Stanny_1985:
Well it was worth the call 3 point and £100 fine reduced to a course now i m happy
Good, happy for you mate… 
Now don’t do it again!!!
Evil8Beezle:
Stanny_1985:
Well it was worth the call 3 point and £100 fine reduced to a course now i m happyGood, happy for you mate…
Now don’t do it again!!!
Oh don’t you worry about that I won’t be. In my defence I did nt think I was breaking the law this is what I explained to the lady on the phone that I feel people like me should just be better educated in the exact meanings of the law not punished with points
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As any solicitor will tell you mate, ignorance is not a defence! 
Evil8Beezle:
As any solicitor will tell you mate, ignorance is not a defence!
Totally agree which ever way you cut it I broke the law and am bang to rights my argument was never one of being guilty or not guilty that was never in question the fine was also ok with me it was the 3 points instead of the educational course that I was annoyed about some people I believe can be educated and learn from there mistakes I thought I was following the law it was a minor part of the law I had not followed correctly ie. The way in which I had answered the call it wasn’t that I had simply stuck two fingers up and was driving down the road with it stuck to my head
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This affects me in a strange way, which I am sure some will not believe. I am like my father was, one of those people who has a problem with wristwatches; they don’t like me. The ticky ticky Timex ones very soon start showing the wrong time and eventually pack up. I gave up wearing one many years ago because of it. I tried a battery powered one several years ago, but the same thing happened. The fact that I don’t wear a watch doesn’t cause me a problem lorry driving, but in a bus it is a pain - no tachograph and a timetable to keep to means I need to know the time down to the last minute. So what is the very first thing a mobile phone does when you pick it up? it displays the time - and in a large font too so I don’t need to get out the reading glasses; that’s handy Andy.
cav551:
This affects me in a strange way, which I am sure some will not believe. I am like my father was, one of those people who has a problem with wristwatches; they don’t like me. The ticky ticky Timex ones very soon start showing the wrong time and eventually pack up. I gave up wearing one many years ago because of it. I tried a battery powered one several years ago, but the same thing happened. The fact that I don’t wear a watch doesn’t cause me a problem lorry driving, but in a bus it is a pain - no tachograph and a timetable to keep to means I need to know the time down to the last minute. So what is the very first thing a mobile phone does when you pick it up? it displays the time - and in a large font too so I don’t need to get out the reading glasses; that’s handy Andy.
Not that I’ve driven a bus, but doesn’t it have a time displayed on the dash?
And if you can’t read that without glasses, how do you read the other information on the dash?
No tacho so no clock and I was only making the point that the font on the mobile is large. Sitting about two feet away from this screen I can’t read clearly what I am typing with distance glasses, yet the white writing at the top underneath TNUK reading - UK prof forum sponsored by - is OK. Generally on any dash I can see what I need to see I just can’t read the mileometer clearly.
Fair enough pal, I just assumed that the dash would have a clock…
I also now need reading glasses, so have varifocals.
I can drive without them as I don’t have a licence restriction, but I do struggle to read some of the intruments without them. 
As for you not getting on with watches, could it be that you keep buying cheap watches? 
Fair point about cheap watches, but I haven’t bought any for a long time since you can buy expensive ■■■■ just as easily as cheap ■■■■.
Ah varifocals or bifocals - my optician keep trying to persuade me, but as a fitter sometimes I have to do really close up work in confined spaces and I keep banging the back or top of my head if I try tilting it back to look down my nose at something! So it is generally take three pairs of different strength reading glasses underneath with me. And just like Norman Hunter’s Professor Branestawm another pair for looking for the others with!
About 6 yrs ago, I attended one of these ‘naughty boy courses’ in Winchester… was a bit of a strange situation that led me there.
Anyway, there 24 of us there and 23 of us were there for mobile phones it turns out … all except me. So the bloke in charge goes round and asks everyone what they had done wrong. As he went round the ‘class’ a pattern emerged that was pathetic. There had been an accident on the approach to Winchester town centre one morning rush hour and a stationary traffic jam had occurred. Seems there were very long delays of over 45 minutes. So 6 of the people in the jam had made calls warning appointments they had in town. A blinking copper ON A PUSHBIKE had gone down the line and nicked them all. Of course, me being me, then made comments about the copper being a ■■■■■ and how I bet he had gone in the canteen later that morning and boasted to the TD boys how he had nicked 6 drivers on a bike. I then revealed why I was there and had everyone laughing and for the rest of the class I just took the ■■■■ being objectionable as possible. I was not popular with the guy taking it.
TheBear:
About 6 yrs ago, I attended one of these ‘naughty boy courses’ in Winchester… was a bit of a strange situation that led me there.
Anyway, there 24 of us there and 23 of us were there for mobile phones it turns out … all except me. So the bloke in charge goes round and asks everyone what they had done wrong. As he went round the ‘class’ a pattern emerged that was pathetic. There had been an accident on the approach to Winchester town centre one morning rush hour and a stationary traffic jam had occurred. Seems there were very long delays of over 45 minutes. So 6 of the people in the jam had made calls warning appointments they had in town. A blinking copper ON A PUSHBIKE had gone down the line and nicked them all. Of course, me being me, then made comments about the copper being a ■■■■■ and how I bet he had gone in the canteen later that morning and boasted to the TD boys how he had nicked 6 drivers on a bike. I then revealed why I was there and had everyone laughing and for the rest of the class I just took the ■■■■ being objectionable as possible. I was not popular with the guy taking it.
Ooooooooo I want to no why now lol
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We use a wide load escorts vehicle who supplies u’s with a 2 way radio. He’s a retired copper who specialised in abnormal load escorts as well as royalty escorts etc. I questioned him regarding the use if the radio whilst driving and he reckons as part of an abnormal load movement we are exempt?
Seems odd to me as the principle is the same if not worse as you’re not just holding a device, you’re having to make sure you key up too. What’s the law on cb’'s too?
paulypaul:
We use a wide load escorts vehicle who supplies u’s with a 2 way radio. He’s a retired copper who specialised in abnormal load escorts as well as royalty escorts etc. I questioned him regarding the use if the radio whilst driving and he reckons as part of an abnormal load movement we are exempt?Seems odd to me as the principle is the same if not worse as you’re not just holding a device, you’re having to make sure you key up too. What’s the law on cb’'s too?
I believe two way radios (CBs) are exempt from the legislation covering driving and mobile phones, presumably that’s why they were so blatantly using them on Top Gear! I would imagine you could still get done for ‘due care and attention’ but as far as I understand you can’t get done with the specific hand held mobile phone laws - seems a bit bizarre but the law often is.
My mate got pulled over for this about 5 years ago. He sat there and listened to the waffle “I’m reporting you for the offence of… Blah blah blah”
And when they’d finished. He said “I give you full permission to search this entire vehicle, including the driver”
Cops couldn’t work out what he was on about. So he went a little deeper.
I do not own a mobile phone, I have never used a mobile phone and I have no plans to ever use a mobile phone. Find one in this vehicle, or by any means you have of finding one associated to me, and I’ll accept your findings.
After a bit off waffle, he was sent on his way. Matter dropped.
He didn’t have a phone, not then anyway.
Was working out his wages on a calculator
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