An insulting wage

A firm local to my area had a job advert requiring class 1 & 2 drivers for local farm collections of the white stuff , gave them a rang for the breakdown of what’s on offer

£6.25 Ph for first 9 hours then time & a half after that, 6 days on 2 off rolling rota, minimum of 12 hours a day usually more upto 15, 4,5,6 am starts required ,
Potential to earn over 500 a week but have no life doing so…

Pass it up and move on then.

There are plenty of people out there who aren’t scared of a days graft and would jump at the chance if earning £500+ a week.

We all know that the rates on offer these days are low and things aren’t going to change for a while but a job like that where putting in the hours will always be a requirement at least means the money is a given.

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Neilf

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neilf:
Pass it up and move on then.

There are plenty of people out there who aren’t scared of a days graft and would jump at the chance if earning £500+ a week.

We all know that the rates on offer these days are low and things aren’t going to change for a while but a job like that where putting in the hours will always be a requirement at least means the money is a given.

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Neilf

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This sounds like it comes from someone who is on considerably more than 6.50 an hour. How can a contributor to a truck forum think that 6.50 is ok?
Hey, if there,s nothing else and you have to do it then…you have to do it. But don,t tell me its ok or imply that refusing it amounts to being afraid of a days work.
Very poor.

Also having driven milk tankers, i must say this can be a scary job. Very unstable. There are no baffles in the tank and the load moves constantly. Add in farm access and you have a job with real responsibility.
I hope they dont fill this vacancy.

Mansel Davies?

they offer you some money, and you say no thanks, goodbye? :unamused:
what about saying, i’m not a idiot, pay the going rate. it’s £120 per day after tax.
they’ll pay it if you’re any good.

I don’t think that in this day and age £6.25 is an acceptable rate for ANY job but wake up and smell the coffee.

In the current economic climate you aren’t going to be offered a great deal more and at least that job offers the chance if a half decent wage at the end if the week. Also going on the fact it is milk collections it suggests a rural area where rates are always lower.

Any decent job will have a queue of drivers waiting patiently in line for it so by nature of the fact that it was advertised in the local rag/jobcentre/internet will always be low rate.

There are so many if these “look at this low rate” posts on here that it’s blindingly obvious that these are the rates on offer today.

If you don’t like it go look at most other semi skilled jobs out there and before long you will find that they are being screwed to the floor for money also.

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Neilf

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have done this job of collecting the white stuff for the last 8 yrs and can say in all honesty its a good job :smiley: ,
looking at the wages mentioned im working for the company in question :slight_smile: .
i do the night time collections though the wages rate is the same as days, its fab on a summers evening or the early hours of daylight :sunglasses: , in the winter it can be intresting with the snow ,ice and lanes that the gritters dont visit , your either prepared to up out and earn a wage doing something difrent or your not. its not for everyone as the turn over of drivers is quite high

as for the driveing of the tankers!!! no difrent to driveing other kinds of LGV as long as you remember its a tanker and not a ferrari as many would like it to be

It’s not a £500 a week job though is it as you have to do the equivalent of two weeks in one to get that , mine would be a good wage if I worked 80 hours a week for it , so in that sense its a poor wage for the job in hand …if it was £4-500a week for your average 40 hours with the option of overtime it would be worth a look …

well if it is the same company as who im working for , on a 6/2 rota with bonuses ect you will be on at least 450 a week T/H and none of the day routes come close to 12hrs unless you have had problems

kemaro:
It’s not a £500 a week job though is it as you have to do the equivalent of two weeks in one to get that , mine would be a good wage if I worked 80 hours a week for it , so in that sense its a poor wage for the job in hand …if it was £4-500a week for your average 40 hours with the option of overtime it would be worth a look …

Seems like four wheeler rates to drive an artic and up to 15 hour shifts 6 on 2 off :open_mouth: :unamused: :confused:

Leave that one for the Poles. :laughing: :laughing:

Kemaro

I totally agree with what your saying.

I don’t think that a driver should have to put in 50-70 hours to make a decent wage BUT as the bread winner you have to do what is necessary to put food on the table.

Back to your OP I don’t think the advertised hourly rate is acceptable but it is not an insult, it is the going rate these days. Also with the hours on offer it would provide a reasonable pay packet at the end of the week all be it for plenty of hard work.

I live in an area of high housing costs where the job oppotunities for drivers are low and the wages poor. I know I have to chase the money to provide a decent standard of living for my family. I would much rather make that money over 40 hours and sleep in my own bed every night but if I’ve got to do 60+ hours and be away all week to achieve it that’s what I’ll do.

Pay in our industry is getting worse not better and I don’t personally think that will change for a long time. All of these perceived driver shortages and the promise of being able to name your price will never happen. Also your location will have a major impact the money you can make unless your prepared to travel for it.

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Neilf

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brushstroke:
… its not for everyone as the turn over of drivers is quite high

Hmmm! This is normally a quite revealing indicator as to the quality of the job/wages etc.

Solly:

brushstroke:
… its not for everyone as the turn over of drivers is quite high

Hmmm! This is normally a quite revealing indicator as to the quality of the job/wages etc.

the job is, what it is ,most farms were built for horse and carts not 44ton tankers doing ballet :open_mouth: ,so its difrent to say the least :smiley:
as for wages i will never earn enough but make do on what i earn !

These “this wage is crap” threads have taken over from the “■■■■■■■■ in the ***** truck cut me up, thanks you ■■■■” threads. Can we get some original discussions going. If you feel the wage beneath you, crack on and work elsewhere.

Hasn’t this job always been about putting in the hours?

So when its broken down into an hourly wage it doesn’t look great, but at the end of the week the paypacket is pretty ok, especially when you look at the amount of “real” work we have to do to get it. So thats it with whingeing drivers.

I’ve done milk collections both summer and winter and to be honest its a great job, the driving is a real challenge, cups of tea and bacon butties off farmers (and they’ll talk to you forever if you give them a chance), Best views in the known world while you’re driving around.Downside is this job doesn’t involve jumping in the bunk while you’re being loaded by a load of Poles on the same wage as you are, you do it all (not milking the cows :laughing: ).

You are responsible to the company you’re collecting for, the environment (milk is a hazardous material even if it’s not classed as such) and most of all the farmer (if you don’t take the sample properly you could cost him a lot of money). So if any driving job should be paid a bit better, then milk collections should be, but the truth is that there are people out there looking for work, and this is a great job for the right sort of person.

The wage is crap, thats why there is a high turnover of drivers, unfortunately in out of the way areas there will always be a lower pay rate than in other areas, housing should be cheaper but transport and fuel costs soon balance that out unless you happen to live close by.

Good jobs do not get advertised outside.

Would i do it?, at the moment no, however if i had no job and bills stacking up then i would do it out of desperation, but only as a stop gap till i found a proper job, which judging by the staff turnover is what happens there.

schrodingers cat:
Hasn’t this job always been about putting in the hours?

So when its broken down into an hourly wage it doesn’t look great, but at the end of the week the paypacket is pretty ok, especially when you look at the amount of “real” work we have to do to get it. So thats it with whingeing drivers.

I’ve done milk collections both summer and winter and to be honest its a great job, the driving is a real challenge, cups of tea and bacon butties off farmers (and they’ll talk to you forever if you give them a chance), Best views in the known world while you’re driving around.Downside is this job doesn’t involve jumping in the bunk while you’re being loaded by a load of Poles on the same wage as you are, you do it all (not milking the cows :laughing: ).

You are responsible to the company you’re collecting for, the environment (milk is a hazardous material even if it’s not classed as such) and most of all the farmer (if you don’t take the sample properly you could cost him a lot of money). So if any driving job should be paid a bit better, then milk collections should be, but the truth is that there are people out there looking for work, and this is a great job for the right sort of person.

Would people be willing to pay more for milk though… So the wages are always going to be low IMHO

I did the white stuff for a while, the pay was bloody good, the cost of milk has bugger all to do with it :wink:
Someone else is taking the cream off this job at that rate :laughing:

Last wek Dairycrest took 2p per litre off their farmers, bloody robbers.