A contract of service means that you provide of service such as driving and they pay you, if no work you don’t earn most agencies used to use these. A contract of employment means you work for the agency, most agencies now use these under regulation 10 to avoid the AWR and having to pay you more after 12 weeks.
weeto:
They would only be entitled to more than they were getting if the agency was guaranteeing x amount of overtime per day/week and iv’e never seen an agency offer guaranteed overtime, only a guaranteed amount of hours per day like 8 even if you’ve done less, voluntary overtime does not have to be counted for the 12 week average, as in 40 hrs plus 10 guaranteed but only paid 40 holiday.
All truck drivers are entitled to have overtime included in the calculations because overtime is not voluntary. Can’t see HJ being too happy when I get back to Leeming Bar on the way back from Lockerbie and tell them I’m parking up for the day because I’ve hit 8hrs.
mac12:
A contract of service means that you provide of service such as driving and they pay you, if no work you don’t earn most agencies used to use these. A contract of employment means you work for the agency, most agencies now use these under regulation 10 to avoid the AWR and having to pay you more after 12 weeks.
So what’s the benefit to them having a contract of service rather than of employment, and if I’m not employed by them who am I employed by?! 
Re the cycle couriers this is rife in the courier sector and as for a certain company who issued a statement to r4 you can’t work for anyone else under there contract
It’ll hit the likes of yodel etc and amazons new venture. Also the same company pays just above cost for the cans it’s has drivers buy or lease you think agencies are bad look in to the courier sector. Take a certain 3 lettered large company they pay there own pool of drivers same day small vans drivers 50 pence per mile yet a service partner pays 60ppm to the driver so the service partner is charging around 75 -90 ppm work out how that works
cupidstunt:
mac12:
A contract of service means that you provide of service such as driving and they pay you, if no work you don’t earn most agencies used to use these. A contract of employment means you work for the agency, most agencies now use these under regulation 10 to avoid the AWR and having to pay you more after 12 weeks.So what’s the benefit to them having a contract of service rather than of employment, and if I’m not employed by them who am I employed by?!
None a contract of service is better for you because if you work 12 weeks at a company paying more than your agency rate you would get that amount, you would be classed as a temporary worker but still get holiday pay. A contract of employment would mean you work for them they would pay you even if no work but only for the hours in your contract usually 8.
And how many agencies keep people at a job for that long nit many at all
If it’s been made complicated, then it will never be to actually make you better off. Either they are paying less or no stamp for you, your pension gets reduced despite them putting you into one of their mickey mouse schemes as a “compulsory move”, and anything they say you can claim off tax - probably isn’t already, or may be withdrawn in the near future.
For all the flaffing around, I’d want a headline rate of around £20ph for that I think. There’s plenty of work about and plenty of other agencies in the meantime that’ll pay you a fair whack with no bull taken off.
Stop around.
alix776:
And how many agencies keep people at a job for that long nit many at all
Most do. It doesn’t have to be a continuous 12 weeks.
alix776:
And how many agencies keep people at a job for that long nit many at all
In 8 years on agency I worked for 3 main firms and only swapped when I wanted to
Everywhere Iv worked Iv always been supplied if one is needed… Iv never heard of anyone deducting wages for a uniform that’s absurd…
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