I’d have told him sorry I can’t move I’ve broken down and I’m waiting for an engineer. I’ve done that a few times, our trucks are inhibited so they won’t pull off unless you’re in first or reverse. One drop means you have to park on a main road in Warwick, there is room to get past you as long as there are no cars parked there (which there always are) but there is another way around. Obviously a car driver would die if he had to reverse thirty metres and take the next road so they come and argue with you instead. Whack it in third, floor throttle, truck judders and goes nowhere. “Sorry mate clutch has gone gonna have to call a towtruck.” Wait five for him to clear off then start unloading.
Tacos store info for at least 365 days
so even if you dont download after 28 days the company can still get your days details
hitch:
Tacos store info for at least 365 days
so even if you dont download after 28 days the company can still get your days details
The card itself doesn’t store a years worth of info…the Tacho unit does though. That is what you meant wasn’t it?
bestbooties:
What I hope to find out when I do my course,is how to avoid the problems I had on my first day out when as I said earlier,my tacho recorded about 15 minutes work for a 5 minute queuing to leave the depot.Then as I pulled into my usual laybye after less than four and a half hours,I got the warning,“Excess driving time 4 hours 31 minutes”,The tacho then locked up the mode button would not change the duty.When I got back to the yard and removed my card,I got the message,“Excess driving time,8 hours 30 minutes”.
Question:Can they still shoot you■■?
When you get a warning message (break required @4.15hrs driving), you have to “accept” the message by pressing the “OK” button (siemens) or the “enter” button (stoneridge). The tacho will then revert to normal operation and let you change the mode.
tofer:
Does your company provide training on tachos or are you having to self finance your course?
My agency is putting me on a course this week.No charge but in my time.
on my siemens unit when you eject the card it doesn’t ask if you are ending your shift, it asks if you want a printout for the last 24hours, the default is no. If you change it to yes you are saying yes to a print not to ending your shift.
You can’t program an end of shift until the next time you insert your card when it asks you if the time that you took your card out was the end of the shift. I assumed it was that way as you cannot be expected to predict the future, what if you told it you’d ended your shift then when you went into the office they asked you to do a couple of hours overtime in the yard?
You can see driving time left on the taco screen and the renault i drive also tells you on the display next to the speedo along with rest time. When i first started driving it i assumed that it didn’t count time queuing as driving as the taco screen changes to other work, however when you pull forwards again it counts it all as driving so i don’t know how long you have to be stopped before it decides to record it as other work?
I’ve never heard of a head locking the mode switch
I have. Doesn’t the ignition have to be on to change it on a digi tach?
It has to be on to change it on our analogue ones, we’ve got the pop out drawer type ones.
Driveroneuk:
I’ve never heard of a head locking the mode switch
I have. Doesn’t the ignition have to be on to change it on a digi tach?
No not an all of them anyway, I think they used to need the ignition on before changing the mode switch when they first came out though 
On the MAN I drive you can change the mode with the ignition switched off, to be precise you have to change the mode with the ignition off because every-time you switch off the ignition the tachograph goes onto rest so you need to change it to other work or whatever.
tachograph:
Driveroneuk:
I’ve never heard of a head locking the mode switch
I have. Doesn’t the ignition have to be on to change it on a digi tach?
No not an all of them anyway, I think they used to need the ignition on before changing the mode switch when they first came out though
On the MAN I drive you can change the mode with the ignition switched off, to be precise you have to change the mode with the ignition off because every-time you switch off the ignition the tachograph goes onto rest so you need to change it to other work or whatever.
Now that would really really ■■■■ me off.
tofer:
tachograph:
Driveroneuk:
I’ve never heard of a head locking the mode switch
I have. Doesn’t the ignition have to be on to change it on a digi tach?
No not an all of them anyway, I think they used to need the ignition on before changing the mode switch when they first came out though
On the MAN I drive you can change the mode with the ignition switched off, to be precise you have to change the mode with the ignition off because every-time you switch off the ignition the tachograph goes onto rest so you need to change it to other work or whatever.
Now that would really really ■■■■ me off.
I think you’ll find most of the newer ones are programmed this way now, they can be re-programmed to default to other work if the company is prepared to pay.
Have to say though that after a while you just get into the habit of changing the mode when you switch off the ignition
Cheers for all the responses guys… Nice to see that these things are idiot proof then… NOT!
How many times will VOSA let me get away with being thick■■? 
tachograph:
Driveroneuk:
I’ve never heard of a head locking the mode switch
I have. Doesn’t the ignition have to be on to change it on a digi tach?
No not an all of them anyway, I think they used to need the ignition on before changing the mode switch when they first came out though
On the MAN I drive you can change the mode with the ignition switched off, to be precise you have to change the mode with the ignition off because every-time you switch off the ignition the tachograph goes onto rest so you need to change it to other work or whatever.
My son drives an MAN 7.5 tonner and he has to leave the ignition on when he has his breaks otherwise the tacho defaults to “other work” when it’s turned off.
bestbooties:
My son drives an MAN 7.5 tonner and he has to leave the ignition on when he has his breaks otherwise the tacho defaults to “other work” when it’s turned off.
What happens if you want to leave the truck and go for a no2, is that other work now??
I think it’s the same as the tacho described earlier up the thread where you can change modes with the ignition off.
Cynic-al:
What happens if you want to leave the truck and go for a no2, is that other work now??
Depends how hard you gotta work at it 
Sorry it was just waiting for that answer
I know . Cell, Padded, Coat with straps Locked good night 
Well it seem I am a prophet…
Cos tonight I have been told I have an 08 motor, Wrexham to Wolverhampton and back (Subject to usual bull doo dah and any changes etc)
Here we go on the learning curve… 
Will post how I get when I get up tomoz. Enjoy Comic Relief, its the one night i did want to stay in, sad I know but true…
Adam_Mc:
hitch:
Tacos store info for at least 365 days
so even if you dont download after 28 days the company can still get your days detailsThe card itself doesn’t store a years worth of info…
It can do, depends on how many mode changes etc you clock up in a day. My card has records going back to June 2008 on it at the moment.
Well have to say that was quite painless, was expecting card to be chewed up, spat out and all sorts of misery, but no…
Think I mucked up the print out though…
Started aat 18;00, finished at 01;30, so I have in theory worked over 2 days??
When I finished shift, ready to leave I pressed OK, it comes up with Driver Printout, I click OK and it says 24hrs, Iclick yes and take print, in a rush so I dont look at it until this morning, it seems it has only printed from midnight, seem to remember the date was flashing, should I have scrolled it back to 13/03/09 and taken two prints. Guess all the shift is stored on the card, so im not illegal.
Just like to know what I should have done for the prints…
Coddy:
Think I mucked up the print out though…
Your card appears to have been working correctly so unless you had to make any mode switch corrections, or write explanations for any deviation from the rules, no print out was legally required anyway so you won’t have mucked anything up.