Wow, as Robert hightlighted…a thorough education on Miesse and their operators!
By the way, the Deraedt-Miesse, picture at Woluwe close to nowadays shopping-centre?
PS: I don’t want to disturb the thread, but here’s the Vanneste Atki I mentioned earlier. There weren’t many made and I believe they all had Krupp cabs, 220 Roll-Royce and ZF 6-speed 'boxes. If they’d put ■■■■■■■ 335s and Fuller 9 0r 13 'boxes in them, I’ll bet they would have been much more successful (Just my opinion!).Robert 
robert1952:
This is an interesting thread - I knew nothing about Auto Miesse and suddenly I’m being educated! Some great pics there Tip-top. Anyone know what gearbox went into those late models with the Gardner and ■■■■■■■ engines?‘ERF-Continental’ mentioned Vannese - I expect you already know that they had one of those Krupp-cabbed LHD Atkinsons from the end of the '60s.
Robert
Hey Robert, Yes that was an exopsition model and they bought it, with a Rolls in it.
Miesse used all different parts Timken, ZF, Fuller, it was a marque as in the U.K. put together only the lorry was made by them.
A bit as the Belgium AEC’s even they had a belgian chassis made by Cockerill Landoz (Liège)
her two pic’s of it, somewhere found on the site.
Cheers Eric,
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Which coachbuilder put the cabs on these two?
robert1952:
PS: I don’t want to disturb the thread, but here’s the Vanneste Atki I mentioned earlier. There weren’t many made and I believe they all had Krupp cabs, 220 Roll-Royce and ZF 6-speed 'boxes. If they’d put ■■■■■■■ 335s and Fuller 9 0r 13 'boxes in them, I’ll bet they would have been much more successful (Just my opinion!).Robert
Hey you never disturb, everything is Always wellcomed as is it twice.
Here a heavy load.
cheers Eric,
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anorak:
Which coachbuilder put the cabs on these two?
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hey anorak, sorry don’t know, COOVI made a lot jette near Brussels, they were so many.
Here near me in Beveren (Roulers) were there 7 who built cabs as buses, best known is Jonckhere
coaches, but built several cabs for Steyer, Volvo, army Miesses/FN/Brossel,but some used them as private.
Was drive by the train distribution red and green lorries with the big B on them.
Cheers Eric,
Eric, you mean the NMBS-colli? Transport to and from railway-stations just as van Gend&Loos, BRS,
Collignon, Calberson and many others did?
I agree, the list of cab-makers is very long, you named a wellknown, with Jonckheere now part of
the VDL-company (busses-coaches with Bova and Berkhof in the group) and Coovi. Furthermore,
Bollekens in Duffel (Lier-region), Liekens in Brussels, Roset in Oostrozebeke?, and even Van Eck in
Lexmond (Netherlands) doing quite some numbers on post-war REO, Ginaf, etc
Pitty no book was written on Belgian makes, apart from Minerva, Dasse and other Verviers-origins,
Van Hool…
By the way, Deraedt-Vanneste had several Varmo-trailers in their fleet or am I wrong?
En-Tour-Age:
Eric, you mean the NMBS-colli? Transport to and from railway-stations just as van Gend&Loos, BRS,
Collignon, Calberson and many others did?I agree, the list of cab-makers is very long, you named a wellknown, with Jonckheere now part of
the VDL-company (busses-coaches with Bova and Berkhof in the group) and Coovi. Furthermore,
Bollekens in Duffel (Lier-region), Liekens in Brussels, Roset in Oostrozebeke?, and even Van Eck in
Lexmond (Netherlands) doing quite some numbers on post-war REO, Ginaf, etcPitty no book was written on Belgian makes, apart from Minerva, Dasse and other Verviers-origins,
Van Hool…By the way, Deraedt-Vanneste had several Varmo-trailers in their fleet or am I wrong?
hey, yes thats possible, Varmo was a big player in his region, of course not a Vanhool.
In those days you bought trailers mostly in your region.
We had Godderris, MOL,OVA and Gheysen Verpoort for a lowloader and for the heavy’s and extendibles de French Fruehauf.
The first change we did was buying Spitzer for the cement trailers, we had even some Brugoise’s bulk trailers
( a license Interconsult Sweden)
Cheers Eric,
@Eric, the one in front of Eeklo station is a Brossel tractor of the Vicinal (NMVB/SNCV) not a Miesse.
@Anorak, the TV unit for Belgian broadcasting (BRT/RTB) was made by Jonckheere on bus chassis.
@ Robert, I remember ZF 6 gear boxes on the Miesse lorries.
cabs on Miesse were made by several coachbuilders: COOVI (Jette), Jonckheere (Roeselare), Bostovo, later Stoelen (Lier),maybe Van Hool and Bollekens, but I never saw any photo of it.
Here are some pictures of the Belgian AECs Eric mentioned. I always liked this cab on the Mark 3 AECs. Robert
mandator:
@Eric, the one in front of Eeklo station is a Brossel tractor of the Vicinal (NMVB/SNCV) not a Miesse.@ Robert, I remember ZF 6 gear boxes on the Miesse lorries.
cabs on Miesse were made by several coachbuilders: COOVI (Jette), Jonckheere (Roeselare), Bostovo, later Stoelen (Lier),maybe Van Hool and Bollekens, but I never saw any photo of it.
Cheers ‘Mandator’! I hope you like the Belgian Mandators. Robert
Every country had its (local) suppliers and specialists…to proceed on your list:
Acomal-Mechelen, AJK-Kaulille (Atelier Janssen Kaullile, Atcomex-Gullegem, ATM-Maaseik (A. Tonnaer Maaseik),
EKW-Eksel/Hechtel (Ekselse Konstruktie Werken), Jans-Hoeselt, KWB-Bree (Kempische Wagenbouw Bree), LAG-
Bree (Lambert & Arnold Geusens)…and many others…
local cab builders were more limited
@Robert, that cab was introduced from the Mk5 onwards 
Here typical Bollekens cab op de Mk3.
I notice some overlap with the cabs for Camerman as far as Deraedt-Vanneste-cab, I may be wrong though.
mandator:
@Eric, the one in front of Eeklo station is a Brossel tractor of the Vicinal (NMVB/SNCV) not a Miesse.
@Anorak, the TV unit for Belgian broadcasting (BRT/RTB) was made by Jonckheere on bus chassis.
@ Robert, I remember ZF 6 gear boxes on the Miesse lorries.cabs on Miesse were made by several coachbuilders: COOVI (Jette), Jonckheere (Roeselare), Bostovo, later Stoelen (Lier),maybe Van Hool and Bollekens, but I never saw any photo of it.
Here is the picture of the Jonckheere bus-chassis vehicle:
IIRC, the prototype Charbonneaux Television was indeed a broadcasting vehicle, IIRC for French TV. Arguably, that was what influenced him to make the cab look like a TV. Maybe he supplied more than one broadcaster, before his design was adopted by Bernard, Le_■■■■■■■ et al? We await Monsieur Saviem’s contribution on the subject.
It would be nice to put the coachbuilders’ names to the different cabs. I thought that the two I included in my above post maight have been Bollekens, but I am not sure now. They certainly looked more “lorry-like” than the Stoelen examples posted earlier- those had the appearance of b*ses.
@en-tour-age, the strange looking cabs with Camerman (not the genuine Bussing ones) were made in house based on design of Philemon Camerman (co-owner)
Good suggestion to paste the cab-builder to relevant vehicles…and not to mix up
but herewith some Mack’s of Van Steenbergen…all NR4 ex WW2 with above Mack
having an Van Dijck-Merksplas (nowadays better known as VeDeCar for fridges)
whereas the middle and under had Liekens-Brussels as cab-manufacturer.
This Belgian cabbed Scammell looks to have the same style as the AECs that Gaever ran, especially where the roof ‘peaks’ the windscreen. Is it the same manufacturer? Robert
more than probably a Bollekens cab, as built for the Volvo 395/495 range in those years.
First this Scammell had the original cab in Van Gaever service
