A sea change, is this the end for the curtainsider?

Or maybe something like this…

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Unitised loads or something it used to be called.

fredthered:
Or maybe something like this…

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Unitised loads or something it used to be called.

Oooo yes…maybe I should get my license renewed :slight_smile:

These bags were going nowhere, 24 pallets in a 24 pallet trailer, 24 tonnes.
Sideboards up, timbers in and shrink wrapped bags.
You can see from the headboard and the roof struts, it was a sturdy old trailer.
He tipped them all from this side, too, bless him. :slight_smile:

ibson:
I think maybe side boards may be the way forward,(maybe backward) with proper eyes to strap down to.

This lot didn’t move a millimetre all the way from Padova to Oxford.
There’s barely 4 tonnes on there,any straps would have to have been so slack as to be of little use,
they are shop display fridge units.
I don’t suppose either would pass the VOSA test these days.

Regards,
Nick.

Cant really see the problem with a curtain siders personally, the only thing that i believe should be fitted as standard is load bearing curtains (just in case) and proper anchor points every inch or two like you see on ferry trailers.

ncooper:
This lot didn’t move a millimetre all the way from Padova to Oxford.
There’s barely 4 tonnes on there,any straps would have to have been so slack as to be of little use,
they are shop display fridge units.
I don’t suppose either would pass the VOSA test these days.

Regards,
Nick.

Bellgate…now thats something I never thought I’d see again. Good pics btw.

The way i see this is that we will need Armour plated Mirror arms just incase the Truck falls on them…

Bring back the SPD vans, it’s the way forward!

ncooper:
These bags were going nowhere, 24 pallets in a 24 pallet trailer, 24 tonnes.
Sideboards up, timbers in and shrink wrapped bags.
You can see from the headboard and the roof struts, it was a sturdy old trailer.
He tipped them all from this side, too, bless him. :slight_smile:
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ibson:
I think maybe side boards may be the way forward,(maybe backward) with proper eyes to strap down to.

This lot didn’t move a millimetre all the way from Padova to Oxford.
There’s barely 4 tonnes on there,any straps would have to have been so slack as to be of little use,
they are shop display fridge units.
I don’t suppose either would pass the VOSA test these days.

Regards,
Nick.

Fridge Units from Arneg SPA :stuck_out_tongue:

Deepinvet:
The way i see this is that we will need Armour plated Mirror arms just incase the Truck falls on them…

^^ This

You can only do so much ‘just in case’, it’s getting bloody rediculous.

For half of the stuff they’re telling us to strap now to move, it’s already too late anyway.

I’m not convinced with structural / load bearing curtains.
Say you got something like paper reels stood on end, or heavy fabricated assemblies.

If they gonna fall over inside, I think I’d prefer them to fall on the curtain, which it rips through then lands on the road, rather than they fall on the curtain, which doesn’t rip through and the whole trailer goes over.

muckles:
http://www.donbur.co.uk/gb/assets/documents/securing_cargo_EN_12640_12641_12642.shtml

EN 12642:2006 L & XL: Securing of cargo on road vehicles - Body structure of commercial vehicles - Minimum requirements

The document specifies the minimum requirements and test methods for the body structure, e. g. side walls, end walls on commercial vehicles and trailers with a maximum total mass over 3,5 t.

The Standard allows for two types of trailer structure: L and XL. For the L-type, the curtain should not see any loading. A trailer designed and tested to the XL-type can utilise the curtain to provide a degree of load containment. The strength of the structure is proved by calculation, static testing and dynamic (driving) testing.

"Unless they are purposely designed according to EN12642-XL, the curtains of curtain-sided vehicles MUST NOT be considered as part of any load restraint system. If the curtains have been designed as a restraint system, the load capability should be clearly marked on the vehicle — if no mark can be seen, then it should be assumed that the curtain has NO load-bearing function.

Similarly, where vertical inner curtains are fitted and they are not purposely designed for a specific load, they also MUST NOT be considered as part of the load restraining system. Curtains and vertical inner curtains should be considered purely as a means of containing within the vehicle any small, loose items that may have become dislodged during the journey."

The answer seems to be load bearing curtains, marked up as such.

I don’t think so, not according to the rest of what DonBur posted, and if you read it properley. I think its along the lines of…Restraint system = a containment solution (which them EN curtains provide) and a load securing solution (which they don’t provide). Which begs the question someone has just asked…are curtainsiders defunct !!! And also, do box trailers have certified load restraint/containment/securing certification ? Do all box trailers come with means to secure cargo within them ? Do Tescos strap their cages down to the floor or do they just rely on side webbing straps to contain forward and rear movement? :smiley: If Tescos can safley secure wheeled pallets every three rows with a strap across the width of the trailer then sureley that must be good enough for the rest of us with them sitting on the floor without wheels?

Wheel Nut:
Fridge Units from Arneg SPA :stuck_out_tongue:

I guess so, though I would never have remembered the name. :open_mouth:
How did you??
They worked into their lunch break to get them packed and loaded,
bless 'em.
As we left, so did they.

Regards,
Nick

waynedl:

Deepinvet:
The way i see this is that we will need Armour plated Mirror arms just incase the Truck falls on them…

^^ This

You can only do so much ‘just in case’, it’s getting bloody rediculous.

For half of the stuff they’re telling us to strap now to move, it’s already too late anyway.

^^This^^ 100%

Its got nothing to do with load safety. Incidents of loads coming off and all these worst case scenario photos are very few and far between. In my opinion, its all about self justification for Vosa and H&S twits who need to invent more rules in order to keep their jobs as we’ve already all jumped through hoops to satisfy yesterdays nonsense and unless they think of new things, they might as well be made redundant. The more legal we run today, the more rules they’ll need to invent for tomorrow, its a vicious circle.

Any system will still have to take into account how to load and unload materials and the fork lift truck is still the most efficient and practical, for many reasons, way of doing this. So any new system that still wants to retain the quickly loaded/unloaded advantage the Tautliner has over any other trailer will have to look at a way of having a standardised system for example that maybe uses unit bases of pallet size that can be secured to the trailer floor as has been suggested in a similar way to twistlocks or locking teeth/jaws.
These units would also have to be made in such a way that loads of different size and shape can be put into/onto them by joining unit bases together either in length or width (possibly a large dovetail joint principle) the bases could have lashing points, one to each corner and made from modern high strength plastics that can be easily manufactured. The Tautliner is an excellent mode of carrying goods, not too heavy, easily and quickly opened and closed and protects from the weather, we don’t really want to go away from this. The answer is in holding still whatever is put into it and the manufacturers along with bodies like VOSA and the Road Haulage Industry need to get together and come up with 21st Century technology to achieve this, it would be good if Britain could lead the way here! Franky.

ncooper:

Wheel Nut:
Fridge Units from Arneg SPA :stuck_out_tongue:

I guess so, though I would never have remembered the name. :open_mouth:
How did you??
They worked into their lunch break to get them packed and loaded,
bless 'em.
As we left, so did they.

Regards,
Nick

iirc, they gave you a carton of wine with your free lunch while they loaded us :stuck_out_tongue:

I have a simple solution to this load securing malarkey.

Every lorry must carry 26 of these and place them on top of the load between the roof :stuck_out_tongue:

If it happens that you turn your lorry over, you can recover yourself :laughing:

PATENT Pending :wink:

Wheel Nut:
I have a simple solution to this load securing malarkey.

Every lorry must carry 26 of these and place them on top of the load between the roof :stuck_out_tongue:

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If it happens that you turn your lorry over, you can recover yourself :laughing:

PATENT Pending :wink:

Is that what you put the wine in?

Mike-C:

Wheel Nut:
I have a simple solution to this load securing malarkey.

Every lorry must carry 26 of these and place them on top of the load between the roof :stuck_out_tongue:

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If it happens that you turn your lorry over, you can recover yourself :laughing:

PATENT Pending :wink:

Is that what you put the wine in?

If you mean my wine, no I use a glass, if you mean a flexitank, no again.

That is a recovery air bag that the breakdown lads use when you fall over.

tesco using webbin of straps to secure the cages…ha

try half a trailer with 2 straps. Complain about it and all thats said is aye well have a word with warehouse

nothing was ever done

Wheel Nut:
I have a simple solution to this load securing malarkey.

Every lorry must carry 26 of these and place them on top of the load between the roof :stuck_out_tongue:

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If it happens that you turn your lorry over, you can recover yourself :laughing:

PATENT Pending :wink:

Oooohhhhh, I got me a set of those :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: