"The anti-social behaviour that has been reported is stated to be having a detrimental effect on the quality of life of those in the area which includes littering, early morning engine noise, criminal damage, refrigeration noises through the night, inappropriate parking, road safety concerns and human excrement left on premises including children’s nurseries and residents gardens.”
I suppose I see their reasoning for the overnight parking ban! I mean who has a dump on someone’s garden lol
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That pretty much describes many town centres as well.
adam277:
Perhaps the council could give a discount to business rates/tax for people who do this.
This would never happen as the council wouldn’t take the financial hit but companies would jump at the chance.
Also why are so many fuel stations relatively small despite often being on large A roads with nothing nearby. It would be so easy to add some hgv parking.
But no as the council will not give any Concessions/incentives to do it.
Local authorities don’t have the powers to give such discounts, and due to the way business rates work a council wouldn’t take any financial hit if they were able to. In essence, central government sets the rate, local authorities collect it but it all goes into a central pot to be redistributed according to govt funding formulae.
If land is developed (e.g. by being made into a lorry park) that increases the rateable value of the site, and so increases the business rates payable (or brings it into scope of business rates). This is probably why such lorry parks don’t get built.
funny this topic is posted today as I noticed when driving home this morning they have closed a lay-by on the A5 at muckley corner due to the absolute animals that are parking there.
They’ve trimmed the hedges back and started fitting metal fencing to stop people from wondering into residents gardens for a pee or crap! they’ve even put signs up on the fences about not peeing or taking a dump in the lay-by.
adam277:
Perhaps the council could give a discount to business rates/tax for people who do this.
This would never happen as the council wouldn’t take the financial hit but companies would jump at the chance.
Also why are so many fuel stations relatively small despite often being on large A roads with nothing nearby. It would be so easy to add some hgv parking.
But no as the council will not give any Concessions/incentives to do it.
Local authorities don’t have the powers to give such discounts, and due to the way business rates work a council wouldn’t take any financial hit if they were able to. In essence, central government sets the rate, local authorities collect it but it all goes into a central pot to be redistributed according to govt funding formulae.
If land is developed (e.g. by being made into a lorry park) that increases the rateable value of the site, and so increases the business rates payable (or brings it into scope of business rates). This is probably why such lorry parks don’t get built.
This is true, but the main obstacle is the nightmare of obtaining planning for HGV parking.
Locals won’t normally bat an eyelid at plans for a petrol station being built, but should them plans boast a lorry park on the side and all the NIMBYs come out in force. At the end of the day, all a lorry park does for locals is attract extra heavy traffic into the area for very little gain.
I know people don’t like parking in MSA’s, but the most realistic solution is probably to extend MSA parking areas. Take Sandbach services as an example, woefully small truck park but empty fields to the side offering plenty of opportunity for expansion into a proper truck stop, well out of the way of anybody.
adam277:
Perhaps the council could give a discount to business rates/tax for people who do this.
This would never happen as the council wouldn’t take the financial hit but companies would jump at the chance.
Also why are so many fuel stations relatively small despite often being on large A roads with nothing nearby. It would be so easy to add some hgv parking.
But no as the council will not give any Concessions/incentives to do it.
Local authorities don’t have the powers to give such discounts, and due to the way business rates work a council wouldn’t take any financial hit if they were able to. In essence, central government sets the rate, local authorities collect it but it all goes into a central pot to be redistributed according to govt funding formulae.
If land is developed (e.g. by being made into a lorry park) that increases the rateable value of the site, and so increases the business rates payable (or brings it into scope of business rates). This is probably why such lorry parks don’t get built.
This is true, but the main obstacle is the nightmare of obtaining planning for HGV parking.
Locals won’t normally bat an eyelid at plans for a petrol station being built, but should them plans boast a lorry park on the side and all the NIMBYs come out in force. At the end of the day, all a lorry park does for locals is attract extra heavy traffic into the area for very little gain.
I know people don’t like parking in MSA’s, but the most realistic solution is probably to extend MSA parking areas. Take Sandbach services as an example, woefully small truck park but empty fields to the side offering plenty of opportunity for expansion into a proper truck stop, well out of the way of anybody.
It still wouldn’t get used because of the price. The local councils could start to put a condition in the planning for the new industrial estates that there needs to be free truck parking areas in them, otherwise planning permission gets refused. The likes of prologis parks you can’t even wait on them for a booking time without getting threatened with a ticket