Carryfast:
I’m sure in view of the job and the vehicle I could pay the boat fares up front and claim them back as expenses.
Another solid gold gem here 
Do you never get embarrassed at how stupid you sound?
Carryfast:
Harry Monk:
Carryfast:
Can you prove/show any example where the carnet contains anything more than country of departure and country of destination interns of route and clearance ?.When you enter a country on a TIR carnet, you have to state your intended departure point from that country and this border crossing is written in the carnet.
Firstly even assuming that means pre listing every border crossing entry and exit point on route before departure ? ( doubtful because that would stop any flexibility of routing which sort of defeats the object of TIR transit clearance ) that obviously still doesn’t stop a decision to change the route BEFORE raising the carnet ?.
While surely having to list every border crossing point on route would need an amount of boxes on the carnet as long as your arm ?.
When it only seems to contain the two boxes for country of departure and country of destination to my knowledge.
Yes but my knowledge trumps your knowledge given that I have undertaken numerous journeys using the TIR carnet and you’ve never even taken a truck to France. 
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
I’m sure in view of the job and the vehicle I could pay the boat fares up front and claim them back as expenses.Another solid gold gem here
“claim them back as expenses” now you are really in Cuckoo Land.
Your failure to report at the reporting locations would have set in place a search to see whether you were OK or had stolen the motor & load.
Once located, the road foreman (Ex Para) would have been dispatched to eject you from the vehicle and you would have to make your own way home, no expenses !!
I feel stupid now for never trying……‘I know I was supposed to get the ferry from Holyhead boss but I felt Liverpool the better option so heres the expenses claim, because of course it was easy getting a walk up freight booking on a manically busy ferry route’
Carryfast:
I’m sure in view of the job and the vehicle I could pay the boat fares up front and claim them back as expenses.
Tell you what CF:
If you are prepared to pay for your own ferry up front, I reckon I could get you a start tomorrow.
Any chance you could top up the tanks on the way out too?
Bit of trouble with the DKV card, mate.
Carryfast:
If every man and his dog was doing it the trade press wouldn’t have been filled with adverts for top quality international work for owner drivers and offers regarding same with just a phone call.
Yes, mate.
And all of those adverts were 100% true, with genuinely excellent and quick payments. That is why all those owner drivers from that era retired to their private islands in the Bahamas years ago.
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
If every man and his dog was doing it the trade press wouldn’t have been filled with adverts for top quality international work for owner drivers and offers regarding same with just a phone call.Are you too stupid to see that’s exactly why the ‘trade press’ was filled with adverts? You really do come across as quite dim sometimes
It’s you who seems to be having issues with understanding the idea of supply and demand.
IE low supply of owner drivers v high demand for their services.
As opposed to the total opposite situation in the employed sector.
I’ve always advised new drivers looking for an international break to check out their owner driving options first but the start up capital hurdle is generally the problem.
As opposed to an over subscribed lottery and face fits bs in the employed sector.
Harry Monk:
Carryfast:
Harry Monk:
Carryfast:
Can you prove/show any example where the carnet contains anything more than country of departure and country of destination interns of route and clearance ?.When you enter a country on a TIR carnet, you have to state your intended departure point from that country and this border crossing is written in the carnet.
Firstly even assuming that means pre listing every border crossing entry and exit point on route before departure ? ( doubtful because that would stop any flexibility of routing which sort of defeats the object of TIR transit clearance ) that obviously still doesn’t stop a decision to change the route BEFORE raising the carnet ?.
While surely having to list every border crossing point on route would need an amount of boxes on the carnet as long as your arm ?.
When it only seems to contain the two boxes for country of departure and country of destination to my knowledge.Yes but my knowledge trumps your knowledge given that I have undertaken numerous journeys using the TIR carnet and you’ve never even taken a truck to France.
To be fair getting to the point where start up capital was the only hurdle stopping me coupling up a unit to a loaded trailer and taking it a lot further than France it’s obvious that I had a reasonable ‘idea’ and ‘understanding’ of the regs required to do it whether CMR or TIR.IE an O licence ain’t cheap or easy.
The only difference was that you had ‘experience’ having done it for the first time.
So tell me which part have I missed when firstly my interpretation of ‘transit’ means any
viable route with customs clearance facilities you choose and logging border crossings ‘when’ entering doesn’t mean ‘before’ entering them.
While even if wrong in this case I’m not referring to an example of any retrospective, change of route, nor any border crossings without equivalent customs clearance facilities anyway.Having said that going anywhere in the Middle East was a can of worms during the Yom Kippur crisis or after the Iranian revolution even with a 6x4 KW or Merc let alone D series with a day cab.
A bit like going to Russia with UK plates on a truck or car would be now.
Italy has always been within my comfort zone in that regard.
Ironically I guess that low council wages during those critical early working years not only did for my house buying chances but also my career.Owner driving was always going to be my only and best option.
Franglais:
Carryfast:
I’m sure in view of the job and the vehicle I could pay the boat fares up front and claim them back as expenses.Tell you what CF:
If you are prepared to pay for your own ferry up front, I reckon I could get you a start tomorrow.Any chance you could top up the tanks on the way out too?
Bit of trouble with the DKV card, mate.
I guess that stowage for plenty of Jerry cans and good old fashioned running cash in the form of DM or CHF would have been more use than the DKV card beyond Austria going via Turkey etc knowing the size of a D series tank.In addition to all that engine oil needed to top it up wherever you could find it.
As for the ferry I’d prefer to trust WS to pay me back for the fares than have to make do with that Ford day cab running all across East Euro and the Middle East added to all the fuel and oil top ups.
> Carryfast:
> I’m sure in view of the job and the vehicle I could pay the boat fares up front and claim them back as expenses.
And would you also pay the insurance for countries you weren’t covered for ■■
This thread is like watching a car crash unfolding in slow motion!
I don’t think that I’ve encountered a person so divorced from reality who is also so totally convinced that his reality is the only sane one.
I’m reminded of the joke about the man driving the wrong way up a motorway shaking his fist at oncoming traffic convinced that it’s them and not him who’s wrong.
Carryfast:
… I’ve always advised new drivers looking for an international break to check out their owner driving options first but the start up capital hurdle is generally the problem.
Another golden nugget from Carryfast, the gift who just keeps giving and giving. 
Let’s just say that the prospective “new” driver had the necessary start-up capital.
At that point the “new” owner driver would be losing money on every trip at an incredible rate due to lack of actual experience and having to learn every lesson the hard way.
Carryfast, you really are completely clueless about this topic, which gives me (and possibly the rest of the readers) great entertainment because you don’t realise the sheer scale of how far out of your depth you are.
In Hindsight, I had 2 ex Brent Borough Council Commer dust carts to ship to Saudi.
If only I’d known CF then, he could have taken them, kipped in the back (loads of room even if slightly scented) & paid his own ferries.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
If every man and his dog was doing it the trade press wouldn’t have been filled with adverts for top quality international work for owner drivers and offers regarding same with just a phone call.Are you too stupid to see that’s exactly why the ‘trade press’ was filled with adverts? You really do come across as quite dim sometimes
It’s you who seems to be having issues with understanding the idea
No, it really isn’t
Carryfast:
I’ve always advised new drivers looking for an international break to check out their owner driving options first
I do still have a sneaking suspicion you’re a parody account, a very good one. Because let’s face it you are mind bogglingly ridiculous if not
Carryfast:
I’ve always advised new drivers looking for an international break to check out their owner driving options first but the start up capital hurdle is generally the problem.
As opposed to an over subscribed lottery and face fits bs in the employed sector.
It’s very good of you to freely offer advice to new drivers as to the best way to obtain international work. This is where your vast experience is invaluable.
Personally, I always found that the best way to obtain international work was to approach a company which did international work and ask them for a job. But I accept that we are all different.
dieseldave:
Summary of proceedings so far…Carryfast has taken yet another perfectly good OP and trashed it with page after page of unconnected stuff.
What a surprise!! (Not.)Carryfast appears to have not taken much notice of great first-hand advice from several posters who have actually done TIR work, preferring instead to argue the toss at almost every turn.
What a surprise!! (Not.)
Nearly up to 10 pages now with his complete and utter crap, anyone want a sweepstake on how many pages we can get to?
You have to give him props though, a thread filled with drivers who have done it while has done the swet sum of FA and yet he still persists in telling everyone else where they are going wrong! 
Franglais:
tmcassett:
Franglais:
You haven`t got a clue…I’m 100% with you on this part regarding Carryfast and his experience of Euro driving.
Sadly, the vast majority of the rest of your post above is your usual, boring & tiresome Brexit routine.
Really ?
The bit about how TIR is rare within Europe for decades? Or my comments on T1s, T2s, CMRs or MNRs?
The bit about choosing routes?
The bit about ferry pricing?tmcassett:
I can’t actually help you with your desire to be a truck driver and head off round Europe. For clarity, I am a class 1 driver myself but have never done continental driving as I have only been in the industry for 11 years and quite frankly it has never been of interest to me…
No irony from me. Just letting the OP know to ignore anything you have to say on the subject because you have no experience or knowledge of Euro truck driving.Well, that clears that up then!
I do apologise again however if the mention of what happens in the real world to-day offends you.
I am truly sorry that your feelings are hurt when facts are mentioned.
Not offended in the slightest and no hurt feelings here, you have more experience in Euro driving than me (who has none), so your points above regarding TIR, ferries, routes ect are more credible coming from you than me. I was just pointing out how sad you continually come across in your 1 man mission regarding Brexit.
Harry Monk:
Carryfast:
I’ve always advised new drivers looking for an international break to check out their owner driving options first but the start up capital hurdle is generally the problem.
As opposed to an over subscribed lottery and face fits bs in the employed sector.It’s very good of you to freely offer advice to new drivers as to the best way to obtain international work. This is where your vast experience is invaluable.
Personally, I always found that the best way to obtain international work was to approach a company which did international work and ask them for a job. But I accept that we are all different.
Where of course the unfortunate new hopeful would be shown the door as soon as they mentioned no international experience because the firm would supposedly lose loads of money on every trip they were sent out on especially their first one.
They couldn’t have realised ‘the sheer scale’ of.the undertaking in driving a truck across the continent…unless their face fitted and they’d found a way to be exempted from the same old no experience no job bs which affects every sector of the industry except crap local work which the self entitled elite don’t want.
Carryfast:
Harry Monk:
Carryfast:
I’ve always advised new drivers looking for an international break to check out their owner driving options first but the start up capital hurdle is generally the problem.
As opposed to an over subscribed lottery and face fits bs in the employed sector.It’s very good of you to freely offer advice to new drivers as to the best way to obtain international work. This is where your vast experience is invaluable.
Personally, I always found that the best way to obtain international work was to approach a company which did international work and ask them for a job. But I accept that we are all different.
Where of course the unfortunate new hopeful would be shown the door as soon as they mentioned no international experience because the firm would supposedly lose loads of money on every trip they were sent out on especially their first one.
They couldn’t have realised ‘the sheer scale’ of.the undertaking in driving a truck across the continent…unless their face fitted and they’d found a way to be exempted from the same old no experience no job bs which affects every sector of the industry except crap local work which the self entitled elite don’t want.
So how come countless tens of thousands of drivers managed to do exactly that?