I can only speak for Landrovers (Defenders), but the ones with commercial tax rate (like mine) ARE limited to 50 on a sc, 60 on a dual. Currently this applies to all Defender derivatives, irrespective of body style, including station wagons. This is because they are classed as commercial vehicles, not dual-purpose. To confuse matters more, they ARE classed as dual-purpose when towing a trailer and so exempt from O-licensing…
The OP referred to standard pick ups.
Generally there are two types, one is single cabbed and classed as a commercial vehicle.
The other is twin cabbed amd so long as it has 4WD is classed as dual purpose vehicle.
For this subject taxation class doesn’t matter a jot.
Here’s some links as i can’t believe this is still going on…look for Dual Purpose Vehicle…
dcsafetycameras.org/educatio … index.aspx
drummerkev:
Ok,Excuse my ignorance but 4 pint cans later I am still a little confused by this…
we use a crew cab transit which i use for the band i play in… so whats regs is this particular vehicle meant to obide by? motorwa, SC and DC?
And just to clear my confusion a typical white van transit, sprinter etc what are the limits for these vans presuming there are all plated at 3500kg?
Cheers
Kev
I can answer the latter as I drive a 3.5T Transit Luton for work. The only limit different is 50mph in National Speed Limit zones, other areas are the same as cars. I would imagine Minibuses are as well as they’ll be under Class 7.
repton:
mrpj:
repton:
My understanding was that all commercial vehicles over 2000kg MGW were limited to 50mph except “car derived vans”.AIUI it’s all commercial vehicles including car derived.
This link:
direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTr … eed_limits
suggests we’re both wrong. All goods vehicles are subject to the 50mph limit except for car derived vans under 2000kg MGW.
Paul
see my post a few up from here.
fta.co.uk/policy_and_complia … imits.html
jayeastanglia:
see my post a few up from here.
fta.co.uk/policy_and_complia … imits.html
Interesting
According to that
“Agricultural motor vehicles N/A 40 40” 
repton:
Dave the Renegade:
Under construction and use regulations.Only vans without side windows in the back are restricted to 50mph on single carriageways.I’ve just tried to find that in the C&U regs and failed. Have you got a link to it?
My understanding was that all commercial vehicles over 2000kg MGW were limited to 50mph except “car derived vans”. Are you suggesting that if I get a 3500kg MGW XLWB sprinter and put some windows in the sides I can legally do 60mph instead of 50?
Paul
You are right Paul.
What is a “car derived van”?
Under the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984, a “car derived van” is defined as:- “A goods vehicle which is constructed or adapted as a derivative of a passenger vehicle and which has a maximum laden weight not exceeding 2 tonnes.”
The important word in this definition is “and” as there are goods vehicles that look as if they are based on a passenger vehicle, but when the manufacturer puts a gross laden weight on the goods vehicle, which is the design weight of the vehicle plus the maximum load that it is designed to carry, and this exceeds 2 tonnes, that vehicle is no longer a car derived van. The van becomes an ordinary goods vehicle under 7.5 tonnes gross weight, and is therefore subject to the speed limits as shown in the Highway Code.
As a “rule of thumb” any van larger than a Vauxhall Astravan will have a gross weight in excess of 2 tonnes and is therefore subject to the reduced “class of vehicle” speed limits. Ford Transit, Mercedes Sprinter, Mercedes Vito, Peugeot Expert and Ford Connect, for example, are restricted vans.
It is immaterial that a goods vehicle may be unladen at the time it is detected exceeding the speed limit. The construction of the vehicle that enables it to be used up to the 7.5 tonnes maximum weight is the relevant criteria.
My sprinter is just under 2 ton with me in it.