts as an when required.
Nobody in their right mind should ever go for one of those ridiculous things.
switchlogic:
wide-load85:
easier just to go for an auto such as Scania 3 pedal Opticruise… that way you have an auto that will shift up and down when you want it to by flicking the r/h stalk forward or back, but will also shift by itself as per revular auto. Or you can put it in manual and override it, easy shifts as an when required.Nobody in their right mind should ever go for one of those ridiculous things.
They can be improved by updating the software to as new as it will take, huge improvement in them after 2012, but I agree pre 2012 a pretty poor gearbox.
Autos are fine, can’t remember the last manual I drove. Got to probably be somewhere in that time frame.
If you’re looking at a lorry that old the Renault and Volvos had the best auto boxes around at that time.
Hi bud I’m like you old school and always through manuals best until I drove an automatic. September 2020.
For me now no contest, auto every time
As Said earlier on the chances of finding a tractor unit of that age with under 1000000k on is remote. Most would have gone for export by now. If your old one is in realizable nick it might be worth the money to refurbished it. If not go for a euro 5 FH, they are pretty reliable and auto box’s are best of the bunch of that era.
Foden 4375 on ebay /13 speed fuller 
just saying 
I’ve only been doing this job since 2015 so not an expert like many on here, but if you’re looking at the really old trucks then autos can be a pain.
Driven many old knackered Merc and DAF autos with absolutely god awful auto boxes which spends forever deciding which gear to switch to…usually in the middle of a roundabout. Modern ones finally seem to have fixed this.
With the age you want, I might be tempted to stick to manuals unless the software can be upgraded, but that’s just my take and I like autos. Yes you can drive them in manual, but even my 15 plate DAF sometimes wants to switch back into auto by itself.
As mentioned, the chances of finding one with low milage is going to be virtually zero. We just got rid of our 13 plates in the back of a container to Africa and my 15 plate will be heading the same way soon with over a million km currently. Thats nothing like unusual for the fleet.
Best bet, see Punchy Dan’s Ebay listing.
Mazzer2:
switchlogic:
wide-load85:
easier just to go for an auto such as Scania 3 pedal Opticruise… that way you have an auto that will shift up and down when you want it to by flicking the r/h stalk forward or back, but will also shift by itself as per revular auto. Or you can put it in manual and override it, easy shifts as an when required.Nobody in their right mind should ever go for one of those ridiculous things.
They can be improved by updating the software to as new as it will take, huge improvement in them after 2012, but I agree pre 2012 a pretty poor gearbox.
It needs the clutch pedal removing to improve that bag of turds
I was thinking about this …manual box & only 222,000 km ■■?
Diggerlot:
I was thinking about this …manual box & only 222,000 km ■■?
With that wheel arch wear [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]
And last MOT was 3 years ago
New pastures
The 3 pedal Opticruise in Scanias is a much maligned box but for a driver coming from manual to their first auto is, i believe, a good choice, the 420 4 series Scania attached to it is a good wagon too and a lot more economical than a 380/420 Volvo of the mid noughties.
The clutch is only used for stopping and starting off, and obviously for maneuvering which is the advantage this box has over all other 2 pedal automated manual boxes.
Its also a superbly accurate box for driving in manual mode, there are two modes to the shift in both auto and manual, there’s A and AH(P), the H mode is meant for hill climbing because it allows gears to hold on higher up the rev range, its also a faster change than normal A.
If you want to try manual driving, again you’ve got M or MH(P), in MH the changes happen faster, the box responds accurately and instantaneously to your input, flick the lever twice it’ll block shift 2 gears instantly, especially useful, vital even, for steep hil climbing, in auto steep hills can result in the vehicle losing speed so quickly the gearbox can’t keep up in auto mode, in manual once you learn the ratios you can block down up to 3 gears at a time in M or MH so you can keep momentum in the right gear every time.
MH also gives faster more controlled acceleration away from rest, obviously its the best for exhaust braking too because you can keep the revs in the correct band for max retarding.
Only ever known one failure on an Opticruise 3 pedal and that was some electronic unit atop the box overheated one very hot summer’s day, fortunately i was on holiday at the time, other than that the box never gave any issues.
Volvos auto box is good in auto, not as easy to drive in manual mode in my humble but not really needed, can’t say as i’ve found them particularly reliable long term when compared to Scania and ZF Arsetronic autos, thought to be fair my experience is all with vehicles fitted with one or more PTOs which may have some effect on longevity.
Much as i prefer manuals i would never suggest a manual Volvo or Scania over either of their own autos, the Swedes affectation for full synchro boxes ruins them, if you wanted another manual i’d suggest finding a good CF or XF Daf 460 with the 16 speed box, a lovely box to use.
Arsetronic is reliable, but not exactly inspiring in use, improved again if you drive it in manual…but note arsetronics tend to have clutch release bearing failures anytime from 500k upwards depending on how much real work the vehicle has done, if left the bearing will fail and its a tow in job.
^^^^Better with a CF than XF the XF mechanism is awful,the CF straight connection is unbeatable.
Punchy Dan:
^^^^Better with a CF than XF the XF mechanism is awful,the CF straight connection is unbeatable.
Quite agree Dan, i was sorry to see my litte 460 manual CF go, would leave much more poweful but strangled motors for dead and brilliant on fuel.
blue estate:
Diggerlot:
I was thinking about this …manual box & only 222,000 km ■■?With that wheel arch wear [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]
And last MOT was 3 years agoNew pastures
Ex ARR Craib truck, will have spent it’s life on the Shell contract running round Aberdeen, wheel arch wear will be because you are in and out of the cab all day, furthest it will have travelled is either Montrose or Peterhead
‘My’ 18 plate MAN TGX must be one of the last ever made! The new one we ordered 6 months after ‘mine’ came couldn’t be spec’d with a manual box, “don’t make them anymore”.
Everybody seems to think I’m mad asking for a manual but I like it. I suffered the scourge of man autos for about 10 years and never ever liked them. ‘My’ 16 speed ZF MAN is marginally better on fuel than the 12 speed auto that came after.
nomiS36:
‘My’ 18 plate MAN TGX must be one of the last ever made! The new one we ordered 6 months after ‘mine’ came couldn’t be spec’d with a manual box, “don’t make them anymore”.
Everybody seems to think I’m mad asking for a manual but I like it. I suffered the scourge of man autos for about 10 years and never ever liked them. ‘My’ 16 speed ZF MAN is marginally better on fuel than the 12 speed auto that came after.
Last time I picked up a Man brochure you could still spec drum brakes 
Diggerlot:
I was thinking about this …manual box & only 222,000 km ■■?
If you only want it for low weight work might as well go in with a silly offer like 3-4k.The shipping costs would have to be factored in some where if its exported and most non Euro export markets ain’t going to want a 4x2 with a 10.5 litre motor in it.
Ask them to put a new MOT on it then get a year’s work out if it and scrap it. 
While that’s the equivalent age value of a proper truck. 
justtrucks.com.au/trucks-for … JTM5179891
discoman:
Carryfast:
adam277:
Just dont plan on having it long. This government is going to go nuts on people with older polluting vehicles. Only a matter of time before they target old HGVs.
To be honest, I am surpised they haven’t already.That being said I really enjoy driving a automatic. Just nice to sip a cofee without having to put it down for a gear change.
There’s no link between emissions and transmissions.Australian trucks meet most recent Euro emissions standards with manual transmissions.
The final sentence says it all.Do we really want that mindset in control of a truck.I laugh at the way these amateur muppets approach a hazard using their brake as late as possible and let it do the gears to go bit by itself.Even getting a good gear to go with is too much for them, let alone the finer points of well timed downshifts to maximise engine braking and using the downshift points to govern the approach.
You are wrong yet again, NSW are coming down hard on old trucks here, RTA, RMS are starting to fine polluting trucks , further more some polluting trucks are not permitted in parts of Sydney especially the Kingsgrove tunnel … all new trucks are Euro 5 euro 6 … the old Sterling , kenworth , frieghtliner and others are frowned upon…
But of course you live here and know all the rules and regs… just like Qube who pull 90t on a scania day cab …
As for light vehicles been happening since circa 1970’s …
Are you saying that a 2020 MX13 doesn’t meet Euro 5 and isn’t offered with an 18 speed Fuller transmission option ?.
If not what’s this all about.
‘‘18 speed performance and reliability needed for years of trouble free operation’’.The inference being obvious.
paccarfinancial.com.au/2020/ … ot-better/
Carryfast:
If you only want it for low weight work might as well go in with a silly offer like 3-4k.The shipping costs would have to be factored in some where if its exported and most non Euro export markets ain’t going to want a 4x2 with a 10.5 litre motor in it.
Ask them to put a new MOT on it then get a year’s work out if it and scrap it.While that’s the equivalent age value of a proper truck.
justtrucks.com.au/trucks-for … JTM5179891
Shows how much you know, again
It’s the buyer who pays for shipping, and yes, they will be quite happy with a barebone 4x2 in many more places than whatever that is you’ve linked, because you can google.