Advice needed

Agree with winseer, I did night work a few years back just as a transit driver but in the summer it can be ■■■ as you wish you was walking with the missis somewhere nice under the moonlight :laughing: . But in the winter I too would prefer as its better then being stuck in watching crap tv. I had all the trying to get to sleep crap but you can’t because the neighbours won’t shut up.

But if I was taking home £400+ a week without paying out £1000 for a class 1 I would do it all again.

Money comes first in my books because without money you can’t really do a lot.

Bankruptcy = getting ALL debts written off, especially SECURED ones like mortgages. It’s only the ‘good’ option if you’ve just got divorced, and your soon-to-be ex is gonna get the house. Ie. you’re going to squander the asset that will soon be hers anyway, because you’ve already ‘lost’ the house.

Walkaway = getting all UNSECURED debts written off, but it is assumed you’ll still carry on paying the secured debts. Eg. ditch all the credit cards, and keep your house up-to-date with payments.
The mortgage lender will protect you from being bankrupted by an unsecured creditor “trying it on”, because if they were to go ahead and pay to bankrupt you (unlikely to start with) then they’d try and get you to default the mortgage, and hand over to them what you used to pay to the mortgage lender. Ideally, your house will be in negative equity which adds increased protection, since the mortgage lender will NEVER allow some credit card firm to force a sale at a loss of THEIR asset, which you’ll of course promptly default the shortfall on, since house sale shortfalls actually flip over into unsecured debt after re-posession. Not good for them, and they’ll fight tooth and nail not to let unsecured creditors get a look in. :sunglasses:

Of course, the mortgage lender won’t wear that, thus they fight your corner for you without even being asked. :wink: The same applies to any attempt by an unsecured creditor to get the debt flipped over from unsecured to “secured on the property”. Plenty of mortgage contracts have the clause within them “You may not take second charges out on our asset without our express written consent”. I know mine does. :grimacing:

Thus, despite the lies they tell you, walking away from unsecured debt does NOT result in you losing your house, can only “trick” you into a re-mortgage and can “lie” to you about the need to sell it to raise funds for them. Courts don’t grant “Charging Orders” upon houses unless they can be exercised in a reasonable time space. A never ending charge is thus theft from the mortgage lender whom you’re not in default with. It will be mitigated into a “you may re-possesss if enough equity appears within 6 years to both settle the mortgage claim, and the additional claim” which does mean some liability IF you have massive amounts of equity right now. My guess is if anyone did however, they wouldn’t be completely out of funds to the extent they’d be defaulting the credit cards in the first place - right?

On the other hand, if you DO go ahead and bankrupt yourself, then not only do you pay for it yourself, you run the risk of having any assets taken from you and put into the pot for disbursement. This would include not only the house, but any inheritances, windfalls, cars, and there’s even a risk of having your pension looted - should you have a good enough one worth looting! :open_mouth:

Builders merchants do pay top dollar but youre only working while theyre open. If you did 60 hours a week you`ld be the richest truck driver in britain whether you had 3 or 6 axles. The days have gone when class 1 got paid more than class 2 you just need a general haulage job and a word with the people at a company called payplan (google it). Its free advice and they will help you with any unsecured debt, even fines but be liberal with your answers, worked for me, good luck

Builders merchants do pay top dollar

I’d disagree with that. A lot of merchants pay quite low considering that you are doing a lot of tricky access sites with a large vehicle and using a crane for offload.

I keep getting told that "If I had a HIAB and MOFFET ticket, I’d have wall-to-wall work on the agencies as much as I wanted. :open_mouth:

Yeh. Problem is, not only is it 15% lower paid than C+E, I’d be taken off what I’m doing now to put into the work that needs covering, and I’d never get back into C+E again. :frowning:

Two tickets. Taken the time and expense to get them. 15% paycut. I don’t call that top dollar somehow.
The upside? - I’d have unlimited shifts available to me, but I want fewer, longer, better paid shifts NOT 6 days of 8 hours at a lower hourly rate.
It isn’t that hard to get 2 or 3 12-15 hour shifts per week, so I think I’ll stand pat. :wink:

But then if you had full time job like me with a big firm (Wolseley) and having a boss who’s really nice. Would you then stay for £8.50hr with 8hrs mon-fri or pay £1000 to get hgv 1 and risk losing it all and not getting another full time job for a year or more

I’m between a rock and a hard case but yes I think stay and pay my debt for now.

Is it possible to get weekend work so I can pay off debt quicker ?

Well would your boss not put in a word for you at the hub to get you class 1 if you paid. Wollesley are a big plumbing noise that run artics, are they not?

8wheels:

Builders merchants do pay top dollar

I’d disagree with that. A lot of merchants pay quite low considering that you are doing a lot of tricky access sites with a large vehicle and using a crane for offload.

Quite. The pay is not good in my experience and there is a lot of hand ball, too. Lovely in the ■■■■■■■ rain, sliding around in the mud. :unamused:

The site workers will be in their portakabin passing around the ■■■■ and reading the Daily Spurt :imp:

That is a good idea about Wolseley class 1 but the nearest depot is west horndon about 50 miles + from me. Depends what they pay I suppose. Being Wolseley proberly only £9hr on class 1 :laughing: