Australia then and now


I wonder what engine that’s got in it?

@ramone judging by the two exhausts, I’d say 8/71 or 8/92 but Aitkinson 3800 offered Cummins from 290 to 400. Cat was also available.

Obviously Australian built cabs , were they spartan like ours or more user friendly?

Hot and poorly ventilated, but acceptable for the times.

@spardo About your time here, or shortly after.

I believe it’s there so that Skippy and his mates can cross the road safely. But they cross anywhere they like, unruly bounders :wink:

An idle question for SDU, spardo & co: why did Oz never adopt the tacho? I presume there’s a lot of bollydicks involved but that doesn’t explain the whole story.

I think SDU mentioned some roads have cameras on them set up to monitor drivers hours.

Are you still on log books?

Not me in my current job, no. I’ve still got a logbook (because HC licence and you never know when you might need it again), but these days I’m on local work doing multi-drop/ multi pick-up stuff. In theory (and sometimes practice, depends who you work for) you can drive any truck with a GVM of 12T or less all day without need to fill out a logbook (let alone a tacho): similarly, in theory you can drive any truck with a GVM exceeding 12T without a logbook (or tacho) providing you’re operating within a 100km radius of your regular base.

NB This is a very basic summary: there are exceptions, inclusions and exclusions too labyrinthine to detail here, and that’s just in NSW.

The story I heard was that a company was using (anolog) tachos for their own purpose. One of their drivers used the tacho information in evidence , to defend a speeding charge. The judge dismissed the evidence as unreliable.
At a later date, when a government suggested introducing tachos, it was pointed out that there was a precedent proving them to be unreliable.
I don’t know if it is true or not, but it has more rings of truth than Big Ben peeling midnight.
The government refusing to admit one of their agents was wrong.
The odds of beating a traffic charge in the magistrates court are worse than winning Lotto.
Typical of how governments shoot themselves in the foot.

My coach has a tacho in it, I have no idea how to use it.

Much the same as many new passes here then.
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Sorry. :flushed_face:
That’s unfair to many newbies out there, but feed lines like that do not come along very often.

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I’ve heard that one before SDU not knowing how to use one isn’t a defence for running bent :grin::grin::grin: … god help us if they ever drain the English Channel :shushing_face:

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Manual entries are the invention and work of the devil, one thing wrong then it messes everything up, get an hour up the road and the dam carbuncle of a machine has more warnings, light flashing and alerts than a space shuttle about to hit the atmosphere of planet earth.

It’s just worth pointing out here that tachos are inadmissible as evidence for speeding in the UK. This dates back to It’s introduction in 1980 and was at the request of the Association of Chief Police Officers, who realised that if the tacho was admissible for prosecution, as it is in most European countries, then it’s also admissible for defense, and they really didn’t like the sound of that. Deciding that they would rather forgo the ability to prosecute from the tacho trace rather than have some lorry driver opting to go to court waving his card saying “no i wasn’t your honour, look at this.”

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Probably why they don’t have them in the USA, with their bill of amendment rights to freedom.

The US has e-log systems now. They do not need to have a speed trace.
But they do record, time worked and miles driven, and are connected to tracking systems to show their location.
Average speed would be easy to see, and I suspect that spot speeds would be available with a little effort. A roadside stop might not show it, but a deep look in connection with a serious offence might.

They have weigh bridges everywhere on the interstate network.

Which they have got to pull into, driving past is an offence, so much for the land of the free. Mind you, I seem to think that Australia is the same in that regard, if they’re open you have to voluntarily stop.