When I started tramping in my early twenties my analysis sheets read like war and peace! I had no stopwatch and had used a wrist watch to try and time everything for the first few weeks until I bought a “Davy timer”. I was pulled over and produced my dubious tachos and nothing ever said. It was all silly mistakes caused by crappy timing on my part and still getting the knack of tramping, not running bent. Dare say it’s a bit more clear cut these days but geez, few mins here and there in a blue moon is not the thing to be losing sleep over. You’re not going to go to hell for that, and you’re not going to suddenly turn into a child killer for going over by 3 mins. Some drivers are so ■■■■ poor that after 1 hour they’re more dangerous than a better driver after 9 hours 3 min.
Rentadent:
tachograph:
No you probably won’t be covered unless it was a genuine emergency that could not have been foreseen.When you say you had to move “due to emergency access” it sounds like you was blocking a gate or entrance, was that the case ?
Of course he’ll be covered, stop making it sound like he’s committed the crime of the century, he had to interrupt his rest to move his truck, it doesn’t matter if it was a ‘real’ emergency or not, he was in the way and needed to move, it took a few seconds and zero miles for Gods sake! Do a printout and write on the back, job done, everybody happy, and when the analysis comes back with an infringement I’d be writing on that before signing it too.
Depends what you mean by “covered”, he’ll almost certainly get an infringement and if stopped could be fined regardless of any printouts, I’m not saying he would be fined, I would be surprised if he was but he certainly could be if the examiner didn’t like the drivers attitude.
Roymondo:
On the newer type digi tachos, if you move the vehicle a short distance while on Break, and then immediately put it back onto Break (while the symbol on the display is still flashing) no interruption to your Break (or, as in the OP’s case, Rest) will be recorded. Worth having a quick look at a 24h Driver Print (or Display) to see what the tacho has actually recorded.
Was just about to post the same. Because the newer tachos look at “sandwiches” of 3 one minute blocks at a time when recording an individual minute’s mode, if the majority of the minute before and after the minute you moved is being recorded as on rest then the minute where you moved will be recorded as rest. That is the reason that when you turn the ignition on and press the button to check how much rest you have it seems to take an age to bring up the information.
tachograph:
Depends what you mean by “covered”, he’ll almost certainly get an infringement and if stopped could be fined regardless of any printouts, I’m not saying he would be fined, I would be surprised if he was but he certainly could be if the examiner didn’t like the drivers attitude.
Well … unless things have changed whilst I was on holiday - DVSA can only issue a fixed penalty (fine) for a current offence. So if this was detected during the following shift they cannot issues a penalty. Of course if there are other offences they could prosecute the driver for the collective offences. Or alternatively they could decide to investigate said driver/company further and cause all sorts of problems.
However this doesn’t seem to stop some DVSA officers issuing fixed penalties when legally they shouldn’t … and drivers pay them meaning DVSA win.
There are plans for DVSA to be able to issue penalties for any offence committed in the previous 29 days but as far as I am aware this hasn’t happened yet.
Either way - I don’t believe the driver should have done what he did as it almost certainly wasn’t an emergency - but I also agree that he won’t have any problems with what he did do.
tachograph:
Rentadent:
tachograph:
No you probably won’t be covered unless it was a genuine emergency that could not have been foreseen.When you say you had to move “due to emergency access” it sounds like you was blocking a gate or entrance, was that the case ?
Of course he’ll be covered, stop making it sound like he’s committed the crime of the century, he had to interrupt his rest to move his truck, it doesn’t matter if it was a ‘real’ emergency or not, he was in the way and needed to move, it took a few seconds and zero miles for Gods sake! Do a printout and write on the back, job done, everybody happy, and when the analysis comes back with an infringement I’d be writing on that before signing it too.
Depends what you mean by “covered”, he’ll almost certainly get an infringement and if stopped could be fined regardless of any printouts, I’m not saying he would be fined, I would be surprised if he was but he certainly could be if the examiner didn’t like the drivers attitude.
He probably will get an infringement because the analysis company won’t have a copy of his printout, but he WON’T be fined by anybody, he has a printout and a genuine reason for moving the vehicle, there is clearly no financial benefit and no missing mileage, just an unfortunate incident that meant he had to interrupt his rest for a couple of minutes.
If he gets fined then I’ll give him the money myself, and I’ll give you an equivalent amount, now please stop over exagerating a non-event.