Whenever someone joins us, even those under 25s with no experience, they get paid exactly the same rate as everyone else. No idea where you got that idea from.
Secondly, I’ve never charged anyone for either uniform or training, as I said earlier.
And as it is indeed a public forum, so yes I am fair and honest. I’m clear what the job is when people join us, we run legal 99.9% of the time, I’m fair with my customers. And yes, I am proud of my little firm. A lot of haulage firms fail, by some miracle mine hasn’t and it supports 25 staff, not bad for a mere forkie.
albion:
We have a clause to repay training costs and it’s never been enforced. Where it would be is if someone came to us in and decided to leave more or less after training - I’m not here to help them get another job.
albion:
Actually a lot of sectors do. I spend time on an employment forum and a regular question is, do I have to pay back training costs and the answer is yes if you signed a contract with a repayment clause in it.
If you don’t have a contract, then no, you won’t be paying.
If you don’t like the clause, then don’t sign it and take a different job.
And your point?
The second quote confirms the first, I’ve never enforced the clause. Third quote refers to contracts in general.
Whenever someone joins us, even those under 25s with no experience, they get paid exactly the same rate as everyone else. No idea where you got that idea from.
Secondly, I’ve never charged anyone for either uniform or training, as I said earlier.
And as it is indeed a public forum, so yes I am fair and honest. I’m clear what the job is when people join us, we run legal 99.9% of the time, I’m fair with my customers. And yes, I am proud of my little firm. A lot of haulage firms fail, by some miracle mine hasn’t and it supports 25 staff, not bad for a mere forkie.
albion:
We have a clause to repay training costs and it’s never been enforced. Where it would be is if someone came to us in and decided to leave more or less after training - I’m not here to help them get another job.
albion:
Actually a lot of sectors do. I spend time on an employment forum and a regular question is, do I have to pay back training costs and the answer is yes if you signed a contract with a repayment clause in it.
If you don’t have a contract, then no, you won’t be paying.
If you don’t like the clause, then don’t sign it and take a different job.
In fairness - Albion isn’t claiming she docks people for their PPE, she is just saying if she puts you through ADR and you leave the next day she has it in her contract to claim it back. But she has never done so. I’d personally accept those terms (as long as the ADR course wasn’t at a stupidly inflated price). But what I wouldn’t is accept paying for a high viz which I neither want nor need.
Not that it makes any difference - Albion has said in the past she’d rather pack in than employ me. So I won’t be in that position . But I do think she is getting some stick unfairly. The jury is out on Neil - my suspicions are that he is a penny pincher than wants to pay primark prices and get Saville Row goods, but I am occasionally wrong!
I am occasionally wrong…quick let me get that for my siggy
Look Sammy, you’d love me and leave me, two trips to France, one to Italy, one to Sweden and then you’d want to go back to your PhD. You know I’m in for the long haul
I think there’s two types of training involved. One is an established driver who the firm wants to haul say hazardous material so they pay for his training like they would for PPE he needs as it benefits the firm. Two is a bloke who decides he wants to drive a big rig but doesn’t have a licence. He can go to a HGV training school and pay for one himself or get a job with one of the many big haulage firms that have there own school. Usually if he leaves withing a year he has to pay a portion of the training depending on how long he’s worked there but if he stays a year they figure they’ve had a years work out of him and all’s even.
I think this is a good option for someone new to the haulage industry as they already have a job even if it turns out to be crap, after a year they’ve got a HGV licence, free training and a years experience and there’s also the possibility that it’s a decent firm and the driver stays for a few years.
remy:
I think there’s two types of training involved. One is an established driver who the firm wants to haul say hazardous material so they pay for his training like they would for PPE he needs as it benefits the firm. Two is a bloke who decides he wants to drive a big rig but doesn’t have a licence. He can go to a HGV training school and pay for one himself or get a job with one of the many big haulage firms that have there own school. Usually if he leaves withing a year he has to pay a portion of the training depending on how long he’s worked there but if he stays a year they figure they’ve had a years work out of him and all’s even.
I think this is a good option for someone new to the haulage industry as they already have a job even if it turns out to be crap, after a year they’ve got a HGV licence, free training and a years experience and there’s also the possibility that it’s a decent firm and the driver stays for a few years.
Yes, you are right about the two types of training.
But in this situation only the option where driver has paid for his licence and then go to work for someone and is fraudulently requested to pay for uniform, induction and on the job training, for example in this case food - non-ADR tankers.
Come with your licence.
Go work - train, maybe with other driver etc 2 weeks or so for lower rate.
Then sign papers and if you leave before XXXX pay 1000 to us for “training” you.
In North America you get sign on bonus and 100USD day for training as minimum when you go out with driver.
In UK - come work with us and then pay us for “training” you.
Some companies in UK claim induction as training and demand drivers to pay for induction if they leave before 1 year.
In North America if company treats driver badly there are proper internet forums and there are very heavy response from youtube truckers etc as some over there know from what has happened when some companies leave dead drivers in their cabs etc… how they get smashed online and how drivers leave them and don’t work for them.
In UK when dead drivers body is left in Italy or wherever that was superbuttereatinghomotrucker comes on trucknet claiming that well maybe company is not entirely at fault etc and general response is not harsh at all pretty much 50/50 if not in favor of company.
When british trucking community will get some balls only then something might change.
As long as there will be such censorship and protection towards companies in UK nothing will get better. It’s easier for british trucker to blame immigration for all his problems than understand that his boss is a complete rat.
