Honestscott76:
@Seth70 I can understand that taking a full time job means giving control of your life to someone else (employer).
True. But you become a slave to that mobile, just dying for that 3am text asking if you can make it somewhere 10 minutes ago to start a shift…
OVLOV JAY:
I love the agency drivers who don’t want a full time job, because they like the flexibility to pick and choose their days and times to work. Don’t see too many of them though, as I choose to be in bed at 1am on a Sunday, whereas they “choose” to be in tesco at that time
…Yeh it’s great knowing you get 2 days pay for a single shift. 
depends who your work for. I get my phone call Thursday or Friday lunchtime with the details of my next weeks work. Never sat around waiting for the phone to ring, or had calls at unsociable hours.
F-reds:
Honestscott76:
@Seth70 I can understand that taking a full time job means giving control of your life to someone else (employer).True. But you become a slave to that mobile, just dying for that 3am text asking if you can make it somewhere 10 minutes ago to start a shift…
I only work nights, I either wake up to a start time or in some cases a choice of starts / jobs, I rarely wake to nothing. I use around 4 different agencies to source my work. I don’t do 10 mins notice work. I choose.
Honestscott76:
Contraflow:
^ More evidence that the agency drivers on here have been lying about the all the extra dosh that they earn.If you’re on megabucks per hour, there’s no need to try and rinse an extra half an hour out of the job.
Nice one son.
Half an hour a day equates to 2.5 hours a week over 5 shifts. Agency drivers are earning on average £12 per hour, so that’s an average earning of £30 per week extra. Over 12 months (52 weeks) that equates to £1560. That his holiday pay sorted. [emoji23]
That’s certainly not my average. The average is more like £10/hr and that’s only if you’re class 1 and get a steady stream of class 1 work. Some agencies only pay £8/hr for class 2 (overtime is usually more, though some companies pay standard rate up to 11 or 12 hours, and HIAB pays more than either).
IndigoJo:
Honestscott76:
Contraflow:
^ More evidence that the agency drivers on here have been lying about the all the extra dosh that they earn.If you’re on megabucks per hour, there’s no need to try and rinse an extra half an hour out of the job.
Nice one son.
Half an hour a day equates to 2.5 hours a week over 5 shifts. Agency drivers are earning on average £12 per hour, so that’s an average earning of £30 per week extra. Over 12 months (52 weeks) that equates to £1560. That his holiday pay sorted. [emoji23]
That’s certainly not my average. The average is more like £10/hr and that’s only if you’re class 1 and get a steady stream of class 1 work. Some agencies only pay £8/hr for class 2 (overtime is usually more, though some companies pay standard rate up to 11 or 12 hours, and HIAB pays more than either).
again depends on the agency, I get paid max rate for what ever vehicle driven, apart from ADR which gets a little bit more.
bald bloke:
seth 70:
,he most probably got an hours o/t out of that stuntThat’s what I used to do when I was on the agency and a company had washing facilities.
I do that myself sometimes. Get back and ask for overtime and if there isn’t any then the truck is so dirty I have to wash it. Then fuel it on the slowest setting. Then park it as far away from the office as possible. Can usually squeeze 45 minutes out of it.
Gosh. That’s me well and truly told Honestscott76.
We really do need a sarcasm alert emoticon, as the is clearly not cutting the Dijon.
Still, what do you expect from your typical, workaday, average, Agency Salad Leaf??
Blimey I thought this thread would have escalated a bit more by now.
Anyway having done both agency and now proper full time driver I can honestly say that agency isnt to bad apart from the umbrella ltd stuff and seasonal work and permanent hiviz +bluetooth earpeice +gay limp etc.
To be honest though I prefer the stabilty of full time work but horses for courses.
Back in the day agency drivers where crap and the cab usually needed a good steam clean after these dirty buggers had been on it. Now though companies instruct agency folk to clean cab and fuel up at end of shift so as long as they know how to act like a proper driver they aint too bad.
ve been on agency work for the past 8 months after leaving a regular night shift trunking job after 8 yrs, i made the choice to work as and when i can . i tell u now some so called professional drivers ive come across havent a clue outside there regular job . i work at the same company everyday and the majority of there drivers are unionised whingers who complain if they have to do more than the next man . i went out with there instructor for a test drive . he was embarrassed while i was chatting to him and told him of my 28 yrs of experience in everything from tippers to low loaders . he only been driving commercially for 5 yrs . my point is not all of us agency are new drivers . think carefully b4 you comment
Honestscott76:
Olog Hai:
Honestscott76:
I only state FACTS. Self employed under your own ‘limited Company’ pays far better than ANY driver working under an employment contract. Presuming we do similar hours. Also I don’t get dictated to in regards to days off, holidays. Another plus is I hold ALL deductions in my bank.Rather a broad statement that, given that you don’t actually know what every single other driver in the country earns. What about those on the petrol tankers, Ford’s transporter drivers and similar top-dollar jobs? Got any FACTS on those?
I agree it’s broad but I base my Facts on my own earnings on CURRENT job availability. The ‘Top Dollar’ jobs as you describe are very far and few between, and are basically no longer available.
The ‘Top Dollar’ employers have squeezed the goodness out of those types of employment contracts to ALL new starters. Hence, they are not ‘Currently’ available.
Ah, OK. A nice little shifteroo of the goalposts then. I’d have thought you ‘agency because I dictate things’ BSers would have been above such behaviour… 
bennyacker:
ve been on agency work for the past 8 months after leaving a regular night shift trunking job after 8 yrs, i made the choice to work as and when i can . i tell u now some so called professional drivers ive come across havent a clue outside there regular job . i work at the same company everyday and the majority of there drivers are unionised whingers who complain if they have to do more than the next man . i went out with there instructor for a test drive . he was embarrassed while i was chatting to him and told him of my 28 yrs of experience in everything from tippers to low loaders . he only been driving commercially for 5 yrs . my point is not all of us agency are new drivers . think carefully b4 you comment
I must admit m8 there is some really good agency lads like yourself,but im afraid 90% of um i wouldnt give the keys to a outside toilet,they are on the agency for one reason and thats because their not worthy of a full time job 
seth 70:
bennyacker:
ve been on agency work for the past 8 months after leaving a regular night shift trunking job after 8 yrs, i made the choice to work as and when i can . i tell u now some so called professional drivers ive come across havent a clue outside there regular job . i work at the same company everyday and the majority of there drivers are unionised whingers who complain if they have to do more than the next man . i went out with there instructor for a test drive . he was embarrassed while i was chatting to him and told him of my 28 yrs of experience in everything from tippers to low loaders . he only been driving commercially for 5 yrs . my point is not all of us agency are new drivers . think carefully b4 you commentI must admit m8 there is some really good agency lads like yourself,but im afraid 90% of um i wouldnt give the keys to a outside toilet,they are on the agency for one reason and thats because their not worthy of a full time job
I have come across quite a few of them. They are the main reason I left a contract in September even though I was getting more than enough shifts. Marc poli cant keep good drivers so he has to get as many degenerates as he can to fill slots
mac12:
But is that to every worker they have or just the ones that work full time at companies that give there own staff 33 days holiday.
That is what the agency pays their own employees regardless of what the fulltime at companies is so every agency worker on PAYE gets it.
Honestscott76:
I only state FACTS. Self employed under your own ‘limited Company’ pays far better than ANY driver working under an employment contract. Presuming we do similar hours.
How many drivers are on £41k plus bonuses for a 56hr week because that’s what I recall Howdens drivers being on.
F-reds:
True. But you become a slave to that mobile, just dying for that 3am text asking if you can make it somewhere 10 minutes ago to start a shift…
I know what I’m doing at least one day before. I knew what I was doing on Friday on Wednesday, I knew what I was doing today on Thursday, I found out what I’m doing on Monday yesterday.
You bite, everytime, Conor old son.
I am not an agency driver but I work weekends and some trucks I get are generally clean and tidy, if so I leave it that way, sometimes better!! Got in a new 15 plate this weekend, filthy inside and out, went to put my stuff in the fridge, only to find it full of stuff, made my first stop and thought I would just check the stuff in the fridge, only to find that it is all mouldy and out of date, went straight in the bin, cleaned it out and put my stuff in. Needless to say I won’t be cleaning the truck when I get finished tomorrow!! If the full time reg driver wants to live like a grot then he can crack on!!
got into a motor last Friday at B@Q opened the draw and it was full of rubbish,as an agency I could not say if it was a fellow agency or regular but I left it,i take my rubbish out every night,i don’t understand some drivers,as some other op pointed out what must their houses be like
I consider myself as an agency driver & pride myself in looking after a motor as if it was my own. Most of the time tractor units are quite well kept by the regular employees but occasionally I do come across vehicles that are a disgrace & then ask myself what does the house look like who ever drove this last. I’ll spend time when & where necessary cleaning a cab & carry cloths & even a packet of wipes. I could go on & on.
