Astran / Middle East Drivers

We have all had a miss understandings with other drivers, it can be more complex when the miss understanding is discussed in two languages, (neither fully understood by either party)

My own misunderstanding was betweeen Birecik and Kizletepe on a trip to Baghdad around 1982, I was running with two Swedish truck drivers who were on their first trip. There was an overtaking incident where one of the Swedish trucks was alleged to have put a turkish truck driver off the road. The details were being explained to me by one of the Swedish drivers at about the same time as a very irate turkish tanker driver pulled into the TIR park at Kizletepe. I felt it was my resonsibility to difuse the situation and went over to explain things in a rational manner. The conversation culminated in me being stabbed in my right ear…this was described to me by the other Swedish driver who witnessed the whole scenario from the safety of drivers seat of his F89… Great…
Following a lot of shouting, bad language and Idle threats on my part, the tanker driver pulled out the TIR park, the malaise had atracted the attention of three or four of Hick’s who were having a cook up at the time. There was a quick assessment of the situation, a plan to kill the offending turkish tanker driver was quickly discarded on numerous grounds not least that we were in Turkey and all Turkish tanker drivers with a moustache look the same. An old army shell wound dressing that I had in my first aid kit of sorts was applied to my ear and a tied off on the other side of my head. I must have looked like a right d…k.
Having stemed the flow of blood from said ear and changed white T Shirt, set off for Zacho,

But full thanlks to the Hicks’ s drivers who helped me to Haswah, took me to the French Camp near Abu Graib, insisted on staying outside the camp doctors office (a young lady doctor, quite attractive as I recall) whilst some painfull treatment was administered.
I never had a chance to say thanks to you guys, but thirty years later…Thanks!!!
Thanks also to Freddie Stevens who was on for WaterSkills, an own account operator, who helped me back through Iraq, Jordan and Syria.
Mick B

PanX
I do recall hearing about your Van Go incident ,did it help in anyway with the painting, :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: I believe you were extreemly lucky not to sustain a greater injury,and yes vengence on a Tonka driver was not the thing to do in Turkey,as I found out when being cut up by a Kamikazi bus on the road down to Ankara ,smoke pouring out of my ears :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: I got passed him, gave him the end of my trailer ,bad move on my part he got passed again and as he did the rear door opened and a bottle of coke smashed into my windscreen, :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: I decided it was better to retire from that conflict ,wounded I limped into the TelexMotel ,and called it a day.
Roger

Hi Roger,
Good to see you back on here, back from the frozen depths of Scandinavia I guess. No my Van Gogh incident didn’t help at all with the painting, I’ve just had to shell out to have the hall, stairs and landing done.

It’s gone a bit quiet on here recently, no good arguments etc. :wink: I think Fred’s on holiday again, dual destination job, one week at Kapicule and another week at loggerheads with the good lady.
Post some photos on Roger, you must have a few.
All the very best.
Mick B

Random pic time!

IMG_NEW.jpg

PanX:
Hi Roger,
Good to see you back on here, back from the frozen depths of Scandinavia I guess. No my Van Gogh incident didn’t help at all with the painting, I’ve just had to shell out to have the hall, stairs and landing done.

It’s gone a bit quiet on here recently, no good arguments etc. :wink: I think Fred’s on holiday again, dual destination job, one week at Kapicule and another week at loggerheads with the good lady.
Post some photos on Roger, you must have a few.
All the very best.
Mick B

Fred wrote :- I will second that - lets have some photo’s of your new surroundings Roger :slight_smile:

A Few more 70s pics


Going up Tahir


Looking Down From Tahir


Parking at Sammi Sirrisi’s Office Halbouni Street Damascus

The Hejaz Railway, of TE Lawrence fame, now no longer. The last time I was in Damascus I had a look at the railway station which is beautiful, and has been preserved. Whether or not it will survive the current shenanigins is anyone’ s guess. Robert :frowning:

Not exactly M/E but I thought it very funny

freshir:
Not exactly M/E but I thought it very funny

I’m not in the least surprised! I understand that they were in pursuit of the improbably rare Astran-liveried 6x4 ERF NGC ā€˜European’, as drawn by Benkku of Finland (pictured below)!! Robert :laughing:

Astran ERF NGC 420 drawing.jpg

I took this photo in 1980/81 on the Koper/Tartous Ferry. I believe the two lads on the right drove for a Evesham Company, can’t recall their names. Can anyone put names to these drivers?

Gordon
Forest of Dean

Did the two drivers on the left work for Hick’s from South Wales ? The guy on the left reminds me of Dennis McCarthy. :smiley:

gordon john:
I took this photo in 1980/81 on the Koper/Tartous Ferry. I believe the two lads on the right drove for a Evesham Company, can’t recall their names. Can anyone put names to these drivers?

Gordon
Forest of Dean

Gordon
My dad took this photo (and a couple more ) and I sure written on the back is Koper / Tartous , would this be the same boat. Not sure who the guy is anyone have a name

Gordon.

I guess the two drivers from Evesham, drove for ā€œSpiers & Hartwellā€, company still running…

Hi Mushroomman

I worked for Hicks, South Wales, when I took the photo, but can’t remember these guys on the left.

Regards
Gordon
Forest of Dean

Hi Boatchaser,

This could well be the same ferry, but there was a couple running. Can’t help with the name of the guy.

regards
Gordon
Forest of Dean

Hi Hopey1945

Thanks for the info, I thought they were from Evesham area.

Regards
Gordon
Forest of Dean

gordon john:
I took this photo in 1980/81 on the Koper/Tartous Ferry. I believe the two lads on the right drove for a Evesham Company, can’t recall their names. Can anyone put names to these drivers?

Gordon
Forest of Dean

Hi Gordon, I am not sure about the guy on the left, but the second one is Ray Usher an M&C driver from Braintree. The third one looks like " Spud" a Spiers and Hartwell driver, the fourth one I cant remember his name but also with Spiers and Hartwell. regards Jamie.

Hi Gordon, I am not sure about the guy on the left, but the second one is Ray Usher an M&C driver from Braintree. The third one looks like " Spud" a Spiers and Hartwell driver, the fourth one I cant remember his name but also with Spiers and Hartwell. regards Jamie.

I looked at that picture Jamie and did’nt recognise anybody. But yes of course, if you look more closely, you can see it is as you say Norman :smiley:

ccc

1-scan0003.jpg

M&C Jamie:
Hi Gordon, I am not sure about the guy on the left, but the second one is Ray Usher an M&C driver from Braintree. The third one looks like " Spud" a Spiers and Hartwell driver, the fourth one I cant remember his name but also with Spiers and Hartwell. regards Jamie.

I thought exactly the same thing Jamie, then last night i met up with John McClung who also lives here now, although he has not seen the pic he does recall Norman using that ferry one time way back as he had a long load to deliver to the ME ( Possibly along with Tony Baker with a 2nd load ).

SteveBC.