Carryfast:
As I’ve said maybe the eu officials would like to take the idea to it’s logical conclusion by driving a truck for the last 4.5 hours of a 30 hour shift in which at least 24 hours of that shift involved nothing more than playing cards,reading,eating etc etc.
That’s only a logical conclusion in your strange world since 30 hour shifts don’t and never have existed. Not to mention your repeating yourself. Your just going round and round in circles now
You keep banging on about the last 4.5 hours of a fifteen hour shift spent driving. Why would that be wrong? 4.5 hours in a modern lorry is not tiring, although If I was doing a ten hour drive on that day I would possibly split it into 3 x 3h.15m OTA which can be done as the legislation is so very flexible.
24 hour day minus 11 hours rest period, minus 1h 30m break doesn’t sound too difficult even for a lazy council worker.
11h 30 minutes maximum work and that involves some laying on the bunk while you get loaded or listening to more ■■■■■■■■ been spoken in a parcel depot canteen.
Maybe a driver wants to get to a favourite layby, baghouse or restaurant and it takes him 13 hours and 10 minutes from home including a 5 hour ferry crossing, is that dangerous? or are you just too thick to see the rules are there for the drivers too?
At least you managed to get a logical conclusion in the last post, even though you haven’t said anything logical in the last 15 pages.
I must say I’m enjoying this ‘How far can we push Carryfast’ experiment. Normally I’d have given up a good few pages back. I reckon it’ll get locked before Carryslow gives up. Who wants a bet?
It’s gone all quiet, must be into his 12th hour tucked up in his cozy little bed because he’s maxed out and feeling the strain!! Then again he probably wasn’t at work but all this talk about work has had the same effect! U rest up sunshine and we can carry on later!
Longman.
Carryfast:
taffytrucker:
ok then here was my run on Friday night. Bridgend - Newport pick up trailer - tip at tesco Weybridge round to TDG @ northfleet for reload back to Newport change trailers and back to Bridgend to clock off just under 10 hrs drive and a 14 hour night. Going by CF’s plan i would have stuck in Clacket for a 9 hour break rather then back home therefore costing my boss more money!!! Great Plan CFSo that wouldn’t have been closer to a 12 hour night if you’d have been able to run with a 65 mph motorway limit.The fact is mixing multiple drop/collections loading/unloading operations with a 55 mph speed limit just makes the overall day longer than it needs to be.It’s surprising though that drivers seem to be more interested in the costs to the guvnor than their own responsibilities if/when the idea of 12 hour + shifts goes wrong in the form of the fatigue angle.
Which would have still left me short of the yard which means the boss would have had to hire a car so i could take it home at the end of the shift. As it is shift work and not tramping I have no night out kit with me so as I said thats either hire a car or put me up in a hotel for my 9 hr break
What I don’t get is the obsession with the 65 limit. The truck will be burning far more fuel at that speed, and you can only do it on motorways. Weight of traffic will regularly slow you down to less than the 65 and when that happens you will find the slower trucks catching you up. The minute you leave the motorway you lose the speed advantage and the slower trucks again catch you up. Regularly I get overtaken at 50 by vehicles doing 56 and I soon catch up to them in the traffic ahead.
He just wants to be a big fast trucker. If he had his way we’d all bust the gate doin’ 98. Fantasy, that’s all it is. Some days it hard enough getting up to 50.
Carryfast:
kr79:
65 mph at night maybe but what about the day driver who has to contend with the m25 or m6 round Birmingham. That’s where the 15 hour day wins the driver can ever stop and have a break for a bit to let the traffic die down or sit in it your way and lose time.
If running further afield in Europe you may cover a bit more ground on drive only days but will lose it and more due to the French liking a two hour lunch break and our Spanish freinds buggering off for a siesta every afternoon.
And that’s before we get on to having a few collections. Oh I forgot you will sit there waiting for a full load.So in your world everytime there’s a hold up,regardless of how long it is,just park up and sit there on break until it all starts moving again and then add that to the overall day.It would be interesting to see how that logic will work when you get caught in a zb big jam between service areas with a 9-10 hour driving time limit.Whereas having more driving time and the ability to run at higher speeds would be more useful in that case when you eventually get moving again.
The whole issue of 15 hour days is just mainly one of providing the guvnors,with a way of extending the day,to try to compensate for time lost to unproductive multiple loading and unloading operations etc etc,and the fact remains that driving during the last hours of a 15 hour overall day/spread is more of a risk than driving during the last hours of a 12 hour one.
Although the combination of a 65 mph motorway limit and longer permitted driving time and a max 12 hour overall day would be less of a risk and more productive than what we’ve got now,especially for those who are clever enough to only be doing full load direct long distance work.In which case you can bet that such regs would allow a lot more ground to be covered,on those ‘drive only’ days,than just ‘a bit’.
But there’s no logic in having a 9-10 hour driving time limit if you can still be driving during the last hours of a 15 hour shift.
Well no don’t park up every time there is a delay but if the schedule allows it a driver who has started at 5 am could park up between 8 and 9 have a leisurely breakfast and miss the worse of the traffic and still get plenty of driving time in. Your way I will have you sweating watching the clock all morning.
switchlogic:
He just wants to be a big fast trucker. If he had his way we’d all bust the gate doin’ 98. Fantasy, that’s all it is. Some days it hard enough getting up to 50.
Well he wont be doing it in his beloved US of A anytime soon. They have listened to him and reduced the hours, they didn’t really listen though, just paid lip service 
The US Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) has revised the hours-of-service for commercial truck drivers, reducing the maximum number of hours of weekly driving time by 12 hours.
Previously, truck drivers could work up to 82 hours within a seven-day period. The new rule limits a driver’s working week to 70 hours.
The final rule retains the current 11-hour daily driving limit, but truck drivers cannot drive for more than eight hours without taking a break of at least 30 minutes.
As well as this, drivers only need to take a 34 hour rest to wipe the slate clean and he bangs on about safety.
Did anyone hear the sound of lead against leather while driving through Croydon this morning?
